Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017) Forum

[admin24]

This question is regarding all Law Schools not just H. Isn't the whole URM has an advantage thing pure racism. I don't mean to spark a fight/debate but this hypocrisy has always bothered me. Can someone please help me understand why it isn't racism? Thanks.

Really? Not the place to discuss this.

Actually I couldn't think of a better place to discuss this.

Do you want our general opinions on the matter? Well a bunch of prospective law students are not going to want to get into a heated discussion(IE not a good place to discuss). Do you want a 0L take on why affirmative action repeatedly passed scotus muster? Well none of us are anywhere near qualified to speak on it yet (IE not the place to discuss).

Why do you think this is the best place to discuss?

Well being that I just apologized for bringing the subject up I am not going to discuss why I think its a good place to discuss. Because that would be discussing it.

[Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash]

This question is regarding all Law Schools not just H. Isn't the whole URM has an advantage thing pure racism. I don't mean to spark a fight/debate but this hypocrisy has always bothered me. Can someone please help me understand why it isn't racism? Thanks.

Really? Not the place to discuss this.

Actually I couldn't think of a better place to discuss this.

Do you want our general opinions on the matter? Well a bunch of prospective law students are not going to want to get into a heated discussion(IE not a good place to discuss). Do you want a 0L take on why affirmative action repeatedly passed scotus muster? Well none of us are anywhere near qualified to speak on it yet (IE not the place to discuss).

Why do you think this is the best place to discuss?

Well being that I just apologized for bringing the subject up I am not going to discuss why I think its a good place to discuss. Because that would be discussing it.

Yeah I was going through my notifications and caught the first comment and didn't see the rest of the Convo until after I posted. I edited my post to remove all of it

[ParisHilton]

Sorry if I missed this earlier in the thread, but does anyone have any idea if they are giving out more interviews this year than normal? It seems like more people than normal with low GPAs and/or LSATs are getting interviews--even people below both medians.

[VapidP]

Sorry if I missed this earlier in the thread, but does anyone have any idea if they are giving out more interviews this year than normal? It seems like more people than normal with low GPAs and/or LSATs are getting interviews--even people below both medians.

So Harvard tries to interview 1200 people every year, but from a friend who goes to HLS, he says that they don't always hit that target.

[CHyde]

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[Pozzo]

Average amount of time between going complete to a JS1? If this already exists somewhere, kindly point me to it plz. I'm just here biting my fingernails while doing zip at work and anxiously checking email.

According to this year's spreadsheet, it's 41 days (meanmedian: 37.5). Hard to know if that's a representative sample.

e: my basic stats terminology sucks, i guess.

[CHyde]

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[VapidP]

Sorry if I missed this earlier in the thread, but does anyone have any idea if they are giving out more interviews this year than normal? It seems like more people than normal with low GPAs and/or LSATs are getting interviews--even people below both medians.

So Harvard tries to interview 1200 people every year, but from a friend who goes to HLS, he says that they don't always hit that target.

I hope that they're giving out more interviews to lower numbers because we've had a lower scoring year. My worst nightmare would be if they shrunk the number of admits to like 700 to either maintain or bump median LSAT to 173.

I don't think they will do that because they risk just getting a tiny class, which I don't think they particularly want. Plus, with lower admit numbers, there is more variance in median scores. If you lose your high scorers to Y/S/Full Rides, you'll much more easily lower your median LSAT.

I think they'll probably just admit more splitters? I'm a splitter though so maybe that's just wishful thinking

[pkalltheway]

Average amount of time between going complete to a JS1? If this already exists somewhere, kindly point me to it plz. I'm just here biting my fingernails while doing zip at work and anxiously checking email.

According to this year's spreadsheet, it's 41 days (mean: 37.5). Hard to know if that's a representative sample.

You da real MVP, Pozzo.

Lol @ me still waiting since October.

Why, Harvard, why?

[Pozzo]

Average amount of time between going complete to a JS1? If this already exists somewhere, kindly point me to it plz. I'm just here biting my fingernails while doing zip at work and anxiously checking email.

According to this year's spreadsheet, it's 41 days (mean: 37.5). Hard to know if that's a representative sample.

You da real MVP, Pozzo.

Lol @ me still waiting since October.

Why, Harvard, why?

From last year, avg was 33, median was 26. Timelines shorten up later in the cycle. Fret not, some people waited 100+ days last year

[CHyde]

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[jjcorvino]

Sorry if I missed this earlier in the thread, but does anyone have any idea if they are giving out more interviews this year than normal? It seems like more people than normal with low GPAs and/or LSATs are getting interviews--even people below both medians.

So Harvard tries to interview 1200 people every year, but from a friend who goes to HLS, he says that they don't always hit that target.

I hope that they're giving out more interviews to lower numbers because we've had a lower scoring year. My worst nightmare would be if they shrunk the number of admits to like 700 to either maintain or bump median LSAT to 173.

I don't think they will do that because they risk just getting a tiny class, which I don't think they particularly want. Plus, with lower admit numbers, there is more variance in median scores. If you lose your high scorers to Y/S/Full Rides, you'll much more easily have your median LSAT.

