Yeah, I remember your name too. I'm not too horrified about NYU, so we'll see how it goes in the Village. Going to blame LSP for not accounting for the ends of the spectrumDreamShake wrote: I remember you from the Oct LSAT thread man, and I'm sorry to hear about your cycle. FWIW, I think you deserved a pass on your GPA and certainly got shortchanged (no pun intended) by some schools. NYU is still awesome, though, and if you REALLY want HYS, there's still the possibility of transferring (shitty consolation, I know). Good luck to you.
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Probable basis would be found at the discretion of the judge, would it not? If a prosecutor charges a person with felonious battery and the judgeDreamShake wrote:I remember you from the Oct LSAT thread man, and I'm sorry to hear about your cycle. FWIW, I think you deserved a pass on your GPA and certainly got shortchanged (no pun intended) by some schools. NYU is still awesome, though, and if you REALLY want HYS, there's still the possibility of transferring (shitty consolation, I know). Good luck to you.incompetentia wrote:Getting close here to finishing up.
Slight splitter, but LSP considers me a "strong consider" at HY and "admit" everywhere else...
H: First-pile reject.
CLS: Hold. Expecting ding soon.
NYU: No money.
Mich: WL.
GULC: No money.
Not disastrous, but not good.
Neither reducing sentencing nor dismissing cases is directly equivalent to choosing which charges are brought by the prosecution. For fuck's sake, sentencing doesn't even come till after trial.Derekj032 wrote:It's a pretty well known fact that a judge can reduce sentencing and dismiss cases at their discretion.
From the michigan.gov website ". . . If the Judge decides that there is not probable cause that the defendant committed the charged crime(s), the judge can bind the case over on different charges, can reduce the charges to misdemeanors for trial in District Court, or can dismiss charges. A defendant can give up his right to a Preliminary Examination. Most felonies arrive in Circuit Court after such a "waiver".
The passage you cited is discussing what a judge can do when there is no probable basis for finding the defendant guilty of a specific crime; it says nothing about a judge's ability to reduce a charge which has probable basis. Presumably, it's not discussed because the judge does not have that power (and for good reason). Thus, prosecutors can decide to press charges for a crime that, although technically committed, was minimally damaging and which carries penalties harsher than a given defendant deserves, and the judge cannot order those charges reduced because the crime in question does have probable basis.
Lastly, the passage you cited discusses the laws of one state. There are fifty states, which often have disparate rules and laws--nothing says that all state courts have or should have the authority described in your passage.
Next time, before you intimate somebody is a liar, get your facts straight. Not everybody is going to be so nice about correcting your shit and sending you on your way--IRL, big accusations can get you sued for defamation/slander.
/derail
believes that it is only simple battery he has the power to reduce the charges at his discretion.
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lol pricelesslateblooming wrote:i'd probably just get shut out of al-Qaeda anyway and have to settle for some tier 2 taliban clan.
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How many RC questions did you get right? 10? 11?? You need to reconsider being a lawyer.Derekj032 wrote: Probable basis would be found at the discretion of the judge, would it not? If a prosecutor charges a person with felonious battery and the judge
believes that it is only simple battery he has the power to reduce the charges at his discretion.
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45 at emory, 120 at IUB? 60 at Minn? GET OUT!!!
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Ya 13 acceptances out of 16 apps for a 3.4 167= this thread is not for you. You have outperformed LSP.
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thisSpookyghost wrote:45 at emory, 120 at IUB? 60 at Minn? GET OUT!!!
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This guy reminds me of someone I once watched try to explain that all attorneys are appointed to their cases by the judge. He had just completed an internship with an attorney in a jurisdiction without a public defender's office, so local attorneys put their names on a rotating list and get assigned to represent indigent clients as supplemental work, in addition to their privately retained clients. Over the 5 months he was there he never figured out that the attorney he worked with had no people skills and couldn't get/keep any private clients (plus he was lazy/incompetent), therefore his reliance on court-appointed clients. I tried to explain the reality of things...he didn't follow. I guess the guy in my story will just always think lawyers are court-appointed in all cases and Derekj032 will always think judges determine charges at their discretion.DreamShake wrote:How many RC questions did you get right? 10? 11?? You need to reconsider being a lawyer.Derekj032 wrote: Probable basis would be found at the discretion of the judge, would it not? If a prosecutor charges a person with felonious battery and the judge
believes that it is only simple battery he has the power to reduce the charges at his discretion.
Some people just don't get it. I highly encourage them to become lawyers, because I look forward to facing them in a courtroom.
