Berkeley 2010 Forum

[JohnYuu]

Does anybody know if they wait to send out ding notifications until after the new year?

[hermione0901]

It is freezing in the Bay Area. Maybe he took a day off.

Seriously. What the fuck? This is California!

i heard it was snowing in the city - c'est vrai? i'll be heading back after work, hopefully it warms up a bit.. i didn't come here from michigan for the snow!

Haha no I don't think it was snowing. Low 40s though.

Oh no, it did actually snow! My boyfriend lives in the area, and he was amazed. If I knew how to post personal pictures, I would post the picture he sent me.

[crackberry]

Oh no, it did actually snow! My boyfriend lives in the area, and he was amazed. If I knew how to post personal pictures, I would post the picture he sent me.

Are you serious?! Where does he live? The last time it snowed around here was like 1995.

[hermione0901]

Oh no, it did actually snow! My boyfriend lives in the area, and he was amazed. If I knew how to post personal pictures, I would post the picture he sent me.

Are you serious?! Where does he live? The last time it snowed around here was like 1995.

He lives in Oakland. They got about an inch and a half, where he lives.

[galahad85]

Oh no, it did actually snow! My boyfriend lives in the area, and he was amazed. If I knew how to post personal pictures, I would post the picture he sent me.

Are you serious?! Where does he live? The last time it snowed around here was like 1995.

He lives in Oakland. They got about an inch and a half, where he lives.

It also snowed where I live (about 45 minutes from the Bay Area). I don't think it's snowed here in nearly 20 years.

[JohnYuu]

Does anybody know if they wait to send out ding notifications until after the new year?

[tintin]

wow! when i lived up in the bay area it snowed once....it was sooo weird. I lived about an hour away from Berkeley at that time.

edit: My 1,000th post......i am officially a nerd.

[cougit]

Oh no, it did actually snow! My boyfriend lives in the area, and he was amazed. If I knew how to post personal pictures, I would post the picture he sent me.

Are you serious?! Where does he live? The last time it snowed around here was like 1995.

He lives in Oakland. They got about an inch and a half, where he lives.

It also snowed where I live (about 45 minutes from the Bay Area). I don't think it's snowed here in nearly 20 years.

if an inch and a half of snow is stopping berkeley from handing out decisions I really don't know what to think. It's currently 12 degrees outside with a windchill temp of -2 and i'm still going to class!

man up bears.

...just kidding. I'm just jealous that low forties and wet snow is considered "freezing."

[tintin]

if an inch and a half of snow is stopping berkeley from handing out decisions I really don't know what to think. It's currently 12 degrees outside with a windchill temp of -2 and i'm still going to class!

man up bears.

...just kidding. I'm just jealous that low forties and wet snow is considered "freezing."

californians can barely drive in the rain (as evidenced to me today). we don't stand a chance against even the slightest bit of snow, trust me...

[MahaloMontana]

Oh no, it did actually snow! My boyfriend lives in the area, and he was amazed. If I knew how to post personal pictures, I would post the picture he sent me.

Are you serious?! Where does he live? The last time it snowed around here was like 1995.

I was walking down the Embarcadero near downtown San Francisco around 1:30pm and had little snowflakes all in my hair. It melted once it hit the ground, but everyone was really excited. I've lived in the Bay Area for 14 years, and this was the first time I've ever seen snow in SF.

[crackberry]

Oh no, it did actually snow! My boyfriend lives in the area, and he was amazed. If I knew how to post personal pictures, I would post the picture he sent me.

Are you serious?! Where does he live? The last time it snowed around here was like 1995.

I was walking down the Embarcadero near downtown San Francisco around 1:30pm and had little snowflakes all in my hair. It melted once it hit the ground, but everyone was really excited. I've lived in the Bay Area for 14 years, and this was the first time I've ever seen snow in SF.

Cue global warming skeptics.

[CardinalRules]

if an inch and a half of snow is stopping berkeley from handing out decisions I really don't know what to think. It's currently 12 degrees outside with a windchill temp of -2 and i'm still going to class!

man up bears.

...just kidding. I'm just jealous that low forties and wet snow is considered "freezing."

californians can barely drive in the rain (as evidenced to me today). we don't stand a chance against even the slightest bit of snow, trust me...

+1. Snow = public emergency around here. I felt like a polar bear today lumbering off to submit my papers.

[CardinalRules]

Earthquakes don't bother us, but snow is truly terrifying.

[danidancer]

Does anybody know if they wait to send out ding notifications until after the new year?

Last year's LSN shows a range of late January->March dates for rejections. So, probably?

[bilbobaggins]

Orly? Link please for one charge being brought against him, anywhere?

Or did you just hear some random comment or read some non-legal journalist hack's opinion about someone saying something about John Yoo and you think you know more than you do?

I like how you correct someone's grammar and then use the word "Orly?" Interesting.

