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Post by Aeon » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:55 pm

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gazorpazorp wrote:Was just accepted this morning via the summer program! Firstly, I'm pumped. Secondly, does anyone know how exactly this works out with regards to tuition? Is the summer semester just another full-time semester, and are summer starters expected to finish a semester early (essentially making it a wash, money-wise?). Also wondering how long before I hear about financial aid, but I'm not too optimistic on that front.
It's my understanding that summer starters have the option of taking a semester off in the middle and graduating in 3 years in May with the rest of their class, or going full speed ahead and graduating a semester early in December.
Right. According to an email that they sent out to admits a week or two ago about the summer start, most summer starters graduate in December. If you want Big Law or clerkships, that might mean you'll end up sitting around until your job starts in the fall, but it gives you extra time to pass the bar and maybe take a vacation. If you want PI, it could conceivably be an advantage, because you'll be job hunting at a different time of year than the huge rush of people graduating in May.

But yeah, taking a semester off to do something cool at some point is also an option, so that you can graduate in May.
Many summer starters are able to start working in the late winter or early spring after graduation, though there are probably some employers that would not be amenable to that.

An additional advantage of starting in the summer is that for the first semester, you pay the preceding academic year's tuition. Considering how quickly tuition has been going up across the board, this might be several thousand dollars saved.

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Post by gazorpazorp » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:42 pm

Aeon wrote:
WinterComing wrote:
cdavis1024 wrote:
gazorpazorp wrote:Was just accepted this morning via the summer program! Firstly, I'm pumped. Secondly, does anyone know how exactly this works out with regards to tuition? Is the summer semester just another full-time semester, and are summer starters expected to finish a semester early (essentially making it a wash, money-wise?). Also wondering how long before I hear about financial aid, but I'm not too optimistic on that front.
It's my understanding that summer starters have the option of taking a semester off in the middle and graduating in 3 years in May with the rest of their class, or going full speed ahead and graduating a semester early in December.
Right. According to an email that they sent out to admits a week or two ago about the summer start, most summer starters graduate in December. If you want Big Law or clerkships, that might mean you'll end up sitting around until your job starts in the fall, but it gives you extra time to pass the bar and maybe take a vacation. If you want PI, it could conceivably be an advantage, because you'll be job hunting at a different time of year than the huge rush of people graduating in May.

But yeah, taking a semester off to do something cool at some point is also an option, so that you can graduate in May.
Many summer starters are able to start working in the late winter or early spring after graduation, though there are probably some employers that would not be amenable to that.

An additional advantage of starting in the summer is that for the first semester, you pay the preceding academic year's tuition. Considering how quickly tuition has been going up across the board, this might be several thousand dollars saved.
Thanks all. Curious: is it typical that Summer starters are students for whom Michigan would reasonably be considered a "reach" school? For instance, I'm 1 point below their LSAT median and right at the 75th percentile for GPA. I'm thinking it would probably be a longshot for me to be paying less than sticker.

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Post by Aeon » Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:18 am

gazorpazorp wrote:Thanks all. Curious: is it typical that Summer starters are students for whom Michigan would reasonably be considered a "reach" school? For instance, I'm 1 point below their LSAT median and right at the 75th percentile for GPA. I'm thinking it would probably be a longshot for me to be paying less than sticker.
Not necessarily, except to the extent that people for whom Michigan might be a reach self-select into the early decision pool. Historically the summer starter section was split about evenly between early and regular decision applicants, so even that's not terribly salient.

For what it's worth, I think you're right around the Goldilocks zone for Michigan, and it's possible you might even get a bit of scholarship money.

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Post by bdb90 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:03 am

Michigan, if you accept me, I will single-handedly win every football game for you next year.

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Post by QuentonCassidy » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:26 am

Darrow interview tomorrow, does anyone know a timetable on when they actually give them out? Also, anyone know if they all come out at once or in waves?
("give them out" meaning award the actual scholarships, not interview invites)

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Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:30 am

QuentonCassidy wrote:Darrow interview tomorrow, does anyone know a timetable on when they actually give them out? Also, anyone know if they all come out at once or in waves?
("give them out" meaning award the actual scholarships, not interview invites)
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Post by Olliedemars » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:52 am

QuentonCassidy wrote:Darrow interview tomorrow, does anyone know a timetable on when they actually give them out? Also, anyone know if they all come out at once or in waves?
("give them out" meaning award the actual scholarships, not interview invites)
Last year the first notifications occurred Jan 28th, about 2 weeks after interviews began. Not sure if responses come out in waves, though I would assume so.

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Post by gsy987 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:59 am

In at Michigan! Feel free to ask me about stats, etc.

Also, my email came at 6:30 AM on a Saturday! That can't be normal...can it??

1 quick question: It said that i'm in for the summer of 2016... is there a way to switch to starting in August, or am I bound to starting in the summer if I chose to go there?

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Post by Bluex12 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:07 pm

In this morning for summer! So excited! UM is probably my top choice. Feel free to PM for stats.

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Post by Aeon » Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:29 pm

QuentonCassidy wrote:Darrow interview tomorrow, does anyone know a timetable on when they actually give them out? Also, anyone know if they all come out at once or in waves?
Good luck. Historically it took about 2 weeks for them to make decisions, but I don't know if there's a firm deadline.

gsy987 wrote:Also, my email came at 6:30 AM on a Saturday! That can't be normal...can it??