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Probable basis would be found at the discretion of the judge, would it not? If a prosecutor charges a person with felonious battery and the judgeDerekj032 wrote:
/derail
believes that it is only simple battery he has the power to reduce the charges at his discretion.[/quote]
Yes, a judge /could/ do this, but the only judges that would do this would be elected judges who don't give a fuck about being bench slapped by the next higher judge. And even then, it reflects poorly on you if a ton of your decisions are reversed for not following the law if there is little ambiguity about how to apply it.
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Now that I have more decisions...I respectfully submit:
No longer applicable. Go Wildcats!
No longer applicable. Go Wildcats!
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What is YP?r6_philly wrote:Yes but then why ask me to apply personally, we didn't have to waste each other's time.Shooter wrote:
Paulina - I'm sorry about your loss...
r6 - That is obvious YP.
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Meh, it's bad but not THAT bad. You're a super-splitter and you applied to a bunch of schools that tend to shy away from splitters, while generally avoiding splitter-friendly schools. An early app with an ED next cycle might yield better results.splitmuch wrote:Now that I have more decisions...I respectfully submit:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/splitmuch
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beachbum wrote:Meh, it's bad but not THAT bad. You're a super-splitter and you applied to a bunch of schools that tend to shy away from splitters, while generally avoiding splitter-friendly schools. An early app with an ED next cycle might yield better results.splitmuch wrote:Now that I have more decisions...I respectfully submit:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/splitmuch
I agree that its not Worst cycle bad, its just scoring 99.9 percentile and getting in at 1 school kinda sucks, but i agree that with GPA its not too unexpected, just frustrating.
Really just GW, ND (im an alum) and GULC (not even preferred WL) hurt.
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Might be a bit unfair to characterize the whole of the T14 as unfriendly to splitters.beachbum wrote:Meh, it's bad but not THAT bad. You're a super-splitter and you applied to a bunch of schools that tend to shy away from splitters, while generally avoiding splitter-friendly schools. An early app with an ED next cycle might yield better results.splitmuch wrote:Now that I have more decisions...I respectfully submit:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/splitmuch
I do agree with the advice that with a GPA that low you could greatly benefit from ED.
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bdubs wrote:Might be a bit unfair to characterize the whole of the T14 as unfriendly to splitters.beachbum wrote:Meh, it's bad but not THAT bad. You're a super-splitter and you applied to a bunch of schools that tend to shy away from splitters, while generally avoiding splitter-friendly schools. An early app with an ED next cycle might yield better results.splitmuch wrote:Now that I have more decisions...I respectfully submit:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/splitmuch
I do agree with the advice that with a GPA that low you could greatly benefit from ED.
Ya I mean I have WE (but only 1 yr) so in those situations NW is splitter friendly, and GW and GULC are usually thought of that way, too, I believe.
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Yeah, anecdotally GULC is splitter friendly (they have one of the lowest 25% in the T14). I think NU is much more splitter friendly for 2+ years of WE, also they explicitly say that they don't like paralegal work which your profile mentions.splitmuch wrote:Ya I mean I have WE (but only 1 yr) so in those situations NW is splitter friendly, and GW and GULC are usually thought of that way, too, I believe.
You had a good shot of getting into GW (see below), so it was either your late application or your materials that hurt you.
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eesh thats rough, I have really similar numbers (3.1/177) and got the same amount of $ at WUSTL but I got into GULC as well, and waitlisted at Michigan. I applied super early though and I think that helped a lot.splitmuch wrote:bdubs wrote:Might be a bit unfair to characterize the whole of the T14 as unfriendly to splitters.beachbum wrote:Meh, it's bad but not THAT bad. You're a super-splitter and you applied to a bunch of schools that tend to shy away from splitters, while generally avoiding splitter-friendly schools. An early app with an ED next cycle might yield better results.splitmuch wrote:Now that I have more decisions...I respectfully submit:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/splitmuch
I do agree with the advice that with a GPA that low you could greatly benefit from ED.
Ya I mean I have WE (but only 1 yr) so in those situations NW is splitter friendly, and GW and GULC are usually thought of that way, too, I believe.
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Did you do the optional essay for ND? They tend to have a more holistic admissions process, so a well-rounded app (personalized to ND) could help you overcome a weak GPA.splitmuch wrote:beachbum wrote:Meh, it's bad but not THAT bad. You're a super-splitter and you applied to a bunch of schools that tend to shy away from splitters, while generally avoiding splitter-friendly schools. An early app with an ED next cycle might yield better results.splitmuch wrote:Now that I have more decisions...I respectfully submit:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/splitmuch
I agree that its not Worst cycle bad, its just scoring 99.9 percentile and getting in at 1 school kinda sucks, but i agree that with GPA its not too unexpected, just frustrating.
