UCLA? 2011 Forum

[Bumi]

If you want to go to a school, then yes withdrawing is probably not a good move.

[r6_philly]

I'm new to this, can someone explain what the benefits are of withdrawing an app to a school you've become sure you don't want to attend? (Not WL'd...also I'm not referring to UCLA, ha)

It seems like the real benefit is that you don't have to worry about an additional school that you only have a small chance of getting into. Also it frees up the spot for people on the WL who desperately want to go to that school.

However, if you really want to go to that school yourself (i.e. it's your top choice), there is no real benefit to withdrawing.

There is no benefit at all. It's nice to have the options open, since you already paid the money.

[kelesands]

I'm new to this, can someone explain what the benefits are of withdrawing an app to a school you've become sure you don't want to attend? (Not WL'd...also I'm not referring to UCLA, ha)

It seems like the real benefit is that you don't have to worry about an additional school that you only have a small chance of getting into. Also it frees up the spot for people on the WL who desperately want to go to that school.

However, if you really want to go to that school yourself (i.e. it's your top choice), there is no real benefit to withdrawing.

There is no benefit at all. It's nice to have the options open, since you already paid the money.

This is exactly what I thought. LOL.

Once I know whether I'm admitted and with what $$ offer (and I'm sure I'm not going) of course I will open up the spot for others. But I just can't see the benefit of withdrawing an app before I know the outcome...perhaps mental health for some.

[jwmalone87]

Yeah, it does help someone else who's waiting for that spot. I think that's reason enough, especially if you couldn't honestly and completely see yourself attending that school.

[r6_philly]

Yeah, it does help someone else who's waiting for that spot. I think that's reason enough, especially if you couldn't honestly and completely see yourself attending that school.

It doesn't work this way. Since schools give away more admission offers than they have seats (a lot more since yield at lower ranked schools are a lot less than 40-50%) they will not go to WL until deposits are due. Most people will not withdraw until they make deposit, so early withdraws will just be ignored.

[Arbiter213]

Silly UCLA sent me an email saying they got my fin. aid app, but that there were "mistakes" on it- but they weren't mistakes x_X ... sigh @ UCLA...

[sanguar]

Silly UCLA sent me an email saying they got my fin. aid app, but that there were "mistakes" on it- but they weren't mistakes x_X ... sigh @ UCLA...

Was it your FAFSA or NeedAccess? I sent my NeedAccess a few days ago, and my FAFSA this morning. I was wondering about how long before I could call them to make sure they've received it all. (I'm paranoid about bureaucratic foul-ups, exp. when it comes to $ things. Though actually every dealing I've had with UCLA administrative/bureaucratic things has been remarkably good and easy so far.) When did you submit your forms?

[Arbiter213]

Silly UCLA sent me an email saying they got my fin. aid app, but that there were "mistakes" on it- but they weren't mistakes x_X ... sigh @ UCLA...

Was it your FAFSA or NeedAccess? I sent my NeedAccess a few days ago, and my FAFSA this morning. I was wondering about how long before I could call them to make sure they've received it all. (I'm paranoid about bureaucratic foul-ups, exp. when it comes to $ things. Though actually every dealing I've had with UCLA administrative/bureaucratic things has been remarkably good and easy so far.) When did you submit your forms?

Needaccess, and I got them out around 2 weeks ago, IIRC. My opinion of how they're handling this will be determined by whether and how much aid they offer me.

[sanguar]

Needaccess, and I got them out around 2 weeks ago, IIRC. My opinion of how they're handling this will be determined by whether and how much aid they offer me.

Lol. Thanks for the info. I didn't necessarily mean to praise their whole app/$ process specifically. But I've had to call some of their offices (not just the law school ones) a few times for some info (housing, travel to ASW, housing again, and one more I think), and it's always been a really smooth process with competent people on the phone willing to help. In contrast, I've been at schools where getting information out of administrative offices requires a secret handshake, black magic, and a dentist drill. Somehow one of the things I like best about UCLA is how easy they've been to deal with. It's like great customer service from a business: fosters a positive emotional association.

