I do hope we end up at UCLA together...you are just too much! I feel like we share a brain sometimes...I too have put together this list.finalaspects wrote:According to LSN in the 08/09 cycle, out of 17 people who applied ED, 3 were accepted, 4 were Waitlisted, and the rest were rejected. (This does not include self reported URMs)
Stats of those accepted: [168//3.53] [162//3.74] [169//3.69]
Stats of those Waitlisted: [161//3.41] [167//3.46] [167//3.61] [161//3.92]
Highest LSAT rejected: [167//3.52]
Highest GPA rejected: [162//3.7]
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Quite honestly, I think you have a very good shot with your #'s at [167//3.7]. If I had to gamble I would put my money on you getting accepted.jgulia45 wrote: I do hope we end up at UCLA together...you are just too much! I feel like we share a brain sometimes...I too have put together this list.
For myself, on the other hand [168//3.1] my GPA is too low, and I would say the chances are greater that I do not get accepted. Regardless I'll be root for you! Good luck, and I bet i would come up $$$ making that bet with you. =)
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I like your chances better. It'll be interesting how much UCLA wants to play the numbers game. A 168/3.1 at least pads/maintains the LSAT median. A 167/3.7 (assuming 3.75 or lower) drags down both in a cycle where schools are seeing a surge in applicants.finalaspects wrote:For myself, on the other hand [168//3.1] my GPA is too low, and I would say the chances are greater that I do not get accepted. Regardless I'll be root for you! Good luck, and I bet i would come up $$$ making that bet with you. =)
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Count me in the ED pool as well. Best of luck to us all.jgulia45 wrote:I do hope we end up at UCLA together...you are just too much! I feel like we share a brain sometimes...I too have put together this list.finalaspects wrote:According to LSN in the 08/09 cycle, out of 17 people who applied ED, 3 were accepted, 4 were Waitlisted, and the rest were rejected. (This does not include self reported URMs)
Stats of those accepted: [168//3.53] [162//3.74] [169//3.69]
Stats of those Waitlisted: [161//3.41] [167//3.46] [167//3.61] [161//3.92]
Highest LSAT rejected: [167//3.52]
Highest GPA rejected: [162//3.7]
FYI, those numbers are very incomplete. At the info session last month, we were told 22 ED applicants (IIRC) were admitted last cycle. Total applicants numbered something like 250-275. The very low acceptance rate (approx. half the rate of RD) is surely due to the marginal applicant pool - present company excluded, of course.
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No doubt. 17.64% of those who bothered to sign up for LSN ED got accepted. That is much higher then the 8% that UCLA accepted according to your info session. But it was the only statistics that was available to me. Good Luck!Woozy wrote: Count me in the ED pool as well. Best of luck to us all.
FYI, those numbers are very incomplete. At the info session last month, we were told 22 ED applicants (IIRC) were admitted last cycle. Total applicants numbered something like 250-275. The very low acceptance rate (approx. half the rate of RD) is surely due to the marginal applicant pool - present company excluded, of course.
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Tend to agree - what I learned last cycle/overall is it's not about who has better numbers in combo, it's all about median. That is the main number schools worry about. So 167/3.7 with both under median is not as useable by the school as a 168/3.1 where 168 is the school's median.rondemarino wrote:I like your chances better. It'll be interesting how much UCLA wants to play the numbers game. A 168/3.1 at least pads/maintains the LSAT median. A 167/3.7 (assuming 3.75 or lower) drags down both in a cycle where schools are seeing a surge in applicants.finalaspects wrote:For myself, on the other hand [168//3.1] my GPA is too low, and I would say the chances are greater that I do not get accepted. Regardless I'll be root for you! Good luck, and I bet i would come up $$$ making that bet with you. =)
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I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! RONDEMARINO AND RULESER!!ruleser wrote:Tend to agree - what I learned last cycle/overall is it's not about who has better numbers in combo, it's all about median. That is the main number schools worry about. So 167/3.7 with both under median is not as useable by the school as a 168/3.1 where 168 is the school's median.rondemarino wrote:I like your chances better. It'll be interesting how much UCLA wants to play the numbers game. A 168/3.1 at least pads/maintains the LSAT median. A 167/3.7 (assuming 3.75 or lower) drags down both in a cycle where schools are seeing a surge in applicants.finalaspects wrote:For myself, on the other hand [168//3.1] my GPA is too low, and I would say the chances are greater that I do not get accepted. Regardless I'll be root for you! Good luck, and I bet i would come up $$$ making that bet with you. =)

