Michigan c/o 2020 applicants (2016-17) Forum

[studyingeveryday]

When is fafsa stuff due? I'm terrified I'm going to miss the deadline

I don't know when it's due, but it's rolling so you should probably fill it out as soon as you can.

Edit: By that I mean I was always under the assumption that you don't want to submit it too late and risk your school running out of money to give you.

They can run out of loan money?! Also, do I have to fill out a separate one for each school I applied to? (I've never done this before so I appreciate the info!!)

I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't run out of loan money! I think that applies more to grants and scholarships. Also, I filled it out for undergrad, where I was always encouraged to fill it out early (like the first few months it came out). It might be different for law school, but I think Berkeley's website, for instance, recommended doing it earlyish as well. Look up Michigan's website to see what they say!

Nope, it's just one form, and you can add each of the schools that you applied to. It doesn't cost anything, and you should add each one just in case you get into any of them, so they'll all have your info ready and you won't have to do anything later on.

[Kangaroo_Court]

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[Stylnator]

was I an idiot for not applying for in state?

Have been living + working in MI since July 2016.

[pantsuitchic]

Watching the rejections rolling in on LSN for candidates with better numbers than me has me thinking I need to send an LOCI to attempt to ward off the inevitable waitlist. Or is it too late now? IDK WHAT TO DO. HELP ME.

[Anon.y.mousse.]

was I an idiot for not applying for in state?

Have been living + working in MI since July 2016.

You could probably still apply for in-state tuition if you've been accepted, but the requirements for being deemed a Michigan resident are fairly stringent and outlined here http://ro.umich.edu/resreg.php. My parents have lived in MI for their entire lives and I attended all of my school through high school in Michigan and only moved out of state in April and I had to submit an application and still haven't heard back definitively either way (submitted all the supporting documentation in December). You have a chance, but they do note that being present continuously in Michigan for over a year, owning property, and paying taxes and stuff in MI are not enough in and of themselves.

[Stylnator]

was I an idiot for not applying for in state?

Have been living + working in MI since July 2016.

You could probably still apply for in-state tuition if you've been accepted, but the requirements for being deemed a Michigan resident are fairly stringent and outlined here http://ro.umich.edu/resreg.php. My parents have lived in MI for their entire lives and I attended all of my school through high school in Michigan and only moved out of state in April and I had to submit an application and still haven't heard back definitively either way (submitted all the supporting documentation in December). You have a chance, but they do note that being present continuously in Michigan for over a year, owning property, and paying taxes and stuff in MI are not enough in and of themselves.

Thank you for the link! I found this!

Circumstances that may demonstrate permanent Michigan residence

"You are employed in Michigan in a full-time, permanent position, your employment is the primary purpose for your or your family’s presence in the State, and you have severed any out-of-state ties that suggest another state is your legal residence."

Based on my current circumstances the answer to my question is yes, yes I am an idiot lol. I haven't been accepted yet, but if I am I will definitely apply for in state tuition.

[Anon.y.mousse.]

was I an idiot for not applying for in state?

Have been living + working in MI since July 2016.

You could probably still apply for in-state tuition if you've been accepted, but the requirements for being deemed a Michigan resident are fairly stringent and outlined here http://ro.umich.edu/resreg.php. My parents have lived in MI for their entire lives and I attended all of my school through high school in Michigan and only moved out of state in April and I had to submit an application and still haven't heard back definitively either way (submitted all the supporting documentation in December). You have a chance, but they do note that being present continuously in Michigan for over a year, owning property, and paying taxes and stuff in MI are not enough in and of themselves.

Thank you for the link! I found this!

Circumstances that may demonstrate permanent Michigan residence

"You are employed in Michigan in a full-time, permanent position, your employment is the primary purpose for your or your family’s presence in the State, and you have severed any out-of-state ties that suggest another state is your legal residence."

Based on my current circumstances the answer to my question is yes, yes I am an idiot lol. I haven't been accepted yet, but if I am I will definitely apply for in state tuition.

You could probably notify them now that you think you qualify so they can get the ball rolling with the residency office!

[Stylnator]

was I an idiot for not applying for in state?

Have been living + working in MI since July 2016.

You could probably still apply for in-state tuition if you've been accepted, but the requirements for being deemed a Michigan resident are fairly stringent and outlined here http://ro.umich.edu/resreg.php. My parents have lived in MI for their entire lives and I attended all of my school through high school in Michigan and only moved out of state in April and I had to submit an application and still haven't heard back definitively either way (submitted all the supporting documentation in December). You have a chance, but they do note that being present continuously in Michigan for over a year, owning property, and paying taxes and stuff in MI are not enough in and of themselves.

Thank you for the link! I found this!

Circumstances that may demonstrate permanent Michigan residence

"You are employed in Michigan in a full-time, permanent position, your employment is the primary purpose for your or your family’s presence in the State, and you have severed any out-of-state ties that suggest another state is your legal residence."

Based on my current circumstances the answer to my question is yes, yes I am an idiot lol. I haven't been accepted yet, but if I am I will definitely apply for in state tuition.

You could probably notify them now that you think you qualify so they can get the ball rolling with the residency office!

Michigan is a reach and since I haven't been accepted I don't want to seem hasty.

[nimbus cloud]

Michigan offered me 120k. Not bad, but tbh less than I hoped for. PM for stats.

[dclaw93]

Michigan offered me 120k. Not bad, but tbh less than I hoped for. PM for stats.

Just got $120k too, but I'm pretty happy with it! Makes Michigan very likely for me!

[20172017]

Michigan offered me 120k. Not bad, but tbh less than I hoped for. PM for stats.

+1

[chandhi]

Michigan offered me 120k. Not bad, but tbh less than I hoped for. PM for stats.

