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Re: Michigan Law School C/O 2019 Applicants (2015-16)

Post by WinterComing » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:40 am

QuentonCassidy wrote:Darrow interview tomorrow, does anyone know a timetable on when they actually give them out? Also, anyone know if they all come out at once or in waves?
("give them out" meaning award the actual scholarships, not interview invites)
I had my interview a week ago, and the interviewer told me that I would hear back within a few weeks. In the email invitation for the interview, it says, "You can expect to learn a decision within two weeks of your interview." So seems like you (and maybe I?) will be getting good news in the not too distant future.

ETA: As for the second question, my wild speculation would be that the notifications go out at different times for each applicant, to meet the two week target, sort of like the 10-day period for Duke PT.

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Re: Michigan Law School C/O 2019 Applicants (2015-16)

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:34 am

jnwa wrote:
QuentonCassidy wrote: Hush little Darrow don't say a peep,
Michigan's gonna buy you a law degree,
and if that law degree does work,
maybe you'll become a federal clerk
Any chance you have an mp3 of this?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1keymp4BUfX

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Re: Michigan Law School C/O 2019 Applicants (2015-16)

Post by QuentonCassidy » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:15 am

Li'l Sebastian wrote:
jnwa wrote:
QuentonCassidy wrote: Hush little Darrow don't say a peep,
Michigan's gonna buy you a law degree,
and if that law degree does work,
maybe you'll become a federal clerk
Any chance you have an mp3 of this?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1keymp4BUfX
Hahahahahha, I don't know what I expected when I clicked on that link...

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Re: Michigan Law School C/O 2019 Applicants (2015-16)

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:35 am

QuentonCassidy wrote: Hahahahahha, I don't know what I expected when I clicked on that link...
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Re: Michigan Law School C/O 2019 Applicants (2015-16)

Post by wilfred » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:36 pm

So what's the consensus on the Lawyers Club? Pretty cool digs, or a little too much like undergrad?

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Re: Michigan Law School C/O 2019 Applicants (2015-16)

Post by Decisions Decisions » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:44 am

wilfred wrote:So what's the consensus on the Lawyers Club? Pretty cool digs, or a little too much like undergrad?
Current Lawyers Club resident here.

I like it a lot and I think most of the people who live here are happy with it. The 1Ls who tend to live elsewhere are those with significant others, pets, and/or former UM undergrads who already had a place. It really makes meeting people from other sections very easy and I particularly loved it at the beginning of the semester when everyone was still getting to know each other. The lounges are great for watching TV/Movies and I've never had a problem finding at least one unoccupied one. I've also found the staff to be extremely friendly and accommodating. I like the location a lot too. It's obviously the closest option for all of your classes, but it's also a pretty quick walk to the State Street convenience stores, the gyms (the Ross $200/semester one is just across the street and the free CCRB and IM Building aren't more than a few minutes away), and it's pretty easy to get to both the South U and downtown bars/restaurants. Another pretty convenient thing is that apartments in Ann Arbor tend to be 12-month leases, not school year leases. You'll never have to worry about finding someone to sublet your room.

It has its drawbacks though, some of which I knew before moving in and others I did not. The no-kitchen thing is the big one I saw a lot. I loved cooking before law school so not having an in-room kitchen was extremely disappointing at first, but now I like the convenience of someone else cooking for me. The dining hall food isn't bad and every room has a mini-fridge (I took the shelf out in mine and I would say it fits three gallons of milk on the main shelf and has a decent sized drawer as well as door shelves) and microwave. There are no meals on Saturdays which is certainly less than ideal, but I tend to use the community kitchen if I don't want to eat what's in my room or go out. The rooms can be a little hit or miss as well. The standard room is pretty much defined as "under 200 square feet, not counting the bathroom". Most of the rooms are very close in square footage, but a few lucky people will get the ~195 sq. foot rooms while an unlucky few will be stuck in the ~130 sq. foot ones (For the same price). Some of the rooms also look very different from the rest and are oddly (and, perhaps, inconveniently) shaped. That said, none of them are THAT bad and the smaller ones tend to have extra space savers like additional wall-shelves and book shelves.

Room-to-Room, the noise levels are very low. I have neighbors on both sides and I have never heard anything through my walls from them. Hallway-to-Room noise tends to be a little worse. If you happen to be by an entrance or staircase, and people are having a conversation as they walk by, you can hear them through the door. People here are pretty considerate though, so unless it's like the last day of finals or Halloween or something like that, I would never call it "noisy". One of the only "bad undergrad experiences" that I have at the Lawyers Club is with laundry. You can check online before leaving your room to make sure machines are open, and it's super easy to put money on your Student ID to use them. That said, there are only 6 washers and 6 dryers. If you want to do laundry every Sunday at Noon, it's probably not going to consistently happen.

