International Applicants 2014-15 Forum

[jawsjawsjaws]

I heard that you can get wait listed even if you do fine on your interview. I mean, if you are good enough to get an interview there, that means your English should be pretty good already. My friend is going to UVA on a full ride and is very fluent in English, but he got rejected after JS1.

[taptaptop]

I heard that you can get wait listed even if you do fine on your interview. I mean, if you are good enough to get an interview there, that means your English should be pretty good already. My friend is going to UVA on a full ride and is very fluent in English, but he got rejected after JS1.

English fluency is highly unlikely to be the reason why he got rejected. There's gotta be something other than that went wrong with his JS1. But a full ride in UVA is pretty awesome already.

[taptaptop]

I totally agree generally but the other option is to go for the ED at Northwestern with the $150k scholarship. I love Chicago, have friends there and would love to be debt free (plus NU is a great school) but Harvard is Harvard which as you said is definitely kinda sweet! Where did your friends end up? Did they get scholarships?

Well those who got in Harvard finally ended up in Harvard. The 174 who got dinged, if I remember correctly, went to Columbia.

Also, applying to Harvard does not mean you cannot ED Northwestern. You can always do both, the bright side would be you got in both, and you go to NU debt free. Nothing beats getting free education from a T14 IMO. But keep in mind that the ddl for NU ED is Dec 1st, LSAC might need couple of days to process your application and send it to NU, so you might want to do that as soon as possible if you make up your mind.

[musedreverie]

Well those who got in Harvard finally ended up in Harvard. The 174 who got dinged, if I remember correctly, went to Columbia.

ending up at Columbia is amazing, anyway. I hope I have half their good luck!

Congrats to your friends and their successful cycle; thanks for the information, and hope you have a very good cycle yourself!!

[charrob]

You're right. I guess my decision is actually around should I apply ED to Northwestern or just apply RD (and apply to Harvard either way). Although the chances of being rejected by NU but accepted by Harvard seem slim to none. And thanks - I totally misunderstood the waitlist point and thought they'd all been cruelly dropped off of the waitlist!

[sorcer]

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[adeel]

International folks! How are you planning to finance your law degree in the US?

[jawsjawsjaws]

International folks! How are you planning to finance your law degree in the US?

Win Mega Million

[Hand]

International folks! How are you planning to finance your law degree in the US?

Win Mega Million

^^

I'm a permanent resident so I can take out government loans just like anybody else. I assume those who can't do that either hope to get a full ride, have big savings, rich parents, and/or will take out private loans for the rest?

[taptaptop]

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I'm a permanent resident so I can take out government loans just like anybody else. I assume those who can't do that either hope to get a full ride, have big savings, rich parents, and/or will take out private loans for the rest?

[earthabides]

I need to get into either Harvard or Yale for their institutional loans, or I need to get a full ride.

[musedreverie]

International folks! How are you planning to finance your law degree in the US?

Win Mega Million

^^

I'm a permanent resident so I can take out government loans just like anybody else. I assume those who can't do that either hope to get a full ride, have big savings, rich parents, and/or will take out private loans for the rest?

don't want to rely on my parent's money at the age of 20-something. Seems a bit sad to ask them to pay for my studies after university level... but that's just me, perhaps because my parents aren't as loaded as many others

[adeel]

So folks top 10 with a small scholarship, big loan and/or parents support, or 20-30 ranked full ride? Dilemmas of our lives man! Also we can talk about the law schools which might have a soft corner for us internationals. For instance I d advice internationals to not even consider Iowa since, yes, they are brutal with us internationals when it comes to money. They just dnt have any for us.

[WeeBey]

So folks top 10 with a small scholarship, big loan and/or parents support, or 20-30 ranked full ride? Dilemmas of our lives man! Also we can talk about the law schools which might have a soft corner for us internationals. For instance I d advice internationals to not even consider Iowa since, yes, they are brutal with us internationals when it comes to money. They just dnt have any for us.

Whats the point of a full ride if you wont get a job? As a international you gonna have to find a firm to sponser your VISA, and small firms wont want to, so you need biglaw and those schools dont place well in biglaw.

top 10 isnt really a thing, but as an international hoping to work in the US, stick to the t14.

[taptaptop]

Whats the point of a full ride if you wont get a job? As a international you gonna have to find a firm to sponser your VISA, and small firms wont want to, so you need biglaw and those schools dont place well in biglaw.

top 10 isnt really a thing, but as an international hoping to work in the US, stick to the t14.

