University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants Forum

[AnonymousAlterEgoC]

Texas has a law or regulation that if an OOS gets any institutional scholarship they must be reclassified as an in-state student for tuition purposes (even if it's like 1K), so when you give the vast majority of people any kind of scholarship, nobody is really paying out of state. Because of this, I would highly recommend against doing ED if you're out of state; it's an incentive you're almost guaranteed to receive either way if you're admitted.

Yeah, this is a good point. I should have qualified my recommendation: do ED if you're in-state. See --LinkRemoved--.

But, as a general rule, ignore McAvoy. Pretty sure he lets his cats type some of his posts

[McAvoy]

do u even tls

[AnonymousAlterEgoC]

do u even tls

do u even tls

So original

[Attax]

Maybe they're just less generous to us in-state folk since there are so many of us to choose from whereas they've gotta convince OOSers to come somehow. Also, I didn't apply to Vandy/UCLA so guess I can't really compare them, but compared to WUSTL and UMN, Texas was pretty stingy.

[AnonymousAlterEgoC]

Maybe they're just less generous to us in-state folk since there are so many of us to choose from

If this was true, they'd take more than the required 65% of in-state applicants in order to boost medians. There isn't a rule saying they have to take 35% OOS; there is a rule for 65% IS. This is also supported by the perception that OOSs seem to get more generous offers.

I think a more plausible theory is that they look at overall aid packages in order to determine how many applicants will accept rather than raw scholarship totals. For example, my $ to UMN>UT but UT was simply a better offer. I can see you being upset at getting 100k/full ride at UMN/WUSTL vs. having to pay 20k/year for UT, but I wouldn't spend much time debating that choice.

[LawGirlAtx]

Do any previous admitted/current students that applied in-state ED know when they generally start sending out decisions? My ap has been completed since 9/16 and has been "under review" since then. I know a month isn't that long at all, but it seems like some schools in the T14 (I'm looking at you Duke and UVA) get back freakishly fast.

[McAvoy]

Do any previous admitted/current students that applied in-state ED know when they generally start sending out decisions? My ap has been completed since 9/16 and has been "under review" since then. I know a month isn't that long at all, but it seems like some schools in the T14 (I'm looking at you Duke and UVA) get back freakishly fast.

You applied ED? There is till time to rescind it and go to regular decision -- what are your numbers?

[LawGirlAtx]

Do any previous admitted/current students that applied in-state ED know when they generally start sending out decisions? My ap has been completed since 9/16 and has been "under review" since then. I know a month isn't that long at all, but it seems like some schools in the T14 (I'm looking at you Duke and UVA) get back freakishly fast.

You applied ED? There is till time to rescind it and go to regular decision -- what are your numbers?

I applied ED because I already live in Austin and I want that $10k/yr stipend if I get in. UGCGPA 3.2, due to some issues during my first year, wrote an addendum for that. Since that first year drastic upward trend. 161 LSAT. I'm 28 w/ 10 years' full-time work experience with three of that being a Paralegal. Lots of softs, LORs from attorneys I've worked with/for. My numbers aren't fantastic, but I'm hoping with the upward trend, the fact that I had good reason to suffer academically my first year, and WE in the legal field it should give me some sort of edge. I'm also URM. I'm 1/4th Hispanic, which probably doesn't matter in TX, and card carrying Cherokee.

[McAvoy]

Hmm. Maybe your URM status will bump you in, but with that LSAT I don't know whether they'd have incentive to ED you. You should really try to retake the lsat, as even a small bump could be worth tens of thousands of dollars here.

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[LawGirlAtx]

Hmm. Maybe your URM status will bump you in, but with that LSAT I don't know whether they'd have incentive to ED you. You should really try to retake the lsat, as even a small bump could be worth tens of thousands of dollars here.

I've taken it twice, with only a one point difference. I'm debating taking it a third time, I just don't know if it's worth stressing myself out when I honestly don't know how I could better prepare. Thanks for your feedback!

[Attax]

Maybe they're just less generous to us in-state folk since there are so many of us to choose from

If this was true, they'd take more than the required 65% of in-state applicants in order to boost medians. There isn't a rule saying they have to take 35% OOS; there is a rule for 65% IS. This is also supported by the perception that OOSs seem to get more generous offers.