The last thing I can think of sort of comes with the territory I guess. The Lawyers Club and Law Quad, particularly before the snow starts to fall, get a lot of visitors. Wedding photos are pretty common on the Quad and it seems like the most desirable spots are also the ones you will be walking to the most. It's never been super inconvenient or anything like that, but it can be a little annoying at times. I don't think of myself as a rude person, but when what seems like the hundredth wedding shoot of the week is taking place between your door and the dining hall at dinner time, I'm not going to wait for the shot before walking where I need to go. We also get a lot of alums come in for football games, usually between like late morning Friday and Saturday before kickoff. If you happen to like studying in the reading room, and want to either skip the game or just read beforehand, expect a lot of traffic. People love to come in to the reading room and look around for a bit. Others just tend to hangout in the Quad with their family.

Overall, I love living here and I think most of my classmates enjoy it. I know a really good number of current 1Ls who are planning to sign a lease for next year as well. I also thing that most of the drawbacks I mentioned can easily be a positive thing. We have a few alumni receptions on the Friday nights before gamedays, which are pretty good networking opportunities. The community kitchen has pots, pans and, measuring cups so you don't have to worry about buying all of that. For what it's worth, I don't think I've talked to anyone who regrets living here for 1L. In fact, I've heard from a few people that if they weren't in serious relationships or didn't have pets, they would live here as well. Hopefully that helps!

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Post by texasrangersjb » Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:57 pm

gsy987 wrote:
GoogleWasMyIdea wrote:
gsy987 wrote:
1. I just booked a trip to Vietnam during early summertime (always been my dream to go there.)
2. My current, full-time job, requires that I stay on for 2 years before they can't take any of my signing bonus back. The two year anniversary is (of course!) on June 2.

Here's where I'm a bit nervous though... both of those things, especially #2, are things I theoretically should've thought about before I said I'd be willing to attend during summer!
Summer start begins June 2. If your two-year anniversary is June 2nd, that means you could meet the requirement for taking some of your signing bonus back by having your last day of work be June 1. That would be two years at the job. Working on June 2 would be 2 years and 1 day.

Yes you would miss orientation, but is it worth going to fall start WUSTL over Michigan because you wanted to attend orientation?

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Re: Michigan Law School C/O 2019 Applicants (2015-16)

Post by CJRpnw » Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:00 pm

Decisions Decisions wrote:
wilfred wrote:So what's the consensus on the Lawyers Club? Pretty cool digs, or a little too much like undergrad?
Current Lawyers Club resident here.

I like it a lot and I think most of the people who live here are happy with it. The 1Ls who tend to live elsewhere are those with significant others, pets, and/or former UM undergrads who already had a place. It really makes meeting people from other sections very easy and I particularly loved it at the beginning of the semester when everyone was still getting to know each other. The lounges are great for watching TV/Movies and I've never had a problem finding at least one unoccupied one. I've also found the staff to be extremely friendly and accommodating. I like the location a lot too. It's obviously the closest option for all of your classes, but it's also a pretty quick walk to the State Street convenience stores, the gyms (the Ross $200/semester one is just across the street and the free CCRB and IM Building aren't more than a few minutes away), and it's pretty easy to get to both the South U and downtown bars/restaurants. Another pretty convenient thing is that apartments in Ann Arbor tend to be 12-month leases, not school year leases. You'll never have to worry about finding someone to sublet your room.

It has its drawbacks though, some of which I knew before moving in and others I did not. The no-kitchen thing is the big one I saw a lot. I loved cooking before law school so not having an in-room kitchen was extremely disappointing at first, but now I like the convenience of someone else cooking for me. The dining hall food isn't bad and every room has a mini-fridge (I took the shelf out in mine and I would say it fits three gallons of milk on the main shelf and has a decent sized drawer as well as door shelves) and microwave. There are no meals on Saturdays which is certainly less than ideal, but I tend to use the community kitchen if I don't want to eat what's in my room or go out. The rooms can be a little hit or miss as well. The standard room is pretty much defined as "under 200 square feet, not counting the bathroom". Most of the rooms are very close in square footage, but a few lucky people will get the ~195 sq. foot rooms while an unlucky few will be stuck in the ~130 sq. foot ones (For the same price). Some of the rooms also look very different from the rest and are oddly (and, perhaps, inconveniently) shaped. That said, none of them are THAT bad and the smaller ones tend to have extra space savers like additional wall-shelves and book shelves.