1 quick question: It said that i'm in for the summer of 2016... is there a way to switch to starting in August, or am I bound to starting in the summer if I chose to go there?
I think the e-mails are sent out in batches at certain times. It's a good bet that the admissions office isn't open on Saturday, especially that early in the morning. :P

When you applied, did you select a preference for a start date? You can always contact them and ask to be switched to a fall start date. They might or might not agree, but it helps if you have a good reason for requesting the switch. I'd also ask them sooner rather than later, because they will have fewer spaces as the admissions season wears on.

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Post by nacogdoches » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:16 pm

Aeon wrote:
gsy987 wrote:Also, my email came at 6:30 AM on a Saturday! That can't be normal...can it??

1 quick question: It said that i'm in for the summer of 2016... is there a way to switch to starting in August, or am I bound to starting in the summer if I chose to go there?
I think the e-mails are sent out in batches at certain times. It's a good bet that the admissions office isn't open on Saturday, especially that early in the morning. :P

When you applied, did you select a preference for a start date? You can always contact them and ask to be switched to a fall start date. They might or might not agree, but it helps if you have a good reason for requesting the switch. I'd also ask them sooner rather than later, because they will have fewer spaces as the admissions season wears on.
Emails on Saturday mean that you were admitted on Friday. In one of her posts, Dean Z talked about how the database is updated overnight for the following day's activity. Congrats!

I don't know if they'll be too amenable to switching, but I'll PM you details why.

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Post by gsy987 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:33 pm

GoogleWasMyIdea wrote:
gsy987 wrote: 1 quick question: It said that i'm in for the summer of 2016... is there a way to switch to starting in August, or am I bound to starting in the summer if I chose to go there?
If you have a legitimate reason (e.g. KJD who doesn't want to jump straight to law school, family or health reasons, work related reasons), they'd be willing to switch you over to fall. But I think I remember reading in one of Dean Z's blogs or maybe an email she sent that they don't usually switch students from summer to fall just because the student changed his or her mind. There needs to be some reason.
My reason would be twofold:

1. I just booked a trip to Vietnam during early summertime (always been my dream to go there.)
2. My current, full-time job, requires that I stay on for 2 years before they can't take any of my signing bonus back. The two year anniversary is (of course!) on June 2.

Here's where I'm a bit nervous though... both of those things, especially #2, are things I theoretically should've thought about before I said I'd be willing to attend during summer!

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Post by OtterLaw » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:04 pm

GoogleWasMyIdea wrote:
gsy987 wrote: My reason would be twofold:
Maybe call and ask now! I'm sure they'd be more willing to accommodate you now rather than later, when their summer and fall seats are starting to fill.
And when you call, can you ask them to go ahead and accept me? Kthanksbye

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Post by zyxwvut2 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:43 pm

In!

Does summer start have any implications for scholarships and/or negotiating with other schools? I totally forgot I said I was open to either fall or summer :shock:

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zyxwvut2 wrote:In!

Does summer start have any implications for scholarships and/or negotiating with other schools? I totally forgot I said I was open to either fall or summer :shock:
Congratulations! No, summer start doesn't impact scholarships or negotiating with other schools.

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Post by icantwait » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:23 pm

In this morning for summer! Excited! When does scholly info come?

ETA: Does it come with the admission packet or later in the cycle?

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Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:20 pm

icantwait wrote:In this morning for summer! Excited! When does scholly info come?

ETA: Does it come with the admission packet or later in the cycle?
Your username is on point.

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icantwait wrote:In this morning for summer! Excited! When does scholly info come?

ETA: Does it come with the admission packet or later in the cycle?
Usually the award comes about two weeks following acceptance.

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Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:54 pm

nacogdoches wrote:
icantwait wrote:In this morning for summer! Excited! When does scholly info come?

ETA: Does it come with the admission packet or later in the cycle?
Usually the award comes about two weeks following acceptance.
I've been waiting months! Lol

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Li'l Sebastian wrote:
nacogdoches wrote:
icantwait wrote:In this morning for summer! Excited! When does scholly info come?

ETA: Does it come with the admission packet or later in the cycle?
Usually the award comes about two weeks following acceptance.
I've been waiting months! Lol
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Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:53 pm

QuentonCassidy wrote: Hush little Darrow don't say a peep,
Michigan's gonna buy you a law degree,
and if that law degree does work,
maybe you'll become a federal clerk
I'm dying. I read that while I was in a public restroom and just started laughing histerically and I'm pretty sure I scared the crap out of whoever was in the stall next to me.

Thank you Quenton, that was beautiful.

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Post by jnwa » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:55 pm

QuentonCassidy wrote:
Li'l Sebastian wrote:
nacogdoches wrote:
icantwait wrote:In this morning for summer! Excited! When does scholly info come?

ETA: Does it come with the admission packet or later in the cycle?
Usually the award comes about two weeks following acceptance.
I've been waiting months! Lol
Hush little Darrow don't say a peep,
Michigan's gonna buy you a law degree,
and if that law degree does work,
maybe you'll become a federal clerk
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