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Why do you want Penn?

Faculty
17
3%
Students
10
2%
Class size
19
4%
Like the location/ Have ties to Philly
74
15%
Cross-Disciplinary Education
57
12%
Clinics
19
4%
Cuz it's T-14/want to leverage $$
126
26%
Ivy League Preftige
167
34%
 
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Re: University of Pennsylvania Law School C/O 2018 Applicants

Post by Alan Grant » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:53 pm

AlwaysPlayTheFox wrote:
Alan Grant wrote:
gentlemanscholar wrote:Toured last weekend during the law school's spring break. I was impressed by the school, but Philly seemed pretty run down. I had a impromptu conversation with a student there (3L) and he said everyone he knows has done really well at OCI. Faculty was really friendly and they gave me a free shirt. If Penn was in a nicer city I think I would definitely go.
Unless there is a significant scholarship differential, you would probably be better off at NYU––it is a great area in a great city and you will likely get a job at a more desirable firm and the options for public interest will be much better (Penn is kind of just a feeder for big law). Look at reviews of the most common firms for each school on Above the Law. Duke would not be a bad choice either; Penn and Duke are peers. P.S. Although Philly is pretty decrepit, the immediate area around the university is relatively nice, so if you don't mind sort of being stuck in a bubble, it is a very good choice--especially if you can get some money.
The notion that you will receive "more desirable" firm jobs is just wrong, and Penn's public interest presence has grown substantially. In terms of public interest - Penn competes with NYU and other peers for the same jobs, plus Penn's repayment program is superior to the one in place at NYU. If you would like the a real perspective on the job prospects of Penn students or want to talk about living in Philly feel free to PM me.
Look at the list of the top big law employers for each school and see what percentage of associates would chose to work there again if they had the choice. (http://abovethelaw.com/schools/universi ... nsylvania/ and http://abovethelaw.com/schools/new-york ... aw-school/). But, as I said, both are fine schools.

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Post by Clemenceau » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:10 pm

Alan Grant wrote: Look at the list of the top big law employers for each school and see what percentage of associates would chose to work there again if they had the choice. (http://abovethelaw.com/schools/universi ... nsylvania/ and http://abovethelaw.com/schools/new-york ... aw-school/). But, as I said, both are fine schools.
Heh?

Using biglaw job satisfaction surveys to differentiate between law schools?

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Re: University of Pennsylvania Law School C/O 2018 Applicants

Post by Alan Grant » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:14 pm

If other things are equal, it seems reasonable to me to pick the school that has the greater share of students going to firms at which they are satisfied. But the main reason I suggested NYU is because he did not like Philly. In the absence of a substantial price differential, it makes sense to go to NYU on that alone. Add in even marginally better outcomes and I think the choice is clear.

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Post by eed333 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:20 pm

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Re: University of Pennsylvania Law School C/O 2018 Applicants

Post by dancr1537 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:10 pm

Denied early today via email. Good luck to everyone else!

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Post by Skool » Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:06 am

As long as you're not trying to send your kids to public school, philly is a dope city.

I could go on and on about how great a city philly is for young people. If you can't be happy here, you won't be happy anywhere.

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Post by skinnerbox » Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:19 am

Waitlisted via email. :roll:

Is Penn not splitter-friendly?

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Post by usn26 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:09 am

skinnerbox wrote:Waitlisted via email. :roll:

Is Penn not splitter-friendly?
Only via ED, IIRC

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Post by fa1493 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:56 pm

waitlisted today. Anyone have any stats on what waitlist movement is like?

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Post by Peck.173 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:11 pm

Waitlisted as well. :( :(

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Post by mekepo » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:06 am

Does everyone's status check say Under Committee Review at some point? Not sure if this is the normal status while waiting for answer.

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Post by fescriptonchild » Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:45 pm

mekepo wrote:Does everyone's status check say Under Committee Review at some point? Not sure if this is the normal status while waiting for answer.
Yup. Or, at least, that's what mine says...

