Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle) Forum

[PopTorts13]

12/19 updated to today 1/17

Same here. Decisions to be released this Friday? Hey, a guy can wish.

[smokeylarue]

Still stuck at 12/19 first UR. UPenn you are one of my top choices, don't forsake me!

[cogitoergosum]

I'm attending Penn's information session Friday, and it starts with an "Admission & Financial Aid Q&A." You guys have any questions you want me to ask? No guarantees, but I'll do my best...

[crumpledq]

I'm attending Penn's information session Friday, and it starts with an "Admission & Financial Aid Q&A." You guys have any questions you want me to ask? No guarantees, but I'll do my best...

Ask them what it means if you are stuck on your first UR at 12/19

But for serious, I'd be interested in a) their resources/track record for placing students in AIII clerkships, and b) how competitive their LRAP is for students who pursue government/public interest.

[r6_philly]

I'm attending Penn's information session Friday, and it starts with an "Admission & Financial Aid Q&A." You guys have any questions you want me to ask? No guarantees, but I'll do my best...

Ask them what it means if you are stuck on your first UR at 12/19

But for serious, I'd be interested in a) their resources/track record for placing students in AIII clerkships, and b) how competitive their LRAP is for students who pursue government/public interest.

You guys saw the new detailed employment stats with clerkship breakdowns right? I think clerking is pretty well supported here, but not everyone wants to.

[crumpledq]

I'm attending Penn's information session Friday, and it starts with an "Admission & Financial Aid Q&A." You guys have any questions you want me to ask? No guarantees, but I'll do my best...

Ask them what it means if you are stuck on your first UR at 12/19

But for serious, I'd be interested in a) their resources/track record for placing students in AIII clerkships, and b) how competitive their LRAP is for students who pursue government/public interest.

You guys saw the new detailed employment stats with clerkship breakdowns right? I think clerking is pretty well supported here, but not everyone wants to.

I was thinking more along the lines of what specific resources they offer to students to support them in the application process. My understanding is that Penn does not place as well as its peer schools in federal appellate clerkships, especially outside the 3rd circuit (though I could be wrong about that). NYU's admit materials advertise its relatively new office dedicated to clerkship placements, so I'm wondering what resources Penn has that might be similar. But don't feel obligated to ask, cogito! I should probably just do my own research

[Nelson]

I'm attending Penn's information session Friday, and it starts with an "Admission & Financial Aid Q&A." You guys have any questions you want me to ask? No guarantees, but I'll do my best...

b) how competitive their LRAP is for students who pursue government/public interest.

If you mean competitive among students, it's available to everyone who would qualify based on employment and income. If you meant among Penn's peer schools, Penn's LRAP is comparable to UVA's but less generous than Michigan's, as Mich's is not tied to type of employment. Penn's LRAP has no income cap, so you could theoretically qualify for LRAP even with some kind of six figure PI job (though I can't imagine what that would be) while UVA and Mich have a max income to be eligible.

I just did a big comparison between these and CCN and outside of Michigan (which is unrestricted by type of employment, like HYS) they all seem fairly similar to me.

[r6_philly]

I was thinking more along the lines of what specific resources they offer to students to support them in the application process. My understanding is that Penn does not place as well as its peer schools in federal appellate clerkships, especially outside the 3rd circuit (though I could be wrong about that). NYU's admit materials advertise its relatively new office dedicated to clerkship placements, so I'm wondering what resources Penn has that might be similar. But don't feel obligated to ask, cogito! I should probably just do my own research

Personally, I feel like the best resource for clerkship is a good relationship with certain professors. I don't think one would end up depending on the general resources from the school a whole lot. I am not that far in yet, but that's the sense I get.

[cogitoergosum]

I was wondering how the decrease in LSAT takers might affect this year's admissions at Penn, so I went to LSN and tallied all of the acceptances from last cycle through today's date in 2011, then I did the same thing for this year. The number I came up with as of January 18, 2011 was 92, while the number of admissions for this cycle as of today is 68.

Full Disclosure: There were a lot of acceptances in last year's graph that lacked a decision date. On those I just made my best guess: 175/3.9 = probably didn't have to wait long, so I included it; 165/3.1, complete on Dec 5=probably didn't get accepted until later, so I didn't include it.

Of course, LSN is imperfect, and perhaps some of this is accounted for by people who retroactively fill in their LSN once everything is said and done, but take it for what it's worth... It makes me just a little bit more optimistic that there may still be lots of admissions to come, even more than at this point last year.