Really just GW, ND (im an alum) and GULC (not even preferred WL) hurt.
Honestly, the only result I'm surprised by is the outright rejection from Michigan (as opposed to a WL). The others are (more or less) expected, particularly if you waited until after the new year to submit your apps.
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I did do the optional essay and my materials were pretty tailored to ND (including one rec from an ND prof). Also somewhat surprised by the outright ding from UM, but c'est la vie. I'm content with WUSTL and that level of money.beachbum wrote:Did you do the optional essay for ND? They tend to have a more holistic admissions process, so a well-rounded app (personalized to ND) could help you overcome a weak GPA.splitmuch wrote:beachbum wrote:Meh, it's bad but not THAT bad. You're a super-splitter and you applied to a bunch of schools that tend to shy away from splitters, while generally avoiding splitter-friendly schools. An early app with an ED next cycle might yield better results.splitmuch wrote:Now that I have more decisions...I respectfully submit:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/splitmuch
I agree that its not Worst cycle bad, its just scoring 99.9 percentile and getting in at 1 school kinda sucks, but i agree that with GPA its not too unexpected, just frustrating.
Really just GW, ND (im an alum) and GULC (not even preferred WL) hurt.
Honestly, the only result I'm surprised by is the outright rejection from Michigan (as opposed to a WL). The others are (more or less) expected, particularly if you waited until after the new year to submit your apps.
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I respectfully submit:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/rman1201
It's not the worst, but I am a little PO'd about Emory and Dozo...
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/rman1201
It's not the worst, but I am a little PO'd about Emory and Dozo...
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Meh, it's bad but not THAT bad. You're a super-splitter and you applied to a bunch of schools that tend to shy away from splitters, while generally avoiding splitter-friendly schools. An early app with an ED next cycle might yield better results.[/quote]
I agree that its not Worst cycle bad, its just scoring 99.9 percentile and getting in at 1 school kinda sucks, but i agree that with GPA its not too unexpected, just frustrating.
Really just GW, ND (im an alum) and GULC (not even preferred WL) hurt.[/quote]
Did you do the optional essay for ND? They tend to have a more holistic admissions process, so a well-rounded app (personalized to ND) could help you overcome a weak GPA.
Honestly, the only result I'm surprised by is the outright rejection from Michigan (as opposed to a WL). The others are (more or less) expected, particularly if you waited until after the new year to submit your apps.[/quote]
I did do the optional essay and my materials were pretty tailored to ND (including one rec from an ND prof). Also somewhat surprised by the outright ding from UM, but c'est la vie. I'm content with WUSTL and that level of money.[/quote]
What happened to Pre-Med???? Did the 3.09 hold you back? I would try and kill the MCAT.
I agree that its not Worst cycle bad, its just scoring 99.9 percentile and getting in at 1 school kinda sucks, but i agree that with GPA its not too unexpected, just frustrating.
Really just GW, ND (im an alum) and GULC (not even preferred WL) hurt.[/quote]
Did you do the optional essay for ND? They tend to have a more holistic admissions process, so a well-rounded app (personalized to ND) could help you overcome a weak GPA.
Honestly, the only result I'm surprised by is the outright rejection from Michigan (as opposed to a WL). The others are (more or less) expected, particularly if you waited until after the new year to submit your apps.[/quote]
I did do the optional essay and my materials were pretty tailored to ND (including one rec from an ND prof). Also somewhat surprised by the outright ding from UM, but c'est la vie. I'm content with WUSTL and that level of money.[/quote]
What happened to Pre-Med???? Did the 3.09 hold you back? I would try and kill the MCAT.
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aliarrow wrote:I respectfully submit:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/rman1201
It's not the worst, but I am a little PO'd about Emory and Dozo...
This is perfectly normal. Consider the BU acceptance lucky.
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SrLaw wrote:
What happened to Pre-Med???? Did the 3.09 hold you back? I would try and kill the MCAT.
I actually got a 37 (98th percentile) on the MCAT. I know its a stupid financial decision but I would rather be a lawyer. I drudged through it in UG (hence the GPA) but I just don't like science.
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What is the med school view towards splitters? I'm just curious because I started out pre-med (but with my gpa hovering around 3.3-3.5 I figured I wasn't competitive for med school).splitmuch wrote:SrLaw wrote:
What happened to Pre-Med???? Did the 3.09 hold you back? I would try and kill the MCAT.
I actually got a 37 (98th percentile) on the MCAT. I know its a stupid financial decision but I would rather be a lawyer. I drudged through it in UG (hence the GPA) but I just don't like science.
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