[Arbiter213]

Needaccess, and I got them out around 2 weeks ago, IIRC. My opinion of how they're handling this will be determined by whether and how much aid they offer me.

Lol. Thanks for the info. I didn't necessarily mean to praise their whole app/$ process specifically. But I've had to call some of their offices (not just the law school ones) a few times for some info (housing, travel to ASW, housing again, and one more I think), and it's always been a really smooth process with competent people on the phone willing to help. In contrast, I've been at schools where getting information out of administrative offices requires a secret handshake, black magic, and a dentist drill. Somehow one of the things I like best about UCLA is how easy they've been to deal with. It's like great customer service from a business: fosters a positive emotional association.

Yah- they ARE very easy to deal with, but the tone of the email they sent me- automatically assuming I made a mistake on how broke my family is, put a sour taste in my mouth.

[glitter178]

I'm worried I should already know this but... What is need access?

[sanguar]

Yah- they ARE very easy to deal with, but the tone of the email they sent me- automatically assuming I made a mistake on how broke my family is, put a sour taste in my mouth.

Yeah, I'd imagine it's a bit of an awkward conversation too. UCLA: "You're not really this poor are you?" You: "Yep". UCLA: "oh... sorry"

Maybe they'll make it up to you with a boatload of $$!

[sanguar]

I'm worried I should already know this but... What is need access?

It's a financial aid form. You can find it online at needaccess.org. Not all schools use it, but UCLA and a few others do. I think they use it to determine need-based grant money (whereas fafsa is used to determine need-based loans). [If I've screwed up the different uses, somebody correct me. This is just the understanding that I had about it].

[aaaaaah]

Yah- they ARE very easy to deal with, but the tone of the email they sent me- automatically assuming I made a mistake on how broke my family is, put a sour taste in my mouth.

I sympathize with this. NYU (undergrad) once did the same thing to me, then proceeded to audit my paperwork when I insisted it wasn't a mistake. You would think people working in financial aid offices would be trained to be more sensitive about such matters.

[registeredtosay]

I got the complete email from UCLA in mid october and haven't heard anything since. Thinking about sending them a "Why UCLA". Is this a good idea?

[Arbiter213]

Yah- they ARE very easy to deal with, but the tone of the email they sent me- automatically assuming I made a mistake on how broke my family is, put a sour taste in my mouth.

I sympathize with this. NYU (undergrad) once did the same thing to me, then proceeded to audit my paperwork when I insisted it wasn't a mistake. You would think people working in financial aid offices would be trained to be more sensitive about such matters.

TBF, there IS something weird on it, so I was sort of expecting an inquiry, but assuming it's a mistake seems a little rude. And one of the things they questioned just didn't make sense at all.

[Arbiter213]

I got the complete email from UCLA in mid october and haven't heard anything since. Thinking about sending them a "Why UCLA". Is this a good idea?

Stats?

[registeredtosay]

Below 50th GPA, at 75th LSAT. CA resident

[Arbiter213]

Below 50th GPA, at 75th LSAT. CA resident

You're probably fine? Couldn't hurt, I doubt you'll get WL so no reason not to.

[JKill01]

Out via e-mail. Bad day....

[glitched]

Out via e-mail. Bad day....

Man I wish I could buy you a drink... my condolences.

[JKill01]

Thanks! I'll be okay. Congrats on your acceptances in your profile. That's awesome!

[UA7789]

I was wondering how long on average it takes to go complete? I sent my app in almost a month ago, and still have not received a complete e-mail. hmmm....

[mistermister]

Out via e-mail. Bad day....

sorry to hear it. mind sharing when you went complete?

[JJDancer]

I was wondering how long on average it takes to go complete? I sent my app in almost a month ago, and still have not received a complete e-mail. hmmm....

Went complete in days.

I would call to check on that.