Room-to-Room, the noise levels are very low. I have neighbors on both sides and I have never heard anything through my walls from them. Hallway-to-Room noise tends to be a little worse. If you happen to be by an entrance or staircase, and people are having a conversation as they walk by, you can hear them through the door. People here are pretty considerate though, so unless it's like the last day of finals or Halloween or something like that, I would never call it "noisy". One of the only "bad undergrad experiences" that I have at the Lawyers Club is with laundry. You can check online before leaving your room to make sure machines are open, and it's super easy to put money on your Student ID to use them. That said, there are only 6 washers and 6 dryers. If you want to do laundry every Sunday at Noon, it's probably not going to consistently happen.

The last thing I can think of sort of comes with the territory I guess. The Lawyers Club and Law Quad, particularly before the snow starts to fall, get a lot of visitors. Wedding photos are pretty common on the Quad and it seems like the most desirable spots are also the ones you will be walking to the most. It's never been super inconvenient or anything like that, but it can be a little annoying at times. I don't think of myself as a rude person, but when what seems like the hundredth wedding shoot of the week is taking place between your door and the dining hall at dinner time, I'm not going to wait for the shot before walking where I need to go. We also get a lot of alums come in for football games, usually between like late morning Friday and Saturday before kickoff. If you happen to like studying in the reading room, and want to either skip the game or just read beforehand, expect a lot of traffic. People love to come in to the reading room and look around for a bit. Others just tend to hangout in the Quad with their family.

Overall, I love living here and I think most of my classmates enjoy it. I know a really good number of current 1Ls who are planning to sign a lease for next year as well. I also thing that most of the drawbacks I mentioned can easily be a positive thing. We have a few alumni receptions on the Friday nights before gamedays, which are pretty good networking opportunities. The community kitchen has pots, pans and, measuring cups so you don't have to worry about buying all of that. For what it's worth, I don't think I've talked to anyone who regrets living here for 1L. In fact, I've heard from a few people that if they weren't in serious relationships or didn't have pets, they would live here as well. Hopefully that helps!
This is an awesome response - thank you for taking the time!

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Post by Budfox55 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:41 pm

gsy987 wrote:
GoogleWasMyIdea wrote:
gsy987 wrote: 1 quick question: It said that i'm in for the summer of 2016... is there a way to switch to starting in August, or am I bound to starting in the summer if I chose to go there?
If you have a legitimate reason (e.g. KJD who doesn't want to jump straight to law school, family or health reasons, work related reasons), they'd be willing to switch you over to fall. But I think I remember reading in one of Dean Z's blogs or maybe an email she sent that they don't usually switch students from summer to fall just because the student changed his or her mind. There needs to be some reason.
My reason would be twofold:

1. I just booked a trip to Vietnam during early summertime (always been my dream to go there.)
2. My current, full-time job, requires that I stay on for 2 years before they can't take any of my signing bonus back. The two year anniversary is (of course!) on June 2.

Here's where I'm a bit nervous though... both of those things, especially #2, are things I theoretically should've thought about before I said I'd be willing to attend during summer!
Do you have any days off? This is kind of scummy (but I don't think that your employer can say anything about it though) but maybe you can take a few days vacation before and including June 2nd. So that way you can leave before June 2nd, but still technically be employed there for 2 years.

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Post by jnwa » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:42 pm

Li'l Sebastian wrote:
jnwa wrote:
QuentonCassidy wrote: Hush little Darrow don't say a peep,
Michigan's gonna buy you a law degree,
and if that law degree does work,
maybe you'll become a federal clerk
Any chance you have an mp3 of this?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1keymp4BUfX
It worked!!!! Full DARROW

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Post by jewkidontheblock » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:50 pm

wilfred wrote:So what's the consensus on the Lawyers Club? Pretty cool digs, or a little too much like undergrad?
I know we can apply for Lawyers Club before depositing - is the application non-binding until actually signing the lease?

