Georgetown C/O 2019 Applicants (2015-2016) Forum

[ProductofUnreality]

But ultimately you are agreeing that the work that goes into a GPA is more than the LSAT (4 hours compared to 4 weeks). I just wish the GPA counted for more than it does. Reverse splitters seem to get snubbed a lot, and for those of us who put a lot of effort into our UG degrees, its disappointing.

GPA takes more consistent hard work and more consistent dedication, absolutely.

I don't know which is the more enlightening factor as far as potential ability to succeed in law school goes, but I've been seeing a lot of splitters and reverse splitters end up with similar results. I'm pretty sure it varies school to school which is weighted more favorably.

[OtterLaw]

Well here's hoping we all get in where we want to go, because when it's all said and done, we have all worked hard to get into law school. Acceptances and scholarships all around I say!

[ProductofUnreality]

Well here's hoping we all get in where we want to go, because when it's all said and done, we have all worked hard to get into law school. Acceptances and scholarships all around I say!

Hear, hear!

[bdb90]

But ultimately you are agreeing that the work that goes into a GPA is more than the LSAT (4 hours compared to 4 weeks). I just wish the GPA counted for more than it does. Reverse splitters seem to get snubbed a lot, and for those of us who put a lot of effort into our UG degrees, its disappointing.

GPA takes more consistent hard work and more consistent dedication, absolutely.

I don't know which is the more enlightening factor as far as potential ability to succeed in law school goes, but I've been seeing a lot of splitters and reverse splitters end up with similar results. I'm pretty sure it varies school to school which is weighted more favorably.

Honestly, this cycle has been a hell of a lot more reverse splitter-friendly than splitter-friendly. While it does take more effort to have a high GPA, that is all it really takes. I would be willing to bet money that there are a hell of a lot more people that could get a 3.75+ GPA than could score a 167+ on the LSAT. While splitters may not have had the work ethic previously, they can always improve their work ethic while in law school, and they already have the natural aptitude. On the other hand, most people do hit a ceiling as to how high they can score on the LSAT. In that case, they may have a great track record in terms of work ethic, but they may not have the natural ability to succeed at top ranked law schools where everyone is working equally hard.

[pixalia]

Fellow splitter here (3.3 170) also put on the priority waitlist Doesn't leave me with much hope for Northwestern or Michigan either...

[Bowman13]

What about a 4.0 from a crap UG vs a 3.3 from top rated UG? At least the test puts everyone on a level playing field.

[Leslieknopepawnee]

What about a 4.0 from a crap UG vs a 3.3 from top rated UG? At least the test puts everyone on a level playing field.

And for everyone that can afford private tutors and LSAT courses vs those who can't? I wouldn't say an even playing field. Perhaps "more even," but not even.

[bdb90]

What about a 4.0 from a crap UG vs a 3.3 from top rated UG? At least the test puts everyone on a level playing field.

And for everyone that can afford private tutors and LSAT courses vs those who can't? I wouldn't say an even playing field. Perhaps "more even," but not even.

That is complete bs. I didn't have enough money to hire a tutor or take an LSAT course and still scored a 168, just from studying the test materials. Natural ability and intelligence will always shine through, no matter the situation. On the other hand, attending shitty university and getting a 4.0 proves nothing.

[ProductofUnreality]

What about a 4.0 from a crap UG vs a 3.3 from top rated UG? At least the test puts everyone on a level playing field.

And for everyone that can afford private tutors and LSAT courses vs those who can't? I wouldn't say an even playing field. Perhaps "more even," but not even.

That is complete bs. I didn't have enough money to hire a tutor or take an LSAT course and still scored a 168, just from studying the test materials. Natural ability and intelligence will always shine through, no matter the situation. On the other hand, attending shitty university and getting a 4.0 proves nothing.

Not to mention there are people who hire tutors in UG.

[benwyatt]

Can we chill with the LSAT vs GPA debate? Sure, it sucks that the law school admissions system is not tailored to each of our exact situations, but at the end of the day this conversation is probably the least productive one that ever takes place on this site.

No amount of debate or discussion on our part is going to change it.

[robertwabisabi]

Can we chill with the LSAT vs GPA debate? Sure, it sucks that the law school admissions system is not tailored to each of our exact situations, but at the end of the day this conversation is probably the least productive one that ever takes place on this site.

No amount of debate or discussion on our part is going to change it.

+1

Good luck to everyone who has gotten accepted into GULC. I am still waiting patiently with my fingers crossed.

[beybb]

But ultimately you are agreeing that the work that goes into a GPA is more than the LSAT (4 hours compared to 4 weeks). I just wish the GPA counted for more than it does. Reverse splitters seem to get snubbed a lot, and for those of us who put a lot of effort into our UG degrees, its disappointing.

GPA takes more consistent hard work and more consistent dedication, absolutely.

I don't know which is the more enlightening factor as far as potential ability to succeed in law school goes, but I've been seeing a lot of splitters and reverse splitters end up with similar results. I'm pretty sure it varies school to school which is weighted more favorably.

I'm priority wait listed with a 3.73 GPA and an LSAT of 161. No idea how I even made it through. I've accepted there is no logic to it and that the universe will take care of things. Until then, more wine

[JuliusCaesar]

Not really related to the current discussion, but why are there hundreds of "post removed." on this thread and others?

[Hand]

Not really related to the current discussion, but why are there hundreds of "post removed." on this thread and others?

Because this place is filled with neurotic losers. Welcome to TLS!!

[WatchClosely]

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[cdavis1024]

Not really related to the current discussion, but why are there hundreds of "post removed." on this thread and others?

Some people habitually delete their posts in order to protect the anonymity of their applications.

This makes me paranoid, should I be doing that...?

