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[WichitaShocker]

Checking in, have most of my apps in, so on to the waiting now.

[schmelling]

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[Toby Ziegler]

I guess this is where I belong now?

You've belonged here for a very long time.

[chuckbass]

The OP of the Columbia thread has no pics of the ~beautiful~ law building I am appalled at the slacking

[xylocarp]

The OP of the Columbia thread has no pics of the ~beautiful~ law building I am appalled at the slacking

truly egregious. it was in that list of world's most beautiful law schools for a reason

[chuckbass]

The OP of the Columbia thread has no pics of the ~beautiful~ law building I am appalled at the slacking

truly egregious. it was in that list of world's most beautiful law schools for a reason

I mean tbh though, while the law school is heinous, I love the statue and I really love Columbia's overall campus and I think it makes up for the ugly monstrosity of a building.

[Rigo]

The OP of the Columbia thread has no pics of the ~beautiful~ law building I am appalled at the slacking

truly egregious. it was in that list of world's most beautiful law schools for a reason

I mean tbh though, while the law school is heinous, I love the statue and I really love Columbia's overall campus and I think it makes up for the ugly monstrosity of a building.

Yes.

[chuckbass]

Nice pic but I'm not sure posting porn is ok on TLS

[KMart]

Nice pic but I'm not sure posting porn is ok on TLS

I had no idea just how beautiful Columbia was.

[dasani13]

Would anyone be down to get together in a chat room some time this weekend to discuss PS and diversity statement ideas/outlines?

[IsThisForReal]

[Rigo]

Hi all. Checking in. I took the LSAT for the first time last weekend, so waiting on scores, but PT's say I will be a super-splitter.

Therefore, I am applying to a huge number of schools. Law school just became a real option at the beginning of the summer and until recently state schools were the only option I had really thought of. Now I'm trying to branch out and since I have just begun research I am applying to T25's w/ starting salary above my state schools and oos safeties, and places where I'd be cool living for 3 years (i.e. coast and southeast).

Is 25 applications just insane? Should I try to cut it down?

See how many fee waivers you can get when you get your score.
You can cut out HYS+B probably to save money.
25 does sound excessive though, but for splitters, I get that applying broadly is necessary.

[Toby Ziegler]

Hi all. Checking in. I took the LSAT for the first time last weekend, so waiting on scores, but PT's say I will be a super-splitter.

Therefore, I am applying to a huge number of schools. Law school just became a real option at the beginning of the summer and until recently state schools were the only option I had really thought of. Now I'm trying to branch out and since I have just begun research I am applying to T25's w/ starting salary above my state schools and oos safeties, and places where I'd be cool living for 3 years (i.e. coast and southeast).

Is 25 applications just insane? Should I try to cut it down?

Wait til you get your score back to decide where to apply.

[Lavitz]

Hi all. Checking in. I took the LSAT for the first time last weekend, so waiting on scores, but PT's say I will be a super-splitter.

Therefore, I am applying to a huge number of schools. Law school just became a real option at the beginning of the summer and until recently state schools were the only option I had really thought of. Now I'm trying to branch out and since I have just begun research I am applying to T25's w/ starting salary above my state schools and oos safeties, and places where I'd be cool living for 3 years (i.e. coast and southeast).

Is 25 applications just insane? Should I try to cut it down?

What do you want to do / where do you want to work?

Your profile says you're from FL, so if you just want any legal job in FL, I guess FSU or UF with $$$ is ok. The only two 2Ls on TLS that I know of with Biglaw SAs in FL are from Chicago and Yale.

Idk what "starting salary" is supposed to mean. Do you understand the bimodal salary distribution for legal jobs? What are these oos safeties? Depending on the school, you'd better be comfortable living there permanently--not just for 3 years--because it may be hard to get back.

Wait til you get your score back to decide where to apply.

And this. 25 seems high. Score will help determine what you should focus on.

[chuckbass]

Hi all. Checking in. I took the LSAT for the first time last weekend, so waiting on scores, but PT's say I will be a super-splitter.

Therefore, I am applying to a huge number of schools. Law school just became a real option at the beginning of the summer and until recently state schools were the only option I had really thought of. Now I'm trying to branch out and since I have just begun research I am applying to T25's w/ starting salary above my state schools and oos safeties, and places where I'd be cool living for 3 years (i.e. coast and southeast).

Is 25 applications just insane? Should I try to cut it down?

25 applications is insane.

Stop focusing on "state schools and oos safeties, and places where I'd be cool living for 3 years" and focus on where you want to be long-term. It makes no sense to apply to a school like UMN if you don't want to end up in Minnesota and aren't using it simply for scholarship negotiations. If you want to end up in SoCal it makes no sense to go to WUSTL, even though they're generous to splitters, over USC or UCLA. This advice is more strictly for schools outside of the T14, where many claim national placement, but few show much of it.

Focusing on starting salaries at "T25's" is meaningless because salaries are bimodal, so you'll either be making six-figures in biglaw or you'll be making a third or a quarter of that in a legal job if you manage to get one. You should be focused on the percentage placed in full-time long-term legal jobs, and the percentage placed in biglaw/fed clerkships if that's something you're shooting for.

ETA: slightly scooped

[Gray]

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[IsThisForReal]

[chuckbass]

I do understand the distribution, but with a avg. starting salary of 65,000 for UF and FSU, I might as well just stay in engineering.

Ding ding ding. If you don't want to be a lawyer, don't go to law school.

[Gray]

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[chuckbass]

FUCK PERSONAL STATEMENTS.

Sorry everyone just needed to vent.

One year from now...

FUCK MEMOS.

Sorry everyone just needed to vent.

[Rigo]

FUCK MEMOS.

Sorry everyone just needed to vent.

The trick is to not go to a school with graded legal writing.
Sorry bout that Scotti.

[Gray]

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[IsThisForReal]

[LawBron James]

Scotti: I do want to go to law school, but I still have to be able to make a living with it and pay off my loans. At most other schools of their caliber I should be able to get $$, but UF isn't really known for throwing out schollys.

Grey: It's bad. Not horrible for engineering at UF, but its low. I only think it's a slight possibility because I have crazy softs. And I don't really think I have a shot, but I'd kill myself if I didn't try.

If you go to UF, you should expect that your first job out of law school will be a government or small law firm job where you very likely won't be looking at more than 60k a year. Obviously you have a shot at BigLaw if you kill it, but it is not the likely outcome.

[chuckbass]

Scotti: I do want to go to law school, but I still have to be able to make a living with it and pay off my loans. At most other schools of their caliber I should be able to get $$, but UF isn't really known for throwing out schollys.

If you're not at a T14, starting at $65k would generally be a good outcome ITE, so I think you may need to readjust your expectations.

Grey: It's bad. Not horrible for engineering at UF, but its low. I only think it's a slight possibility because I have crazy softs. And I don't really think I have a shot, but I'd kill myself if I didn't try.

Do you have crazy softs relative to the average HYS students though? A 2.9 is a 2.9.