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Post by QuentonCassidy » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:14 pm

jnwa wrote:
Li'l Sebastian wrote:
jnwa wrote:
QuentonCassidy wrote: Hush little Darrow don't say a peep,
Michigan's gonna buy you a law degree,
and if that law degree does work,
maybe you'll become a federal clerk
Any chance you have an mp3 of this?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1keymp4BUfX
It worked!!!! Full DARROW
Nice!!!! When did you interview? Also I totally understand if you don't want to answer the next two questions but I'm curious as to how much stipend came with it and what your stats are. Feel free to PM or just completely ignore if you want haha

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Post by CJRpnw » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:20 pm

jewkidontheblock wrote:
wilfred wrote:So what's the consensus on the Lawyers Club? Pretty cool digs, or a little too much like undergrad?
I know we can apply for Lawyers Club before depositing - is the application non-binding until actually signing the lease?
That is my understanding, yes.

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Post by jumbo2016 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:25 pm

jewkidontheblock wrote:
wilfred wrote:So what's the consensus on the Lawyers Club? Pretty cool digs, or a little too much like undergrad?
I know we can apply for Lawyers Club before depositing - is the application non-binding until actually signing the lease?
Yeah, from what I gather it's totally non binding. I already applied and got an email back saying that they will be able to send me a lease if I deposit at Michigan by the deadline but I'm not guaranteed a spot until I send back a signed lease.

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Post by Li'l Sebastian » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:27 pm

jnwa wrote: It worked!!!! Full DARROW
When you say full Darrow, do you mean Darrow + Stipend? Or just full as in full tuition?

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Li'l Sebastian wrote:
jnwa wrote: It worked!!!! Full DARROW
When you say full Darrow, do you mean Darrow + Stipend? Or just full as in full tuition?
Full plus 10k stipend. Also Quentin Cassidy I interviewed on the 15th and I'll pm you my numbers.

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jnwa wrote:
Li'l Sebastian wrote:
jnwa wrote: It worked!!!! Full DARROW
When you say full Darrow, do you mean Darrow + Stipend? Or just full as in full tuition?
Full plus 10k stipend. Also Quentin Cassidy I interviewed on the 15th and I'll pm you my numbers.
Nice! Congratulations! I interviewed on the 15th too.

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Post by urbanist11 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:24 pm

Huge congrats on the Darrow! That's amazing!

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jnwa wrote:
Li'l Sebastian wrote:
jnwa wrote:
QuentonCassidy wrote: Hush little Darrow don't say a peep,
Michigan's gonna buy you a law degree,
and if that law degree does work,
maybe you'll become a federal clerk
Any chance you have an mp3 of this?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1keymp4BUfX
It worked!!!! Full DARROW
Congrats! That's awesome!

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Post by WinterComing » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:47 pm

Li'l Sebastian wrote:
jnwa wrote:
Li'l Sebastian wrote:
jnwa wrote: It worked!!!! Full DARROW
When you say full Darrow, do you mean Darrow + Stipend? Or just full as in full tuition?
Full plus 10k stipend. Also Quentin Cassidy I interviewed on the 15th and I'll pm you my numbers.
Nice! Congratulations! I interviewed on the 15th too.
Congrats!!! I interviewed on Jan. 16, so I'm hoping for good news soon, too.

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Post by WinterComing » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:52 pm

jnwa wrote:
Li'l Sebastian wrote:
jnwa wrote: It worked!!!! Full DARROW
When you say full Darrow, do you mean Darrow + Stipend? Or just full as in full tuition?
Full plus 10k stipend. Also Quentin Cassidy I interviewed on the 15th and I'll pm you my numbers.
Also, one more question, if you don't mind: Did you find out via email or phone call or pigeon or...?

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Post by Li'l Sebastian » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:09 pm

WinterComing wrote:
Also, one more question, if you don't mind: Did you find out via email or phone call or pigeon or...?
Don't you mean raven, Lord Snow?

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WinterComing wrote:
jnwa wrote:
Li'l Sebastian wrote:
jnwa wrote: It worked!!!! Full DARROW
When you say full Darrow, do you mean Darrow + Stipend? Or just full as in full tuition?
Full plus 10k stipend. Also Quentin Cassidy I interviewed on the 15th and I'll pm you my numbers.
Also, one more question, if you don't mind: Did you find out via email or phone call or pigeon or...?
Town crier. Nah i got a call first but i didnt have reception in my dungeon of a classroom so i missed it. Then they emailed me after asking me to call back and when i did i got the news.

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Post by Jrr13 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:23 pm

rejected via status checker today. Oh well...I guess I'll apply next cycle!

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Post by MrR10 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:16 pm

Jrr13 wrote:rejected via status checker today. Oh well...I guess I'll apply next cycle!
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