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JS2s are upon us! What would you take over HLS? Anything?

HLS or bust, fam
93
19%
SLS/YLS
134
27%
T6 Full Tuition Scholly
122
25%
T6 w/ Money (< full)
39
8%
T6 Sticker
12
2%
T14 Full Tuition Scholly
60
12%
T14 w/ Money (< full)
21
4%
T14 Sticker
10
2%
 
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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by spectacles » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:22 pm

ArthurTimothyRead wrote:Congrats, JS1s!

The timing of this JS1 wave might imply a JS2 starting around 12:45? Thoughts?

Or is 3 PM more likely?
My bet is on late afternoon, if it’s even happening today. But there’s really no point in haunting the thread for guesses - we’re all in the dark.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by dm1683 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:31 pm

spectacles wrote: But there’s really no point in haunting the thread for guesses.
i don't start work until 3, what else am i supposed to do with my time? Read?

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by spectacles » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:34 pm

dm1683 wrote:
spectacles wrote: But there’s really no point in haunting the thread for guesses.
i don't start work until 3, what else am i supposed to do with my time? Read?
How am I supposed to know? I’m too busy enthusiastically ignoring my own advice.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by etramak » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:37 pm

too paranoid rn that faculty will not be impressed with my below-median lsat non-prestigious UG and lack of Fulbright scholarship.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by pghpens » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:38 pm

spectacles wrote:
dm1683 wrote:
spectacles wrote: But there’s really no point in haunting the thread for guesses.
i don't start work until 3, what else am i supposed to do with my time? Read?
How am I supposed to know? I’m too busy enthusiastically ignoring my own advice.
Should be grading papers but here I am stress eating and playing mario kart

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by hg5710 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:42 pm

Can we safely say that anyone getting a JS1 this wave would have gotten it by now?

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by rideagain » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:44 pm

spam call from a boston area code just now I want to die

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by feralflamingo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:46 pm

hg5710 wrote:Can we safely say that anyone getting a JS1 this wave would have gotten it by now?
My mind read cycle instead of wave and I started hyperventilating
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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by pghpens » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:48 pm

rideagain wrote:spam call from a boston area code just now I want to die
I am so upset on your behalf rn

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by hg5710 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:50 pm

feralflamingo wrote:
hg5710 wrote:Can we safely say that anyone getting a JS1 this wave would have gotten it by now?
My mind read cycle instead of wave and I started hyperventilating
Save the hyperventilation for when you receive your JS1 :D

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by MonicaYoung_LOL » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:57 pm

pghpens wrote:
spectacles wrote:
dm1683 wrote:
spectacles wrote: But there’s really no point in haunting the thread for guesses.
i don't start work until 3, what else am i supposed to do with my time? Read?
How am I supposed to know? I’m too busy enthusiastically ignoring my own advice.
Should be grading papers but here I am stress eating and playing mario kart
I know people are hoping it'll be today at 3, but it looks like last year was Wednesday at 9:30 am for the second JS2 wave. So it may not be worth stressing over today!

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by etramak » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:21 pm

MonicaYoung_LOL wrote:
pghpens wrote:
spectacles wrote:
dm1683 wrote:
spectacles wrote: But there’s really no point in haunting the thread for guesses.
i don't start work until 3, what else am i supposed to do with my time? Read?
How am I supposed to know? I’m too busy enthusiastically ignoring my own advice.
Should be grading papers but here I am stress eating and playing mario kart
I know people are hoping it'll be today at 3, but it looks like last year was Wednesday at 9:30 am for the second JS2 wave. So it may not be worth stressing over today!
Is there a precedent for 3 pm? 9:30 am seems pretty early for a phone call wave considering everyone that isn't on the east coast.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by tortsilllustrated » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:30 pm

etramak wrote:
MonicaYoung_LOL wrote:
pghpens wrote:
spectacles wrote:
dm1683 wrote:
spectacles wrote: But there’s really no point in haunting the thread for guesses.
i don't start work until 3, what else am i supposed to do with my time? Read?
How am I supposed to know? I’m too busy enthusiastically ignoring my own advice.
Should be grading papers but here I am stress eating and playing mario kart
I know people are hoping it'll be today at 3, but it looks like last year was Wednesday at 9:30 am for the second JS2 wave. So it may not be worth stressing over today!
Is there a precedent for 3 pm? 9:30 am seems pretty early for a phone call wave considering everyone that isn't on the east coast.

No they did do 9 am before if you look at past threads. We need to stop speculating there might not even be a wave today.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by etramak » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:33 pm

Accd to latest Spivey data 834 applicants have ABOVE a 173. This seems to be bad news for anyone below a 173 but, then again, lsn shows Harvard was actually kinder to folks with 172 and 171 LSATs from 2008-2012 when applications were way higher compared to more recent years. In other words who knows.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by InterLaw » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:33 pm

Idk guys I'm really happy for you but at the same time I just want to cry

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by Bush v. Gorgeous » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:34 pm

etramak wrote:Accd to latest Spivey data 834 applicants have ABOVE a 173. This seems to be bad news for anyone below a 173 but, then again, lsn shows Harvard was actually kinder to folks with 172 and 171 LSATs from 2008-2012 when applications were way higher compared to more recent years. In other words who knows.
Also aren’t like 500 of those applicants going to Yale or Stanford?

