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What does everyone want to do and where do they wanna do it?

Biglaw!! $$$
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28%
Public Interest #Berkeley
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20%
Government
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10%
Other location (Not NE, midwest, south or Cali)
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2%
California
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NYC
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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by SlippinJimmy » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:26 am

charles117 wrote:
goldenbear2020 wrote:
charles117 wrote:
studyingeveryday wrote:It means he couldn't immediately make a decision on your application and it was sent to "faculty review" for further consideration (sorry, I think there's a better explanation somewhere in the thread). It's a good thing, you're still in the running! Any decision can occur after faculty review, but it is a decent sign and you'll find out around the date given.
ah ok thanks. do you think my chances are better than a coin flip at this point?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p9780235

My best guess is somewhere between 1/8 and 1/4 chances of getting in through FR.
is that an improvement or a downgrade from my chances straight out of application? I had a 167/3.77 from berkeley undergrad and applied on jan 10th. I just cant tell if this is good or bad news
Don't think anyone outside of the admissions committee can answer that. It's good news in the sense that you're still in consideration, but bad in the sense that the majority of the pool gets admitted from "administrative review".

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by Mr_Chukes » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:49 am

Do you guys think Berkeley will always top UCLA and USC or do you think they will eventually pass Berkeley?

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Post by nimbus cloud » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:51 am

Mr_Chukes wrote:Do you guys think Berkeley will always top UCLA and USC or do you think they will eventually pass Berkeley?
I doubt it is going to be happen within the timeframe that matters to us, i.e. next 5-10 years.

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Post by Baby Gaga » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:52 am

Mr_Chukes wrote:Do you guys think Berkeley will always top UCLA and USC or do you think they will eventually pass Berkeley?
I'd say they'd stay on top, but always is a long time

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Post by Rigo » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:54 am

I think UCLA will gain prominence and outcomes will more closely resemble Berkeley's as the years go on.

USC I don't think will.

Rankings are a racket though so I don't think they'll top Berkeley in that sense, but we should be looking at outcomes not rankings.

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Post by charles117 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:27 pm

Mr_Chukes wrote:Do you guys think Berkeley will always top UCLA and USC or do you think they will eventually pass Berkeley?
doubt it, prestige is determined by preexisting perception rather than actual quality/excellence

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Post by armc808 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:37 pm

Mr_Chukes wrote:Do you guys think Berkeley will always top UCLA and USC or do you think they will eventually pass Berkeley?
In terms of prestige, Berkeley will be the clear favorite for the foreseeable future.

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Post by genjustice » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:45 pm

UCLA does manage to have a higher LSAT median though, which is rather interesting.

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Post by charles117 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:53 pm

genjustice wrote:UCLA does manage to have a higher LSAT median though, which is rather interesting.
probably because berkeley can afford to admit a few more holistic folks without hurting its reputation/prestige

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by eck456 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:56 pm

genjustice wrote:UCLA does manage to have a higher LSAT median though, which is rather interesting.
Berkeley explicitly takes some people with lower LSATs because they think they're "interesting." They know it matters to rankings but they take an intentional hit anyway... if you look at the class there are some people who have REALLY LOW LSATS and might have ONLY gotten into Berkeley out of 10/12 applications, but are also often the people who go on and do crazy things, or have amazing work experience where they were working 100 hrs/ week when they took the lsat. berkeley could forgo those people and raise its LSAT median pretty easily, but choose not to bc of their "class creation" goals

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Post by crookedsmile » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:36 pm

Mr_Chukes wrote:Do you guys think Berkeley will always top UCLA and USC or do you think they will eventually pass Berkeley?
Doubt it. As was mentioned upthread, the prestige that comes with being a current T10 and long time T14 isn't easily undone. If anything I'd venture to say that USC surpasses UCLA at some point but doubt either one cracks the T14.

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Post by nimbus cloud » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:47 pm

The more relevant question is whether Berkeley becomes more generous with scholarships this year.