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i hope so too!! does this logic also apply on the gpa side? i.e. 3.8/163?
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Sadly, no. You need a little extra going for you. There's no constraint on the number of 3.8s out there. However, in any given cycle are only so many 168+s out there because the LSAT is a standardized test. However, I'd guess in via ED though.hellogoodbye1 wrote:i hope so too!! does this logic also apply on the gpa side? i.e. 3.8/163?
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I'm not gonna get in UCLA either way because of my GPA (hopes this isn't actually true)
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If you ED'ed I wouldn't discount your chances.shadowfrost000 wrote:I'm not gonna get in UCLA either way because of my GPA (hopes this isn't actually true)
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Nah, I EDed into the T10, but after really thinking about it, I might really want to go to Cali for non-education related reasons. Too bad I'm way out at Berkeley, a pity.rondemarino wrote:If you ED'ed I wouldn't discount your chances.shadowfrost000 wrote:I'm not gonna get in UCLA either way because of my GPA (hopes this isn't actually true)
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where'd you ED?shadowfrost000 wrote:Nah, I EDed into the T10, but after really thinking about it, I might really want to go to Cali for non-education related reasons. Too bad I'm way out at Berkeley, a pity.rondemarino wrote:If you ED'ed I wouldn't discount your chances.shadowfrost000 wrote:I'm not gonna get in UCLA either way because of my GPA (hopes this isn't actually true)
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yes i did- i assume you did too? good luck to you! i hope ucla is kind to usViP wrote:Numbers twin.hellogoodbye1 wrote:i hope so too!! does this logic also apply on the gpa side? i.e. 3.8/163?
Best of luck! By the way- did you ED?

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thanks for the response! your logic makes sense :/ i'm hoping ed helps.rondemarino wrote:Sadly, no. You need a little extra going for you. There's no constraint on the number of 3.8s out there. However, in any given cycle are only so many 168+s out there because the LSAT is a standardized test. However, I'd guess in via ED though.hellogoodbye1 wrote:i hope so too!! does this logic also apply on the gpa side? i.e. 3.8/163?
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What is the LSAT/GPA above which you'd have to write a "why UCLA" to not get YP'd?
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They basically ask for a why UCLA with that question about what program/group you would contribute to
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Yeah, I'm ED also. I really hope my personal statement shines. A 163 ain't exactly the most attractive thing at UCLAhellogoodbye1 wrote:yes i did- i assume you did too? good luck to you! i hope ucla is kind to usViP wrote:Numbers twin.hellogoodbye1 wrote:i hope so too!! does this logic also apply on the gpa side? i.e. 3.8/163?
Best of luck! By the way- did you ED?

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I guess so... sort of a pre-arranged "why X" essay.calidreamin wrote:They basically ask for a why UCLA with that question about what program/group you would contribute to
How many people here wrote that essay? I think it was the "answer to question 7" optional essay...
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I was reading last year's UCLA thread and I think unless you have a REAL reason why you would add significant value to a program they offer, it just comes off as fluff. Having traveled internationally doesn't make you more qualified to do international law etc. I sort of realized through trying to write it that I am not 100% certain I want to study one area so I didn't want to feel like I was forcing something.ViP wrote:I guess so... sort of a pre-arranged "why X" essay.calidreamin wrote:They basically ask for a why UCLA with that question about what program/group you would contribute to
How many people here wrote that essay? I think it was the "answer to question 7" optional essay...
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Sure, that makes sense.jgulia45 wrote:I was reading last year's UCLA thread and I think unless you have a REAL reason why you would add significant value to a program they offer, it just comes off as fluff. Having traveled internationally doesn't make you more qualified to do international law etc. I sort of realized through trying to write it that I am not 100% certain I want to study one area so I didn't want to feel like I was forcing something.ViP wrote:I guess so... sort of a pre-arranged "why X" essay.calidreamin wrote:They basically ask for a why UCLA with that question about what program/group you would contribute to
How many people here wrote that essay? I think it was the "answer to question 7" optional essay...
I think the structured format of the question ("what program/group would you contribute to" vs. a generic "why x") aims at dissuading applicants from including fluff-like essays. In other words, an applicant can't just BS an answer like "LA is a great town," "UCLA is so great in every way," "I always wanted to attend UCLA Law," etc.
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I wrote one about the international human rights program. I had some some research and project work experience with disability rights in the UK so I spoke about what I can bring to the program from that experience and how the program will aid me in expanding my knowledge and blah blah blahViP wrote:I guess so... sort of a pre-arranged "why X" essay.calidreamin wrote:They basically ask for a why UCLA with that question about what program/group you would contribute to
How many people here wrote that essay? I think it was the "answer to question 7" optional essay...
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