Fordham Waiting Room Forum

nygrrrl · Post by **nygrrrl** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:49 pm

tram988 wrote:
motloe wrote:172 4.0 non traditional (bachelor of talmudic law) just got waitlisted. Im bugging out does anyone have any ideas?
jesus..YP.

^^THIS

tram988 · Post by **tram988** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:52 pm

nygrrl you better get in soon!!!! I keep coming here to check lol.

Chelios · Post by **Chelios** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:52 pm

IMO Fordham is really shooting itself in the foot this admission cycle. The school is not exactly fostering good-will by rejecting or waitlisting so many worthy candidates, especially when the school needs their numbers to continue to climb the USN.

I'd love to go to Fordham (Decision Pending), but if people with numbers far above the school's medians are getting shot down---even when they are Talmudic scholars, people at or near its medians don't stand much of a chance. I wonder how they're expecting to fill their class. Will all of these waitlisted 172's stick around long enough to accept a spot off the waitlist, and will they even want to?

motloe · Post by **motloe** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:54 pm

what does flame mean?also i called the admissioms office and spoke to a very nice lady and i asked her if it was yp and she told me that fordham doesnt do that

biv0ns wrote:
motloe wrote:172 4.0 non traditional (bachelor of talmudic law) just got waitlisted. Im bugging out does anyone have any ideas?
If it's not flame, it might be because they don't think he'll go there anyhow

RubyDoomsday · Post by **RubyDoomsday** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:54 pm

motloe wrote:172 4.0 non traditional (bachelor of talmudic law) just got waitlisted. Im bugging out does anyone have any ideas?

YP, but I am sure that still bites

nygrrrl · Post by **nygrrrl** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:57 pm

tram988 wrote:nygrrl you better get in soon!!!! I keep coming here to check lol.

<3, Tram

RubyDoomsday · Post by **RubyDoomsday** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:01 pm

Chelios wrote:IMO Fordham is really shooting itself in the foot this admission cycle. The school is not exactly fostering good-will by rejecting or waitlisting so many worthy candidates, especially when the school needs their numbers to continue to climb the USN.

I'd love to go to Fordham (Decision Pending), but if people with numbers far above the school's medians are getting shot down---even when they are Talmudic scholars, people at or near its medians don't stand much of a chance. I wonder how they're expecting to fill their class. Will all of these waitlisted 172's stick around long enough to accept a spot off the waitlist, and will they even want to?

I really think they are hoping that they can sway some of the already accepted people in with scholarship money.

My guess is they really think they will be getting a ton of stellar applicants later on in the cycle, but I do not see that happening. Those with good numbers are not just waiting around, they are the people getting their apps in early.

I think also the assume the splitters will either get into higher schools or get money from lower schools, I think the WL of all the people in the middle is a bit of a poor idea...I mean, I get not wanting to just reject people this early in the cycle, but to not even re-examine the EA WLers until April? That's silly.

nygrrrl · Post by **nygrrrl** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:02 pm

Chelios wrote:IMO Fordham is really shooting itself in the foot this admission cycle. The school is not exactly fostering good-will by rejecting or waitlisting so many worthy candidates, especially when the school needs their numbers to continue to climb the USN.

I'd love to go to Fordham (Decision Pending), but if people with numbers far above the school's medians are getting shot down---even when they are Talmudic scholars, people at or near its medians don't stand much of a chance. I wonder how they're expecting to fill their class. Will all of these waitlisted 172's stick around long enough to accept a spot off the waitlist, and will they even want to?

Going waaaaaaay out on a limb and guessing, here.... I think that Fordham got hit with a LOT of amazing EA apps, this year. More than previous years? Who knows - but a LOT of them. My GUESS is that they are accepting a few, rejecting a few... and putting most of these highly qualified applicants onto the Wait List, from which they will put together the class of 2010 sometime, this spring. Maybe I'm just the eternal optimist - I dunno.

nygrrrl · Post by **nygrrrl** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:03 pm

RubyDoomsday wrote:but to not even re-examine the EA WLers until April? That's silly.

Oooo - that would be a blow to my happy little theory. I didn't know that. April? Really?

dgb87 · Post by **dgb87** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:08 pm

Who knows, maybe Fordham is one of the few schools that really is taking a more holistic approach to their apps and that is why they waitlisted some of the people with amazing numbers! I don't really understand the 172/4.0 waitlist...just seems weird! Good luck to everyone still waiting!

motloe · Post by **motloe** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:08 pm

RubyDoomsday wrote:
motloe wrote:172 4.0 non traditional (bachelor of talmudic law) just got waitlisted. Im bugging out does anyone have any ideas?
YP, but I am sure that still bites

do you guys have any advice i really wanted to go to fordham with a big scholarship

tram988 · Post by **tram988** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:10 pm

dgb87 wrote:Who knows, maybe Fordham is one of the few schools that really is taking a more holistic approach to their apps and that is why they waitlisted some of the people with amazing numbers! I don't really understand the 172/4.0 waitlist...just seems weird! Good luck to everyone still waiting!