[KevinP]

Does anyone know if Penn has ever requested interviews for regular (non-ED and non-waitlisted) applicants?

I was wondering how the decrease in LSAT takers might affect this year's admissions at Penn, so I went to LSN and tallied all of the acceptances from last cycle through today's date in 2011, then I did the same thing for this year. The number I came up with as of January 18, 2011 was 92, while the number of admissions for this cycle as of today is 68.

Full Disclosure: There were a lot of acceptances in last year's graph that lacked a decision date. On those I just made my best guess: 175/3.9 = probably didn't have to wait long, so I included it; 165/3.1, complete on Dec 5=probably didn't get accepted until later, so I didn't include it.

Of course, LSN is imperfect, and perhaps some of this is accounted for by people who retroactively fill in their LSN once everything is said and done, but take it for what it's worth... It makes me just a little bit more optimistic that there may still be lots of admissions to come, even more than at this point last year.

This is welcoming news.

[iamrobk]

I was wondering how the decrease in LSAT takers might affect this year's admissions at Penn, so I went to LSN and tallied all of the acceptances from last cycle through today's date in 2011, then I did the same thing for this year. The number I came up with as of January 18, 2011 was 92, while the number of admissions for this cycle as of today is 68.

Full Disclosure: There were a lot of acceptances in last year's graph that lacked a decision date. On those I just made my best guess: 175/3.9 = probably didn't have to wait long, so I included it; 165/3.1, complete on Dec 5=probably didn't get accepted until later, so I didn't include it.

Of course, LSN is imperfect, and perhaps some of this is accounted for by people who retroactively fill in their LSN once everything is said and done, but take it for what it's worth... It makes me just a little bit more optimistic that there may still be lots of admissions to come, even more than at this point last year.

I'm just going to be an optimist and say that they're planning to cut their class size by ~1/3
Edit: I should say, optimistic for people already in, not so much for people still waiting (sorry!).

[JamMasterJ]

I was wondering how the decrease in LSAT takers might affect this year's admissions at Penn, so I went to LSN and tallied all of the acceptances from last cycle through today's date in 2011, then I did the same thing for this year. The number I came up with as of January 18, 2011 was 92, while the number of admissions for this cycle as of today is 68.

Full Disclosure: There were a lot of acceptances in last year's graph that lacked a decision date. On those I just made my best guess: 175/3.9 = probably didn't have to wait long, so I included it; 165/3.1, complete on Dec 5=probably didn't get accepted until later, so I didn't include it.

Of course, LSN is imperfect, and perhaps some of this is accounted for by people who retroactively fill in their LSN once everything is said and done, but take it for what it's worth... It makes me just a little bit more optimistic that there may still be lots of admissions to come, even more than at this point last year.

Yeah, I agree with your points. I think schools are being intentionally slow in filling out their classes so that they can wait and see what they are actually going to have to work with

[Champion]

Totally shocked! Just got the call today after not hearing anything Wednesday.

[crumpledq]

Totally shocked! Just got the call today after not hearing anything Wednesday.

Congratulations!! When were your URs?

[Champion]

Totally shocked! Just got the call today after not hearing anything Wednesday.

Congratulations!! When were your URs?

10/25 submit, updated 12/21 & 1/10, I even told her that I lost hope after not hearing on Friday.

[spiritniffler189]

Totally shocked! Just got the call today after not hearing anything Wednesday.

Congratulations!! When were your URs?

10/25 submit, updated 12/21 & 1/10, I even told her that I lost hope after not hearing on Friday.

Congrats! I like how they're spicing things up...waiting for Fridays is a drag

[iamrobk]

Totally shocked! Just got the call today after not hearing anything Wednesday.

Congrats!

[phl516]

I just got the call too! Definitely a surprise on a Wednesday. My last UR was 1/12, first one was sometime earlier in January (I think 1/6)

[larsoner]

I'm in as well. Really shocked because my last update was 12/9. Sure I was going to the waitlist at this point.

[driver2012]

Also just got the call. UR for the second time on 12/21. 25-50 GPA, > 75 LSAT. Very shocked and honored! I thought I had been passed over!

[jpal13]

Congrats to you all, please say a little prayer for me

[luxxe]

Congrats, everyone!!

Has anyone who went UR for the first time on 1/12 seen movement since?

[spiritniffler189]

Congrats to you all, please say a little prayer for me

+1

[amc987]

Congrats to all the new admits!! I had my last UR date 1/10 so I'm hoping to hear good news soon. Maybe they're still making calls today?

[erikjc]

Admitted! UR 12/19, 1/10.