Northwestern c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016) Forum

basedvulpes · Post by **basedvulpes** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:36 pm

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Hornet2011 · Post by **Hornet2011** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:52 am

Mullens wrote:
Hornet2011 wrote:Odd couple of questions:

#1 Does anybody know if it puts you at a major disadvantage at NU if I apply in November when the 2015 Oct test scores are out? As I would then have to still interview likely in person and presently I live in North Dakota (at least there are direct flights from Fargo where I live).

#2 I couldn't find any answer online, but do they let you apply as a 1L to Kellogg Business School in the same way Cornell lets you apply to Johnson? Would that be the 4 year MBA track then or the 3, since NU only takes the GMAT for their JD/MBA program?

Thanks
You can apply for the JD/MBA as a 1L but it is very very difficult to transfer into the program from the JD track.

Thanks Mullens (and everybody else for the feedback). If you have any insight, what makes applying as a 1L to the JD/MBA program so challenging? (Assuming I have Kellogg level work experience, which I believe I do. I would apply straight this year but my significant 166 June LSAT underperformance made me focus the last few months on LSAT instead of GMAT prep)

robertloblawslawblog · Post by **robertloblawslawblog** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:53 pm

More interview dates up!

Get 'em while they're hot- https://apply.law.northwestern.edu/interview/oncampus

jewkidontheblock · Post by **jewkidontheblock** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:49 pm

Ugh, missed today's batch of on campus interview dates... This is unnecessarily stressful

alpha kenny body · Post by **alpha kenny body** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:40 am

jewkidontheblock wrote:Ugh, missed today's batch of on campus interview dates...

robertloblawslawblog · Post by **robertloblawslawblog** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:09 am

fips tedora wrote:
jewkidontheblock wrote:Ugh, missed today's batch of on campus interview dates...

For what it's worth (this is far from predictive and I may be misremembering), they were posted for-
9/18-10/2 - 9/15 around noon
10/24 (alumni on-campus interviews) - 9/17 a little before noon
10/9-10/19 - 9/23 around noon

Really though, you just gotta keep refreshing that tab.

James.K.Polk · Post by **James.K.Polk** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:08 am

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urbanist11 · Post by **urbanist11** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:09 am

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Mullens · Post by **Mullens** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:21 pm

Hornet2011 wrote:
Mullens wrote:
Hornet2011 wrote:Odd couple of questions:

#1 Does anybody know if it puts you at a major disadvantage at NU if I apply in November when the 2015 Oct test scores are out? As I would then have to still interview likely in person and presently I live in North Dakota (at least there are direct flights from Fargo where I live).

#2 I couldn't find any answer online, but do they let you apply as a 1L to Kellogg Business School in the same way Cornell lets you apply to Johnson? Would that be the 4 year MBA track then or the 3, since NU only takes the GMAT for their JD/MBA program?

Thanks
You can apply for the JD/MBA as a 1L but it is very very difficult to transfer into the program from the JD track.

Thanks Mullens (and everybody else for the feedback). If you have any insight, what makes applying as a 1L to the JD/MBA program so challenging? (Assuming I have Kellogg level work experience, which I believe I do. I would apply straight this year but my significant 166 June LSAT underperformance made me focus the last few months on LSAT instead of GMAT prep)

You will still have to take the GMAT and do very well on it to have any shot. To give you an idea, only one person in my year at NU was able to transfer into the program even though they aggressively solicited applications and a good number of people applied. Most of those people had Kellogg level work experience.

Alpal29 · Post by **Alpal29** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:51 pm

Checking in! Taking the LSAT in a week and applying ED by the skin of my teeth.

The interviews are killing me though. They have posted them on weekdays in the past haven't they? Tues/wed/thurs are the only days I can do. I'm just stalking the interview schedule like no tomorrow.

Billy Madison · Post by **Billy Madison** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:56 pm

Alpal29 wrote:Checking in! Taking the LSAT in a week and applying ED by the skin of my teeth.

The interviews are killing me though. They have posted them on weekdays in the past haven't they? Tues/wed/thurs are the only days I can do. I'm just stalking the interview schedule like no tomorrow.

Same boat. Decided yesterday that I'll apply RD instead due to my 3.0 GPA. Most others here agree that it'd be a waste to ED if I have no shot/need for the fully? Better to ED elsewhere and use other means to show my enthusiasm for NU?

basedvulpes · Post by **basedvulpes** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:04 pm

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urbanist11 · Post by **urbanist11** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:09 pm

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jewkidontheblock · Post by **jewkidontheblock** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:10 pm

Alpal29 wrote:Checking in! Taking the LSAT in a week and applying ED by the skin of my teeth.

The interviews are killing me though. They have posted them on weekdays in the past haven't they? Tues/wed/thurs are the only days I can do. I'm just stalking the interview schedule like no tomorrow.

+1

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Billy Madison · Post by **Billy Madison** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:16 pm

urbanist11 wrote:
basedvulpes wrote:
gunton224 wrote:
Alpal29 wrote:Checking in! Taking the LSAT in a week and applying ED by the skin of my teeth.

The interviews are killing me though. They have posted them on weekdays in the past haven't they? Tues/wed/thurs are the only days I can do. I'm just stalking the interview schedule like no tomorrow.
Same boat. Decided yesterday that I'll apply RD instead due to my 3.0 GPA. Most others here agree that it'd be a waste to ED if I have no shot/need for the fully? Better to ED elsewhere and use other means to show my enthusiasm for NU?
If you're EDing anywhere Northwestern is the place to do it.
This is probably a better question for people who have applied previously to NU. My hunch is that ED is quite competitive, and that they would extend ED admissions to people they are trying to draw away from other schools (eg near or above 75ths). That's just my guess though, and obviously it can't hurt to apply ED and see what happens.