+1

I just got 120K as well. That's a huge portion of tuition! I am super happy about this and zero percent disappointed. Not to mention cost of living in Ann Arbor is practically nothing compared to lots of other schools.

[nimbus cloud]

Michigan offered me 120k. Not bad, but tbh less than I hoped for. PM for stats.

+1

I just got 120K as well. That's a huge portion of tuition! I am super happy about this and zero percent disappointed. Not to mention cost of living in Ann Arbor is practically nothing compared to lots of other schools.

I have substantial undergrad debt unfortunately (like 50k)... Not saying it's Michigan's problem, or that they're not being generous, but I've seen people with my stats/background get more so I hoped I'd get more as well. I could qualify for need-based aid as well but they don't consider it. So as it stands, I am not going to be able to justify attending.

[chandhi]

Michigan offered me 120k. Not bad, but tbh less than I hoped for. PM for stats.

+1

I just got 120K as well. That's a huge portion of tuition! I am super happy about this and zero percent disappointed. Not to mention cost of living in Ann Arbor is practically nothing compared to lots of other schools.

I have substantial undergrad debt unfortunately (like 50k)... Not saying it's Michigan's problem, or that they're not being generous, but I've seen people with my stats/background get more so I hoped I'd get more as well. I could qualify for need-based aid as well but they don't consider it. So as it stands, I am not going to be able to justify attending.

That's unfortunate. I'm sure you'll have some great options, though, if you already got this.

[nyu2019maybeplease]

Always negotiate.

Michigan offered me 120k. Not bad, but tbh less than I hoped for. PM for stats.

+1

I just got 120K as well. That's a huge portion of tuition! I am super happy about this and zero percent disappointed. Not to mention cost of living in Ann Arbor is practically nothing compared to lots of other schools.

I have substantial undergrad debt unfortunately (like 50k)... Not saying it's Michigan's problem, or that they're not being generous, but I've seen people with my stats/background get more so I hoped I'd get more as well. I could qualify for need-based aid as well but they don't consider it. So as it stands, I am not going to be able to justify attending.

[20172017]

Always negotiate.

Michigan offered me 120k. Not bad, but tbh less than I hoped for. PM for stats.

+1

I just got 120K as well. That's a huge portion of tuition! I am super happy about this and zero percent disappointed. Not to mention cost of living in Ann Arbor is practically nothing compared to lots of other schools.

I have substantial undergrad debt unfortunately (like 50k)... Not saying it's Michigan's problem, or that they're not being generous, but I've seen people with my stats/background get more so I hoped I'd get more as well. I could qualify for need-based aid as well but they don't consider it. So as it stands, I am not going to be able to justify attending.

IIRC a couple of people posted earlier in the thread about things being different this year, the faculty deciding to get rid of the negotiating process. I think someone already tried and was met with refusal. It can't hurt, but I probably wouldn't expect anything.

[CHyde]

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[nyu2019maybeplease]

Trust me. Always negotiate. And if you're in a position where you'd commit to Michigan but for needing a bit more aid, tell them that. You may not get anything, but you certainly lose nothing.

Always negotiate.

Michigan offered me 120k. Not bad, but tbh less than I hoped for. PM for stats.

+1

I just got 120K as well. That's a huge portion of tuition! I am super happy about this and zero percent disappointed. Not to mention cost of living in Ann Arbor is practically nothing compared to lots of other schools.

I have substantial undergrad debt unfortunately (like 50k)... Not saying it's Michigan's problem, or that they're not being generous, but I've seen people with my stats/background get more so I hoped I'd get more as well. I could qualify for need-based aid as well but they don't consider it. So as it stands, I am not going to be able to justify attending.

IIRC a couple of people posted earlier in the thread about things being different this year, the faculty deciding to get rid of the negotiating process. I think someone already tried and was met with refusal. It can't hurt, but I probably wouldn't expect anything.

[SlippinJimmy]

Rejected. I have the tremendous honor of being the first candidate with my numbers to be rejected on LSN.

GPA: ~Median, LSAT > 75th.

[proteinshake]

Rejected. I have the tremendous honor of being the first candidate with my numbers to be rejected on LSN.

GPA: ~Median, LSAT > 75th.

sorry to hear that. looks like this is a cycle of firsts!

[VinnyGambini Jr.]

Rejected. I have the tremendous honor of being the first candidate with my numbers to be rejected on LSN.

GPA: ~Median, LSAT > 75th.

When did you apply if you don't mind me asking?

[gargleblaster]

Michigan offered me 120k. Not bad, but tbh less than I hoped for. PM for stats.

Just got $120k too, but I'm pretty happy with it! Makes Michigan very likely for me!

120 club whaddup.

Im def gonna negotiate it. if Michigan gets to 150 I'm there, otherwise, meh

[addie1412]

A little confused re: scholarship negotiations.

In the last page of their "Think Michigan" pamphlet (promotional material sent before I applied), it says: "Entering 1L JD candidates may qualify for merit scholarships (whether outright, or made in competition with awards from other schools) and need-based grants."

[chandhi]

A little confused re: scholarship negotiations.

In the last page of their "Think Michigan" pamphlet (promotional material sent before I applied), it says: "Entering 1L JD candidates may qualify for merit scholarships (whether outright, or made in competition with awards from other schools) and need-based grants."

I would read that to mean that if Michigan gave you $0, but a peer school gave you $$$, they might offer you something.

[addie1412]

A little confused re: scholarship negotiations.

In the last page of their "Think Michigan" pamphlet (promotional material sent before I applied), it says: "Entering 1L JD candidates may qualify for merit scholarships (whether outright, or made in competition with awards from other schools) and need-based grants."

I would read that to mean that if Michigan gave you $0, but a peer school gave you $$$, they might offer you something.

Ah, I hadn't considered that. Thanks!