http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=276222Whittie wrote:Haven't seen these yet. Could you link?OneHandedEconomist wrote:Given the new t13 employment figures, I'm tempted to say fuck Yale and go somewhere else for free.
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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)
Now let's hope these hold up when we graduate but if they do then mid to low t14 w/$$$ is the right choice period (unless you want to be a prof)OneHandedEconomist wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=276222Whittie wrote:Haven't seen these yet. Could you link?OneHandedEconomist wrote:Given the new t13 employment figures, I'm tempted to say fuck Yale and go somewhere else for free.
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I'm not saying this is a reason Yale is bad. I'm saying it's a reason t13 with $$$ is good.Monday wrote:Yale has never been "the" best under that metric.OneHandedEconomist wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=276222Whittie wrote:Haven't seen these yet. Could you link?OneHandedEconomist wrote:Given the new t13 employment figures, I'm tempted to say fuck Yale and go somewhere else for free.
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I dislike that they exclude all PI jobs from "quality" legal employmentMonday wrote:Yale has never been "the" best under that metric.OneHandedEconomist wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=276222Whittie wrote:Haven't seen these yet. Could you link?OneHandedEconomist wrote:Given the new t13 employment figures, I'm tempted to say fuck Yale and go somewhere else for free.
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The difference in clerkship % is notable. And, as someone who expects a volatile career, a door-opening degree seems like a wise investmentPo$eidon wrote:Now let's hope these hold up when we graduate but if they do then mid to low t14 w/$$$ is the right choice period (unless you want to be a prof)OneHandedEconomist wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=276222Whittie wrote:Haven't seen these yet. Could you link?OneHandedEconomist wrote:Given the new t13 employment figures, I'm tempted to say fuck Yale and go somewhere else for free.
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When looking at the rankings according to just biglaw, not clerkships, I would want to go to the T10 school at the bottom of that list. lols. PI for lyfe
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The point of the post was that there are great opportunities for most t13 grads
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I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?
I did a rough and tumble analysis here:
https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg
With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:
Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.
Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.
https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp
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wow. doing the lord's work tyblessup wrote:I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?
I did a rough and tumble analysis here:
https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg
With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:
Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.
Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.
https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp
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Indeed. Also, apparently there's either lots more oct/nov/dec complete rejects to come, or Jan had particularly low quality applicantspretzeltime wrote:wow. doing the lord's work tyblessup wrote:I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?
I did a rough and tumble analysis here:
https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg
With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:
Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.
Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.
https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp
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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)
This is presumptive admit status right here.blessup wrote:I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?
I did a rough and tumble analysis here:
https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg
With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:
Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.
Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.
https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp
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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)
Bless you.Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?
I did a rough and tumble analysis here:
With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:
Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.
Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.
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There was one person who put their decision date as their complete date (the supposed April complete). Also, I don't trust futureespire's data; Yale's app wasn't even open when they supposedly sent it in, and Yale certainly hasn't been putting out WLs yet.blessup wrote:I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?
I did a rough and tumble analysis here:
https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg
With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:
Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.
Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.
https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp
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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)
The takeaway: ~55% of all non-March-complete applicants on LSN are still pending. That seems way too high to only be applicants who went to FR. Possible hypotheses:blessup wrote:
I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:
https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp
A - A significant number of applicants have not and will not update their LSN profiles (no way of knowing if there a status-specific bias (e.g., people who are rejected may be less likely to update than people accepted? - see, e.g., the 160/3.4 from Dec. 2016 here: https://imgur.com/a/r6BWH))
B - People on LSN are significantly higher quality applicants than the average Yale applicant ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
C - Life is meaningless let chaos reign HAHA
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The credited response is D - All of the above.blessup wrote:The takeaway: ~55% of all non-March-complete applicants on LSN are still pending. That seems way too high to only be applicants who went to FR. Possible hypotheses:blessup wrote:
I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:
https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp
A - A significant number of applicants have not and will not update their LSN profiles (no way of knowing if there a status-specific bias (e.g., people who are rejected may be less likely to update than people accepted? - see, e.g., the 160/3.4 from Dec. 2016 here: https://imgur.com/a/r6BWH))
B - People on LSN are significantly higher quality applicants than the average Yale applicant ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
C - Life is meaningless let chaos reign HAHA
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Your lips to Asha's ears.Pozzo wrote:This is presumptive admit status right here.blessup wrote:I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?
I did a rough and tumble analysis here:
https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg
With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:
Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.
Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.
https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp
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futureespire is for sure full of crapseeprybyrun wrote:There was one person who put their decision date as their complete date (the supposed April complete). Also, I don't trust futureespire's data; Yale's app wasn't even open when they supposedly sent it in, and Yale certainly hasn't been putting out WLs yet.blessup wrote:I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?
I did a rough and tumble analysis here:
https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg
With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:
Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.
Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.
https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp
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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)
I went complete march 16 so my hopes are getting highhhh roooKateMcKitten wrote:As a March complete, this talk is getting my hopes *way* too high. Just ding me, daddy Y.seeprybyrun wrote:I mean, given no further information about the candidate pool, I can only speculate that the usual distro (~9-10% admits) applies to the remaining candidates.HonestlyThough wrote:cool. so maybe like 1 in 10 of us has a shotseeprybyrun wrote:Nobody who has reported going complete in March has reported a decision---ding or otherwise---from Yale. I think Yale is waiting to release those decisions once all FR is finished (presumably to mask which were presumptive admits and/or dinged by Asha).pretzeltime wrote:
I would hope so. I mean, if they haven't, that means Y already knows they're going to reject that person and didn't include them in the ding wave. Which is possible but super shitty
Consequently, I think about 80% of those who went complete in March (none of whom have heard back yet) are already dinged, with another ~5-10% awaiting dings from FR, and the rest being WLs and admits.
Also, I think that those who went complete before March and have not heard back are in the running for admission (probably are FR-10s and FR-11s).((((((
That said, of people who self-reported on LSN in 2014-2015 (which is likely a biased sample, but we're all in that sample anyway, right?) as being complete in March 2015, 25% of them were admitted.
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blessup wrote:The takeaway: ~55% of all non-March-complete applicants on LSN are still pending. That seems way too high to only be applicants who went to FR. Possible hypotheses:blessup wrote:
I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:
https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp
A - A significant number of applicants have not and will not update their LSN profiles (no way of knowing if there a status-specific bias (e.g., people who are rejected may be less likely to update than people accepted? - see, e.g., the 160/3.4 from Dec. 2016 here: https://imgur.com/a/r6BWH))
B - People on LSN are significantly higher quality applicants than the average Yale applicant ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
C - Life is meaningless let chaos reign HAHA
I am of the opinion that A is a real problem w/LSN which causes people to frequently overestimate their chances. It makes sense: those with good news in the form of an acceptance are more likely to share that news than those who might be ashamed or depressed as a result of their rejection. I think this applies to all acceptances and could be significant enough to alter perceptions. In this case it is quite likely altering data.
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Your username is an accurate representation of how I feel while looking at these charts. I love looking at data but hate crunching it.blessup wrote: I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:
https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp
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I don't know what it is but I'm feeling nuclear. Maybe tonight we get absolution.
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