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Post by strugglebus » Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:07 pm

mekepo wrote:Does everyone's status check say Under Committee Review at some point? Not sure if this is the normal status while waiting for answer.
Yep, that's what it says for UR1 and UR2 (which is just a date change).

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Post by ek5dn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:30 am

UR3 today (3/24)!

Decision at the end of the week hopefully?

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Post by keepsmiling1230 » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:52 am

ek5dn wrote:UR3 today (3/24)!

Decision at the end of the week hopefully?
You can make it!!! :D

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Post by ek5dn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:19 pm

I just checked the "What to Expect when You're Expecting" thread, and apparently Penn goes from UR2 to decision....Why did I get a UR3? Anyone else?

Submitted 1/28
Complete 2/11
Did I have a UR1? I can't remember....
UR1 or UR2? 2/20

Maybe I just got UR2 today. Confused

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Post by zhongxiaozhui » Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:21 pm

Complete since 3/12. Not even under review.. Seriously concerned :( :( :( Anyone else in the same boat?

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Post by ek5dn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:52 pm

zhongxiaozhui wrote:Complete since 3/12. Not even under review.. Seriously concerned :( :( :( Anyone else in the same boat?
...it's only been like 12 days since you've gone complete. relaxxxx

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Post by Jessicakes90 » Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:53 pm

Is there *any* likelihood of hearing good things this late in the game? Every thread is talking about pretty much nothing but bloodbaths from here on out...

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Post by Oskosh » Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:58 pm

UR2! About time haha. 3/24

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Post by Indifference » Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:18 pm

Still sitting on 2/9 here.

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Post by Mack.Hambleton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:34 pm

Jessicakes90 wrote:Is there *any* likelihood of hearing good things this late in the game? Every thread is talking about pretty much nothing but bloodbaths from here on out...
last year I was accepted in April but they were out of scholly money

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Post by strugglebus » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:55 pm

ek5dn wrote:I just checked the "What to Expect when You're Expecting" thread, and apparently Penn goes from UR2 to decision....Why did I get a UR3? Anyone else?

Submitted 1/28
Complete 2/11
Did I have a UR1? I can't remember....
UR1 or UR2? 2/20

Maybe I just got UR2 today. Confused
Consensus seems to be that UR3 usually means the first two readers disagreed so you were sent to another reader.

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Post by ek5dn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:02 pm

strugglebus wrote:
ek5dn wrote:I just checked the "What to Expect when You're Expecting" thread, and apparently Penn goes from UR2 to decision....Why did I get a UR3? Anyone else?

Submitted 1/28
Complete 2/11
Did I have a UR1? I can't remember....
UR1 or UR2? 2/20

Maybe I just got UR2 today. Confused
Consensus seems to be that UR3 usually means the first two readers disagreed so you were sent to another reader.
That...is actually great news for me, b/c between 25% and medians for both GPA and LSAT. Thanks!


ETA: So I'm a lazy idiot and didn't write any of the optional essays. I found out about TLS after all my apps were in, so I didn't see the common wisdom that Penn really likes the Why Penn essay.

Considering I'm UR3, is it too late to send one in now? I'd appreciate any and all advice on this. Thank you :)

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Post by strugglebus » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:49 pm

ek5dn wrote:
strugglebus wrote:
ek5dn wrote:I just checked the "What to Expect when You're Expecting" thread, and apparently Penn goes from UR2 to decision....Why did I get a UR3? Anyone else?

Submitted 1/28
Complete 2/11
Did I have a UR1? I can't remember....
UR1 or UR2? 2/20

Maybe I just got UR2 today. Confused
Consensus seems to be that UR3 usually means the first two readers disagreed so you were sent to another reader.
That...is actually great news for me, b/c between 25% and medians for both GPA and LSAT. Thanks!


ETA: So I'm a lazy idiot and didn't write any of the optional essays. I found out about TLS after all my apps were in, so I didn't see the common wisdom that Penn really likes the Why Penn essay.

Considering I'm UR3, is it too late to send one in now? I'd appreciate any and all advice on this. Thank you :)
I'd save it for a LOCI in case you end up needing one. My understanding was that Why Penn was mostly important for YP candidates anyway.

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