Either way, Yoo didn't do anything illegal, but that doesn't mean he isn't an idiot. All torture is good for is making people confess to crimes they didn't commit. To defend someone's right to engage in a practice that is damaging not only to individuals, but arguably to national security as well, makes someone a grade-A dolt.

A client asks you to write a brief on the legality of something.

You look at the law. You interpret it to the best of your ability with your policy background in mind. You give your answer.

How is what Yoo did any different than this?

[CardinalRules]

I think that we are debating not a legal issue but a moral / ethical issue in this case. We're no longer evaluating him as a professional (lawyer) but as a human being, which is an extremely thorny problem to negotiate. It is possible to be successful in one of those categories and a complete failure in the other category.

[bilbobaggins]

I think that's true and that's fine, but it doesn't speak to his teaching or his abilities as a lawyer.

Also - It's Sub 40 right now on my outdoor thermometer. FML.

[JohnYuu]

I was just doing my best to fit in with the guys.

[CardinalRules]

I think that's true and that's fine, but it doesn't speak to his teaching or his abilities as a lawyer.

Also - It's Sub 40 right now on my outdoor thermometer. FML.

I agree; it's perfectly possible to be an excellent teacher, lawyer, politician, anything else while being a wretched human being. The reverse is also true. Which is why I don't mind that Berkeley has chosen to keep him, nor would I mind if they chose not to keep him. You can make an equally compelling case for both positions.

Today's weather is undermining one of the main reasons why I would go to school in the Bay Area. Thankfully, it's only an anomaly.

[worldtraveler]

Although I love Berkeley, I am really wondering why they picked TODAY to mess with the steam powered heat in campus buildings. My building had no hot water and no heat all day. I lived in Minnesota, and I think it's cold inside.

[Rotor]

Oh no, it did actually snow! My boyfriend lives in the area, and he was amazed. If I knew how to post personal pictures, I would post the picture he sent me.

Are you serious?! Where does he live? The last time it snowed around here was like 1995.

I was walking down the Embarcadero near downtown San Francisco around 1:30pm and had little snowflakes all in my hair. It melted once it hit the ground, but everyone was really excited. I've lived in the Bay Area for 14 years, and this was the first time I've ever seen snow in SF.

Cue global warming skeptics.

John Yoo caused global warming.

[daesonesb]

I'm on the west coast myself, albeit Washington... but our weather isn't that different from the bay area's really. Right now its 26 degrees out, and it's supposed to be 20 tonight. If it were to rain, which is probable this week, it will all come as snow and that shit will stick.

It isn't unusual at all to get cold snaps on the west coast. They can happen anywhere North of Big Sur really. We are on a weird ocean current which makes the coast of Washington and BC warmer than it should be, geographically speaking, and the coast of Central to Northern California colder. Also, summers in the Bay Area can be foggy and rainy. The weather is a bit like Southern England, it does get nice, but it's no guarantee.

But who am I kidding. IF I get into Michigan and not Berkeley, I'll be somewhere with real winter.

[CardinalRules]

I'm on the west coast myself, albeit Washington... but our weather isn't that different from the bay area's really. Right now its 26 degrees out, and it's supposed to be 20 tonight. If it were to rain, which is probable this week, it will all come as snow and that shit will stick.

It isn't unusual at all to get cold snaps on the west coast. They can happen anywhere North of Big Sur really. We are on a weird ocean current which makes the coast of Washington and BC warmer than it should be, geographically speaking, and the coast of Central to Northern California colder. Also, summers in the Bay Area can be foggy and rainy. The weather is a bit like Southern England, it does get nice, but it's no guarantee.

But who am I kidding. IF I get into Michigan and not Berkeley, I'll be somewhere with real winter.

That's not winter. That's WINTERRRRRRRRRRRR.

[LawLucy]

I'm on the west coast myself, albeit Washington... but our weather isn't that different from the bay area's really. Right now its 26 degrees out, and it's supposed to be 20 tonight. If it were to rain, which is probable this week, it will all come as snow and that shit will stick.

It isn't unusual at all to get cold snaps on the west coast. They can happen anywhere North of Big Sur really. We are on a weird ocean current which makes the coast of Washington and BC warmer than it should be, geographically speaking, and the coast of Central to Northern California colder. Also, summers in the Bay Area can be foggy and rainy. The weather is a bit like Southern England, it does get nice, but it's no guarantee.

But who am I kidding. IF I get into Michigan and not Berkeley, I'll be somewhere with real winter.

Who ARE you kidding? I travel to SF every 6 weeks for business...the weather in the Bay area is nearly the polar opposite. Hence the reason the Bay area has such different indigenous trees and hits 75 in October and averages 55-60 through December/January (if not higher).
I live in Seattle and I want to kill myself at times. It is damp, excessively rainy and from October - April it feels as if you are growing mold on your skin.
People are sick more often up here as well.

[violaboy]

Berkeley is totally going to call me today.