I think a more plausible theory is that they look at overall aid packages in order to determine how many applicants will accept rather than raw scholarship totals. For example, my $ to UMN>UT but UT was simply a better offer. I can see you being upset at getting 100k/full ride at UMN/WUSTL vs. having to pay 20k/year for UT, but I wouldn't spend much time debating that choice.

I guess I didn't word my argument very well. Since there are less spots for OOS then offering money to the high numbers OOS would game medians more and just get the general in state kids who will come as well, since really they would only need 15% of them for the medians (assuming all OOS was above median). Plus, once you consider how many people from Texas there are going to law school there would statistically be lower medians because they're pulling from a smaller pool so less raw amounts of higher scores. I think median gaming goes along fair with enticing OOS'ers more than IS kids who are likely to come here anyway.

Rereading, that doesn't seem to be as clear as I'd like though. Consider where UT sits relative to the rest of the schools in the state. It is obviously the most superior by a good margin to even SMU and UH. Consider this breakdown and I think you may be inclined to agree (I may be assuming way too much):

In state, below median - no incentive for money because below median
In state, at median - Incentive for some money because they'll either come because it is Texas or run off to SMU/UH on a fully.
In state, above median - Incentive for some money again, but they will either come to Texas because they just really want that UT cult so no need to persuade them or run off to the T14.

OOS, below median - no incentive for money because below median
OOS, at median - Incentive for some money because they're at median and it will help hold
OOS, above median - Incentive for good money because you'll need to convince them to come over other choices and/or T14

[ChemEng1642]

Checking in!

[ilikebaseball]

Maybe they're just less generous to us in-state folk since there are so many of us to choose from whereas they've gotta convince OOSers to come somehow. Also, I didn't apply to Vandy/UCLA so guess I can't really compare them, but compared to WUSTL and UMN, Texas was pretty stingy.

know we have our differences but this is definitely what ive heard as well. ISS, its unusually stingy compared to other schools in its relative position in the rankings. Still wouldnt ED though. The stipend is nice, but you lose your leverage for anything else.

[Tuxedo]

Checking in. Applied late in the cycle last year so I got in a few months earlier this time, and with a little bit of a boosted LSAT.

Lived in Austin for the past seven years. Got an MA in History from UT and have taught it for the past four years, going on a five year teaching career. Looking for a change and hoping that UT helps me do that yet again.

PM me if you have any questions.

ATX Pro-Tip 1: Get a case for you and your buddies when you go to Franklin.

[MtnGinger]

Applied today. Really hate that they don't have the option of attaching a Why Texas statement. I'm out of state but I have real reasons for wanting to be there.

[cannibal ox]

Applied today. Really hate that they don't have the option of attaching a Why Texas statement. I'm out of state but I have real reasons for wanting to be there.

I felt the same way (UT 1L, out of state, had reasons to be in Texas), but they asked a majority (I think) of OOS'ers for a Why UT? essay. As long as your numbers (LSAT mainly) are at median or above, I wouldn't worry about it. If you want to write one, or ask if you can send one to attach to your file, send an email to Monica Ingram, she's the one who requested them last cycle.

[Username123]

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[Dream_weaver32]

Not even an in-state student. Let's hope this means they are about to start moving!

[LawGirlAtx]

It looks like Texas did at least one acceptance, for a high #s URM on LSN.

weird that nobody else heard anything.

Strange. Seems like he has lots of interesting softs, and of course the high numbers/URM factor. I'm happy to see at least one acceptance rolling out. I applied ED since I already live in Austin. *Maybe* this means us EDs will hear something soon

[rebexness]

[LawGirlAtx]

The "What to Expect" thread indicates that you get notification via status checker/phone call from Dean.
My status checker has been at complete for over a month.

Mine says currently being considered, but I'm ED. I'm sure that has to be why.

[Dream_weaver32]

In the small text up top? Or where it said complete?

[PN-G bamakid]

It looks like Texas did at least one acceptance, for a high #s URM on LSN.

weird that nobody else heard anything.

I looked at all the users displayed on the LSN UT graph right now. All of them have statuses that were updated last spring or earlier. For some reason, LSN is displaying info from the 2013-2014 cycle on the 2014-2015 graphs. It had the opposite problem on my account; when I got my first two acceptances from this cycle, it posted them on the graphs for the 2013-2014 cycles at those schools. I figured out how to correct it, though.