I just got full ride from WUSTL, but I think I'll still stick to the T14 even if at sticker..

[Brady199]

Whats the point of a full ride if you wont get a job? As a international you gonna have to find a firm to sponser your VISA, and small firms wont want to, so you need biglaw and those schools dont place well in biglaw.

top 10 isnt really a thing, but as an international hoping to work in the US, stick to the t14.

I just got full ride from WUSTL, but I think I'll still stick to the T14 even if at sticker..

Congrats with one in the bag!! ED/RD? Also how did you find out?

[taptaptop]

Whats the point of a full ride if you wont get a job? As a international you gonna have to find a firm to sponser your VISA, and small firms wont want to, so you need biglaw and those schools dont place well in biglaw.

top 10 isnt really a thing, but as an international hoping to work in the US, stick to the t14.

I just got full ride from WUSTL, but I think I'll still stick to the T14 even if at sticker..

Congrats with one in the bag!! ED/RD? Also how did you find out?

RD, email

[adeel]

Cool man. Congratulations!

[fairhope71]

I am a non-traditional(read old) applicant and had an in-person alumni interview for a school among the top of my list.

Basically I was told...'you are too old, even older than partners at this firm...
partners would feel uncomfortable making you work because of your age.'

I asked him which area of law he would recommend for me to focus on...he said he can't tell.

'Any advice for me?' 'I got nothing to say.'

The saddest thing was...he didn't seem to love or be proud of his alma mater.
I have no idea why he agreed to do the interview in the first place.

Is this a normal experience?

[musedreverie]

I just got full ride from WUSTL, but I think I'll still stick to the T14 even if at sticker..

Congrats mate! (Even if you don't plan on attending it, must be a comfort knowing you have a full ride to a v. decent school!)

I am a non-traditional(read old) applicant and had an in-person alumni interview for a school among the top of my list.

Basically I was told...'you are too old, even older than partners at this firm...
partners would feel uncomfortable making you work because of your age.'

I asked him which area of law he would recommend for me to focus on...he said he can't tell.

'Any advice for me?' 'I got nothing to say.'

The saddest thing was...he didn't seem to love or be proud of his alma mater.
I have no idea why he agreed to do the interview in the first place.

Is this a normal experience?

...hmm? The interviewer, pessimistic much?

No, I don't think it's a normal experience but you shouldn't be let down by it. Of course, age may be a factor the firms take into account when sending out job offers etc. but why would this matter too much at interview for law school?

Do you have expertise/ extensive experience in certain area to make up for your non-traditional status? Then maybe after law school you can dig into that field to your advantage.

Have a nice cup of hot chocolate and hopefully this cheers you up a bit..

[jawsjawsjaws]

Law schools care about employment rate of the students so it makes sense that they care about this kind of stuff, right?

[musedreverie]

Law schools care about employment rate of the students so it makes sense that they care about this kind of stuff, right?

yeah, good point.

But OP might have different reasons for going to a law school than to practice law in large law firms where age does matter? What do you want to do after law school, fairhope?

[jawsjawsjaws]

Law schools care about employment rate of the students so it makes sense that they care about this kind of stuff, right?

yeah, good point.

But OP might have different reasons for going to a law school than to practice law in large law firms where age does matter? What do you want to do after law school, fairhope?

That's true too. So I don't think you should be discouraged, OP. It really depends on where you want to go.

[fairhope71]

Law schools care about employment rate of the students so it makes sense that they care about this kind of stuff, right?

yeah, good point.

But OP might have different reasons for going to a law school than to practice law in large law firms where age does matter? What do you want to do after law school, fairhope?

I do not have any special preference for big law firms. As long as I can get employed, the firm's size doesn't matter.

[musedreverie]

Law schools care about employment rate of the students so it makes sense that they care about this kind of stuff, right?

yeah, good point.

But OP might have different reasons for going to a law school than to practice law in large law firms where age does matter? What do you want to do after law school, fairhope?

I do not have any special preference for big law firms. As long as I can get employed, the firm's size doesn't matter.

Do you want to work in the country you're in now (if it's not the US) or the US?

your age may be an impediment in your gaining employment in law firms, which may be what the interviewer was referring to. But if you've been working until now in a specialised field, then I think you should definitely dig into that field and explore your options from there on.

I'm sure whatever field it is has legal implications, and with your knowledge and experience, you'll be able to secure a job whatever your age with regards to that field