Exactly what I was thinking.

basedvulpes · Post by **basedvulpes** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:39 pm

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robertloblawslawblog · Post by **robertloblawslawblog** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:44 pm

Alpal29 wrote:Checking in! Taking the LSAT in a week and applying ED by the skin of my teeth.

The interviews are killing me though. They have posted them on weekdays in the past haven't they? Tues/wed/thurs are the only days I can do. I'm just stalking the interview schedule like no tomorrow.

I assume you're talking about on campus interviews? There's no indication they're scheduling for days other than Mondays and Fridays, with the exception of one Saturday.

If you're applying ED, they encourage you to get your app in by November 15 (though the deadline is December 1).

From their website-

Accordingly, in order to make sure your application is complete by the December 1 deadline, it would be in your best interest to submit your application by November 15, 2015 if you are applying through LSAC.

Skype or off campus are probably your best bet, particularly if you're under the gun- just my two cents.

robertloblawslawblog · Post by **robertloblawslawblog** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:54 pm

basedvulpes wrote:
gunton224 wrote:
urbanist11 wrote:
basedvulpes wrote:If you're EDing anywhere Northwestern is the place to do it.
This is probably a better question for people who have applied previously to NU. My hunch is that ED is quite competitive, and that they would extend ED admissions to people they are trying to draw away from other schools (eg near or above 75ths). That's just my guess though, and obviously it can't hurt to apply ED and see what happens.
Exactly what I was thinking.
You guys should take a look at these blog posts:

http://admissionsbythenumbers.blogspot. ... ition.html
http://admissionsblog.law.northwestern. ... -decision/

The TL;DR is that applying to NU makes it 6x more likely that you'll be accepted than simply applying as a regular candidate, and even if you aren't accepted ED you'll be put back into to the RD pool and given another shot. Combined with their guaranteed full scholarship for applicants accepted ED there really isn't a downside to applying if NU is at the top of your list.

I totally agree, which is why I'm likely doing it.

However, I don't know if it's a full ride. It's just a guaranteed highly subsidized ride. 50k a year, flat, which is 8k under annual tuition.

Annual cost hovers around 83k. http://chicagofinancialaid.northwestern ... html#JD115

By my back of the napkin math, it's 83 - 50 = 33. 33 x 3 = 99k of debt, not including interest. It's still substantial debt. Just not soul-crushing 249k debt like you would get at sticker. Correct me if my math is wrong or if I'm missing something.

It's still very attractive. Just want people to realize it's not exactly free.

Billy Madison · Post by **Billy Madison** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:59 pm

robertloblawslawblog wrote:
basedvulpes wrote:
gunton224 wrote:
urbanist11 wrote:
basedvulpes wrote:If you're EDing anywhere Northwestern is the place to do it.
This is probably a better question for people who have applied previously to NU. My hunch is that ED is quite competitive, and that they would extend ED admissions to people they are trying to draw away from other schools (eg near or above 75ths). That's just my guess though, and obviously it can't hurt to apply ED and see what happens.
Exactly what I was thinking.
You guys should take a look at these blog posts:

http://admissionsbythenumbers.blogspot. ... ition.html
http://admissionsblog.law.northwestern. ... -decision/

The TL;DR is that applying to NU makes it 6x more likely that you'll be accepted than simply applying as a regular candidate, and even if you aren't accepted ED you'll be put back into to the RD pool and given another shot. Combined with their guaranteed full scholarship for applicants accepted ED there really isn't a downside to applying if NU is at the top of your list.
I totally agree, which is why I'm likely doing it.

However, I don't know if it's a free ride. It's just a guaranteed highly subsidized ride. 50k a year, flat, which is 8k under annual tuition.

Annual cost hovers around 83k. http://chicagofinancialaid.northwestern ... html#JD115

By my back of the napkin math, it's 83 - 50 = 33. 33 x 3 = 99k of debt, not including interest. It's still substantial debt. Just not soul-crushing 249k debt like you would get at sticker. Correct me if my math is wrong or if I'm missing something.

It's still very attractive. Just want people to realize it's not exactly free.

They can have the 50k, I'm just hoping they'll have room in the Yellow Ribbon Program allocations for me.

Billy Madison · Post by **Billy Madison** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:00 pm

robertloblawslawblog wrote:
Alpal29 wrote:Checking in! Taking the LSAT in a week and applying ED by the skin of my teeth.

The interviews are killing me though. They have posted them on weekdays in the past haven't they? Tues/wed/thurs are the only days I can do. I'm just stalking the interview schedule like no tomorrow.
I assume you're talking about on campus interviews? There's no indication they're scheduling for days other than Mondays and Fridays, with the exception of one Saturday.

If you're applying ED, they encourage you to get your app in by November 15 (though the deadline is December 1).

From their website-
Accordingly, in order to make sure your application is complete by the December 1 deadline, it would be in your best interest to submit your application by November 15, 2015 if you are applying through LSAC.
Skype or off campus are probably your best bet, particularly if you're under the gun- just my two cents.

Any bump for making the trip to Chi for on-campus?

basedvulpes · Post by **basedvulpes** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:02 pm

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