I mean, I know my sad desperation for a JS1 is getting awkward to witness, but let’s at least crunch the numbers.
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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by staggeringelephant » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:36 pm

etramak wrote:Accd to latest Spivey data 834 applicants have ABOVE a 173. This seems to be bad news for anyone below a 173 but, then again, lsn shows Harvard was actually kinder to folks with 172 and 171 LSATs from 2008-2012 when applications were way higher compared to more recent years. In other words who knows.
WOW.... This is an extremely tough year... And we have to take in account of the applicants with GRE scores as well. It's a very difficult year for even those with 173....

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by dm1683 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:38 pm

staggeringelephant wrote:
etramak wrote:Accd to latest Spivey data 834 applicants have ABOVE a 173. This seems to be bad news for anyone below a 173 but, then again, lsn shows Harvard was actually kinder to folks with 172 and 171 LSATs from 2008-2012 when applications were way higher compared to more recent years. In other words who knows.
WOW.... This is an extremely tough year... And we have to take in account of the applicants with GRE scores as well. It's a very difficult year for even those with 173....
:(

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by fohner » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:41 pm

etramak wrote:Accd to latest Spivey data 834 applicants have ABOVE a 173. This seems to be bad news for anyone below a 173 but, then again, lsn shows Harvard was actually kinder to folks with 172 and 171 LSATs from 2008-2012 when applications were way higher compared to more recent years. In other words who knows.
I'd guess that a good deal of those 834 applicants are splitters who felt the need to study their asses off for the LSAT and aren't guaranteed to get in. Possibly all the talk online about the LSAT being learnable is inspiring more splitters to get these scores than people with high GPAs.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by jkander31 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:46 pm

fohner wrote:
etramak wrote:Accd to latest Spivey data 834 applicants have ABOVE a 173. This seems to be bad news for anyone below a 173 but, then again, lsn shows Harvard was actually kinder to folks with 172 and 171 LSATs from 2008-2012 when applications were way higher compared to more recent years. In other words who knows.
I'd guess that a good deal of those 834 applicants are splitters who felt the need to study their asses off for the LSAT and aren't guaranteed to get in. Possibly all the talk online about the LSAT being learnable is inspiring more splitters to get these scores than people with high GPAs.
And should I add for good measure that maybe our softs are also amazing

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by InvisiblePineapple » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:48 pm

fohner wrote:
etramak wrote:Accd to latest Spivey data 834 applicants have ABOVE a 173. This seems to be bad news for anyone below a 173 but, then again, lsn shows Harvard was actually kinder to folks with 172 and 171 LSATs from 2008-2012 when applications were way higher compared to more recent years. In other words who knows.
I'd guess that a good deal of those 834 applicants are splitters who felt the need to study their asses off for the LSAT and aren't guaranteed to get in. Possibly all the talk online about the LSAT being learnable is inspiring more splitters to get these scores than people with high GPAs.
Very frustrating for someone like me who worked his ass off to graduate with a 4.0 but didn't have the time, resources, or awareness to do anything other than self-study for the LSAT.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by tombradypatriots » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:53 pm

It looks like this cycle will hurt LSAT-friendly splitters (175+ LSATs, 3.7 GPAs etc) a lot more than prior cycles.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by etramak » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:00 pm

Bush v. Gorgeous wrote:
etramak wrote:Accd to latest Spivey data 834 applicants have ABOVE a 173. This seems to be bad news for anyone below a 173 but, then again, lsn shows Harvard was actually kinder to folks with 172 and 171 LSATs from 2008-2012 when applications were way higher compared to more recent years. In other words who knows.
Also aren’t like 500 of those applicants going to Yale or Stanford?

I mean, I know my sad desperation for a JS1 is getting awkward to witness, but let’s at least crunch the numbers.
Yes but Harvard matriculates only 400-500 themselves and I think accepts 900. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I want to be wrong!

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Post by b-a-n-a-n-a-s » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:01 pm

etramak wrote:
Bush v. Gorgeous wrote:
etramak wrote:Accd to latest Spivey data 834 applicants have ABOVE a 173. This seems to be bad news for anyone below a 173 but, then again, lsn shows Harvard was actually kinder to folks with 172 and 171 LSATs from 2008-2012 when applications were way higher compared to more recent years. In other words who knows.
Also aren’t like 500 of those applicants going to Yale or Stanford?

I mean, I know my sad desperation for a JS1 is getting awkward to witness, but let’s at least crunch the numbers.
Yes but Harvard matriculates only 400-500 themselves and I think accepts 900. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I want to be wrong!
http://hls.harvard.edu/dept/jdadmission ... and-facts/

Number of Applications: 5,755
Number of Admission Offers: 900
Percentage Offered Admission: 15.6%
Newly Enrolled 1Ls: 562

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Post by tuna_wasabi » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:04 pm

InvisiblePineapple wrote:
fohner wrote:
etramak wrote:Accd to latest Spivey data 834 applicants have ABOVE a 173. This seems to be bad news for anyone below a 173 but, then again, lsn shows Harvard was actually kinder to folks with 172 and 171 LSATs from 2008-2012 when applications were way higher compared to more recent years. In other words who knows.
I'd guess that a good deal of those 834 applicants are splitters who felt the need to study their asses off for the LSAT and aren't guaranteed to get in. Possibly all the talk online about the LSAT being learnable is inspiring more splitters to get these scores than people with high GPAs.
Very frustrating for someone like me who worked his ass off to graduate with a 4.0 but didn't have the time, resources, or awareness to do anything other than self-study for the LSAT.
http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/cycle- ... f-1-12-18/

Getting off the tangents here, but I'm confused. Total applicants per Spivey's blog are 25,802, and 1,135 got 173+. That doesn't correspond to the usual LSAT percentiles (172 or 173 being the usual cut-off for the 99th percentile).

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