The 172/4.0 surely must be a YP. There is no other explanation unless there was some glaring error in the application. It makes complete sense for Fordham to waitlist this person for the time being.

tram988 · Post by **tram988** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:10 pm

motloe wrote:
RubyDoomsday wrote:
motloe wrote:172 4.0 non traditional (bachelor of talmudic law) just got waitlisted. Im bugging out does anyone have any ideas?
YP, but I am sure that still bites
do you guys have any advice i really wanted to go to fordham with a big scholarship

Absolutely write a LOCI now!

motloe · Post by **motloe** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:13 pm

tram988 wrote:
motloe wrote:
RubyDoomsday wrote:
motloe wrote:172 4.0 non traditional (bachelor of talmudic law) just got waitlisted. Im bugging out does anyone have any ideas?
YP, but I am sure that still bites
do you guys have any advice i really wanted to go to fordham with a big scholarship
Absolutely write a LOCI now!

is there a chance that they will still offer me a scholarship if i did that?

tram988 · Post by **tram988** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:14 pm

Of course! They are testing you....

clem21 · Post by **clem21** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:16 pm

motloe wrote:172 4.0 non traditional (bachelor of talmudic law) just got waitlisted. Im bugging out does anyone have any ideas?

Where did you learn if you don't mind me asking?

motloe · Post by **motloe** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:17 pm

tram988 wrote:Of course! They are testing you....

thanx but do you think its possible that its because of my degree?

tram988 · Post by **tram988** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:18 pm

motloe wrote:
tram988 wrote:Of course! They are testing you....
thanx but do you think its possible that its because of my degree?

No I'm sure they just want to make sure that there is a high probability that you will accept an offer of admission. Send a LOCI.

AlanShore · Post by **AlanShore** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:18 pm

motloe wrote:
tram988 wrote:Of course! They are testing you....
thanx but do you think its possible that its because of my degree?

no. i dont.

fordham did not seem to be in the habit of YPing people last yr (according to LSN). but i'm pretty sure you are a YP! How could you not be? I SURE HOPE YOU ARE. OR ELSE THIS IS BAD NEWS FOR EVERYONE ELSE

motloe · Post by **motloe** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:18 pm

clem21 wrote:
motloe wrote:172 4.0 non traditional (bachelor of talmudic law) just got waitlisted. Im bugging out does anyone have any ideas?
Where did you learn if you don't mind me asking?

yfr how about you

clem21 · Post by **clem21** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:23 pm

motloe wrote:
clem21 wrote:
motloe wrote:172 4.0 non traditional (bachelor of talmudic law) just got waitlisted. Im bugging out does anyone have any ideas?
Where did you learn if you don't mind me asking?
yfr how about you

CC in Miami but I went to regular undergrad afterwards. I've heard law schools are more wary of BTLs lately though I don't really know why. So in addition to an LOCI I'd go in for a visit just to show that you're just as good as a regular undergrad and allay their (possible) fears. Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions...

nygrrrl · Post by **nygrrrl** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:34 pm

clem21 wrote:
motloe wrote:
clem21 wrote:
motloe wrote:172 4.0 non traditional (bachelor of talmudic law) just got waitlisted. Im bugging out does anyone have any ideas?
Where did you learn if you don't mind me asking?
yfr how about you
CC in Miami but I went to regular undergrad afterwards. I've heard law schools are more wary of BTLs lately though I don't really know why. So in addition to an LOCI I'd go in for a visit just to show that you're just as good as a regular undergrad and allay their (possible) fears. Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions...

You know, I think this (going in) is a good suggestion. Motloe, I would PM OperaSoprano on this one - she did some very effective "office visits" during her cycle in order to convince the AdCom that her degree/path was just as strong as any other candidate's. Best of luck!

texaspecial88 · Post by **texaspecial88** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:08 pm

I can't believe tomorrow is the 15th and I still haven't heard back EA. If i wake up only to see a complete on my status, I am going to call and see what is up... Anyone hear any decisions today? For those of you still waiting to hear back EA, are you going to call tomorrow?

nygrrrl · Post by **nygrrrl** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:14 pm

texaspecial88 wrote:I can't believe tomorrow is the 15th and I still haven't heard back EA. If i wake up only to see a complete on my status, I am going to call and see what is up... Anyone hear any decisions today? For those of you still waiting to hear back EA, are you going to call tomorrow?

Hang in there, Texas - fingers crossed for you!!!

goodolgil · Post by **goodolgil** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:15 pm

I dunno, most of the WLs have been splitters, and Fordham has always been kinda rough in them (WL'd a 180 last cycle). The 172 4.0 seems like an anomaly, and may be because of the applicant's non-traditional school. Still, it's a little ridiculous and the 172 should answer any questions they have IMO.

But the wall below 3.4 that's been there so far was also there last year. http://fordham.lawschoolnumbers.com/sta ... Cycle=0910
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