I think they'll probably just admit more splitters? I'm a splitter though so maybe that's just wishful thinking

It'd be great if someone could explain to me how this splitters thing works. Like, Harvard sees 177/3.3 and a 3.97/165 and they're like...well let's accept them both. They basically equal a 177/3.97? I started the law game journey in large part because I dunno how to math.

You are sort of on the right track. Basically, if they accept both of those applicants then their medians would not be affected. They have added above and below their LSAT and GPA 25/75ths. It is a bit different from averages. On averages, 177 and 180 would be different. For medians, they are exactly the same.

[sittykitty]

Sorry if I missed this earlier in the thread, but does anyone have any idea if they are giving out more interviews this year than normal? It seems like more people than normal with low GPAs and/or LSATs are getting interviews--even people below both medians.

So Harvard tries to interview 1200 people every year, but from a friend who goes to HLS, he says that they don't always hit that target.

I hope that they're giving out more interviews to lower numbers because we've had a lower scoring year. My worst nightmare would be if they shrunk the number of admits to like 700 to either maintain or bump median LSAT to 173.

I don't think they will do that because they risk just getting a tiny class, which I don't think they particularly want. Plus, with lower admit numbers, there is more variance in median scores. If you lose your high scorers to Y/S/Full Rides, you'll much more easily have your median LSAT.

I think they'll probably just admit more splitters? I'm a splitter though so maybe that's just wishful thinking

It'd be great if someone could explain to me how this splitters thing works. Like, Harvard sees 177/3.3 and a 3.97/165 and they're like...well let's accept them both. They basically equal a 177/3.97? I started the law game journey in large part because I dunno how to math.

You are sort of on the right track. Basically, if they accept both of those applicants then their medians would not be affected. They have added above and below their LSAT and GPA 25/75ths. It is a bit different from averages. On averages, 177 and 180 would be different. For medians, they are exactly the same.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they're reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally looking to maintain their 173 median.

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[sittykitty]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they're reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally looking to maintain their 173 172 median.

EVEN BETTER

[addie1412]

Sorry if I missed this earlier in the thread, but does anyone have any idea if they are giving out more interviews this year than normal? It seems like more people than normal with low GPAs and/or LSATs are getting interviews--even people below both medians.

So Harvard tries to interview 1200 people every year, but from a friend who goes to HLS, he says that they don't always hit that target.

I hope that they're giving out more interviews to lower numbers because we've had a lower scoring year. My worst nightmare would be if they shrunk the number of admits to like 700 to either maintain or bump median LSAT to 173.

I don't think they will do that because they risk just getting a tiny class, which I don't think they particularly want. Plus, with lower admit numbers, there is more variance in median scores. If you lose your high scorers to Y/S/Full Rides, you'll much more easily have your median LSAT.

I think they'll probably just admit more splitters? I'm a splitter though so maybe that's just wishful thinking

It'd be great if someone could explain to me how this splitters thing works. Like, Harvard sees 177/3.3 and a 3.97/165 and they're like...well let's accept them both. They basically equal a 177/3.97? I started the law game journey in large part because I dunno how to math.

You are sort of on the right track. Basically, if they accept both of those applicants then their medians would not be affected. They have added above and below their LSAT and GPA 25/75ths. It is a bit different from averages. On averages, 177 and 180 would be different. For medians, they are exactly the same.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they're reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally looking to maintain their 173 median.

+1 but in regards to their 75th

[sonyco]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they're reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally looking to maintain their 173 172 median.

EVEN BETTER

Lol not for splitters.

[dyebri]

How decisive are the JS1 interviews to getting accepted. I had mine yesterday and Im sure my interviwer could tell I was nervous so i dont know how great I did

[VapidP]

How decisive are the JS1 interviews to getting accepted. I had mine yesterday and Im sure my interviwer could tell I was nervous so i dont know how great I did

A friend at HLS told me the JS1 is basically to screen if you're crazy/weird or not. Otherwise, they don't help that much, but it's also hard to truly screw it up.

[sittykitty]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they're reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally looking to maintain their 173 172 median.

EVEN BETTER

Lol not for splitters.

I'm a splitter -- I feel like my chances are better if they prioritize their LSAT median over their GPA median, since there are fewer >172s than >3.86s.

[Pozzo]

How decisive are the JS1 interviews to getting accepted. I had mine yesterday and Im sure my interviwer could tell I was nervous so i dont know how great I did

folk wisdom is ~75% of JS1s get an offer

[sonyco]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they're reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally looking to maintain their 173 172 median.

EVEN BETTER

Lol not for splitters.

I'm a splitter -- I feel like my chances are better if they prioritize their LSAT median over their GPA median, since there are fewer >172s than >3.86s.

So it would be better for them to maintain their 173 rather than 172.

[dyebri]

How decisive are the JS1 interviews to getting accepted. I had mine yesterday and Im sure my interviwer could tell I was nervous so i dont know how great I did

folk wisdom is ~75% of JS1s get an offer

do you have any insight what would make the 25 % not get the offer?

i dont feel too hot after my interview

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