[ProductofUnreality]

Not really related to the current discussion, but why are there hundreds of "post removed." on this thread and others?

Some people habitually delete their posts in order to protect the anonymity of their applications.

This makes me paranoid, should I be doing that...?

Or you could just not post things that would hurt chances if someone saw them.

But I really doubt any member if an admissions committee is trolling through these forums trying to link user names to applications.

[lolRCscrewyou]

But ultimately you are agreeing that the work that goes into a GPA is more than the LSAT (4 hours compared to 4 weeks). I just wish the GPA counted for more than it does. Reverse splitters seem to get snubbed a lot, and for those of us who put a lot of effort into our UG degrees, its disappointing.

GPA takes more consistent hard work and more consistent dedication, absolutely.

I don't know which is the more enlightening factor as far as potential ability to succeed in law school goes, but I've been seeing a lot of splitters and reverse splitters end up with similar results. I'm pretty sure it varies school to school which is weighted more favorably.

Honestly, this cycle has been a hell of a lot more reverse splitter-friendly than splitter-friendly. While it does take more effort to have a high GPA, that is all it really takes. I would be willing to bet money that there are a hell of a lot more people that could get a 3.75+ GPA than could score a 167+ on the LSAT. While splitters may not have had the work ethic previously, they can always improve their work ethic while in law school, and they already have the natural aptitude. On the other hand, most people do hit a ceiling as to how high they can score on the LSAT. In that case, they may have a great track record in terms of work ethic, but they may not have the natural ability to succeed at top ranked law schools where everyone is working equally hard.

Lol, what b.s. That isn't even remotely true. Having an exceptionally good day during the LSAT doesn't outweigh 4 years of great grades. On the flip side, a bad test taker or an exceptionally bad day during the LSAT isn't worse than 4 years of someone not doing as well as their peers in college.

But hey, I'm not on any admissions team. It is clear that every school has their preferences in an applicant ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[jewkidontheblock]

Anyone get any info about merit $ timeline at ASW? Financial aid session said April which doesn't sound right.

[squirtlesquad14]

Anyone get any info about merit $ timeline at ASW? Financial aid session said April which doesn't sound right.

Merit $ is through admissions, so it didn't really surprise me financial aid folks weren't super knowledgeable about timelines for it as their office has nothing to do with it. Totally forgot to pop into the admissions office to ask them though. If I had to make an educated guess, I would say they were going off of the idea that everyone would know if they are getting an initial merit $ offer by April...but all of the past history shows notifications start going out sometime in February, kind of just a waiting game to see when the first folks here or on LSN start posting they got award letters.

[le_sat]

I was put on the priority wait list a month back. I've been out of school for 3 years. Banking/Tech. Not taking the LSAT again. Really not going to be much new info. I'll do a few LOCI with professional accomplishments along the way.

My questions is around a few successful middle aged Georgetown Law alumni I have in my network. They all want to help, but they're not sure exactly what to do. I might add one more LOR from an alumni at my firm. But as for the others: Should I just direct them to send emails to the admissions office referencing my LSAC number with a paragraph saying "I heard le_sat is on the preferred wait list. I know him in XYZ context. I think he'd be a great addition to the program. Please hit me back with any questions or suggestions on how best to help this guy."

I doubt it'll move the needle much, but I'm thinking 4-6 of those emails cant hurt. Anyone doing anything similar?

[BirdLawExpert]

Anyone get any info about merit $ timeline at ASW? Financial aid session said April which doesn't sound right.

Merit $ is through admissions, so it didn't really surprise me financial aid folks weren't super knowledgeable about timelines for it as their office has nothing to do with it. Totally forgot to pop into the admissions office to ask them though. If I had to make an educated guess, I would say they were going off of the idea that everyone would know if they are getting an initial merit $ offer by April...but all of the past history shows notifications start going out sometime in February, kind of just a waiting game to see when the first folks here or on LSN start posting they got award letters.

Just echoing this. Admissions folks wouldn't commit to specifics when I asked them about it, but they did say that it wouldn't vary too greatly from the timelines seen in previous years.

[OLitch]

I was put on the priority wait list a month back. I've been out of school for 3 years. Banking/Tech. Not taking the LSAT again. Really not going to be much new info. I'll do a few LOCI with professional accomplishments along the way.

My questions is around a few successful middle aged Georgetown Law alumni I have in my network. They all want to help, but they're not sure exactly what to do. I might add one more LOR from an alumni at my firm. But as for the others: Should I just direct them to send emails to the admissions office referencing my LSAC number with a paragraph saying "I heard le_sat is on the preferred wait list. I know him in XYZ context. I think he'd be a great addition to the program. Please hit me back with any questions or suggestions on how best to help this guy."

I doubt it'll move the needle much, but I'm thinking 4-6 of those emails cant hurt. Anyone doing anything similar?

If I were you, I'd ask them to email Dean Cornblatt. Write an LOIC. Show admissions that you are hungry.

[hopefuljumbo23]

I was put on the priority wait list a month back. I've been out of school for 3 years. Banking/Tech. Not taking the LSAT again. Really not going to be much new info. I'll do a few LOCI with professional accomplishments along the way.

My questions is around a few successful middle aged Georgetown Law alumni I have in my network. They all want to help, but they're not sure exactly what to do. I might add one more LOR from an alumni at my firm. But as for the others: Should I just direct them to send emails to the admissions office referencing my LSAC number with a paragraph saying "I heard le_sat is on the preferred wait list. I know him in XYZ context. I think he'd be a great addition to the program. Please hit me back with any questions or suggestions on how best to help this guy."

I doubt it'll move the needle much, but I'm thinking 4-6 of those emails cant hurt. Anyone doing anything similar?

Why does your profile say you are attending HYS? Also, you have a 175 and a 3.8 and they wait listed you?!