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Post by dmc1275 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:51 pm

nimbus cloud wrote:The more relevant question is whether Berkeley becomes more generous with scholarships this year.
Agreed. Waiting to buy a plane ticket/schedule a visit until I get at least a little assurance that Berkeley's offer will be even somewhat competitive.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by charles117 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:52 pm

nimbus cloud wrote:The more relevant question is whether Berkeley becomes more generous with scholarships this year.
doubt it, plenty of folks will pay sticker price any day

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Post by goldenbear2020 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:56 pm

charles117 wrote:
nimbus cloud wrote:The more relevant question is whether Berkeley becomes more generous with scholarships this year.
doubt it, plenty of folks will pay sticker price any day
+1. Plenty of "CA or bust" folks out there. My theory why Berkeley's BL+FC placement lags every T14 besides GULC is partly because lots of people would rather take any job in CA vs. biglaw in an easier market like NYC.

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Post by Assasindowntheavenue » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:58 pm

It sucks those who don't make it into the first wave of scholly offers (2/15) have to wait more than a month to hear in the second wave (3/20) :/

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Post by nimbus cloud » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:01 pm

goldenbear2020 wrote:
charles117 wrote:
nimbus cloud wrote:The more relevant question is whether Berkeley becomes more generous with scholarships this year.
doubt it, plenty of folks will pay sticker price any day
+1. Plenty of "CA or bust" folks out there. My theory why Berkeley's BL+FC placement lags every T14 besides GULC is partly because lots of people would rather take any job in CA vs. biglaw in an easier market like NYC.
The same reason why UCLA's medians are on par with many T14's even though the outcomes are considerably worse.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by nimbus cloud » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:02 pm

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:It sucks those who don't make it into the first wave of scholly offers (2/15) have to wait more than a month to hear in the second wave (3/20) :/
I wonder if the first wave will include people who had only been admitted a couple of weeks ago.

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Post by Keilz » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:07 pm

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:It sucks those who don't make it into the first wave of scholly offers (2/15) have to wait more than a month to hear in the second wave (3/20) :/
They specified these exact dates? If so, where? I was getting lost in the information.

Also I just submitted FAFSA and CSS to them this weekend so I hope that's okay.

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Post by Assasindowntheavenue » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:14 pm

nimbus cloud wrote:
Assasindowntheavenue wrote:It sucks those who don't make it into the first wave of scholly offers (2/15) have to wait more than a month to hear in the second wave (3/20) :/
I wonder if the first wave will include people who had only been admitted a couple of weeks ago.
I hope so since I just got admitted recently lol, but not holding my breath.

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Post by Assasindowntheavenue » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:15 pm

Keilz wrote:
Assasindowntheavenue wrote:It sucks those who don't make it into the first wave of scholly offers (2/15) have to wait more than a month to hear in the second wave (3/20) :/
They specified these exact dates? If so, where? I was getting lost in the information.

Also I just submitted FAFSA and CSS to them this weekend so I hope that's okay.
Got it from here:
https://www.law.berkeley.edu/admitted-s ... holarship/

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by Keilz » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:26 pm

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:
Keilz wrote:
Assasindowntheavenue wrote:It sucks those who don't make it into the first wave of scholly offers (2/15) have to wait more than a month to hear in the second wave (3/20) :/
They specified these exact dates? If so, where? I was getting lost in the information.

Also I just submitted FAFSA and CSS to them this weekend so I hope that's okay.
Got it from here:
https://www.law.berkeley.edu/admitted-s ... holarship/

Cool! I need to check out all these sites. I'm a little overwhelmed with all the information because of outside personal factors and still waiting for my first choice :'(

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Post by Mr_Chukes » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:29 pm

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:
Keilz wrote:
Assasindowntheavenue wrote:It sucks those who don't make it into the first wave of scholly offers (2/15) have to wait more than a month to hear in the second wave (3/20) :/
They specified these exact dates? If so, where? I was getting lost in the information.

Also I just submitted FAFSA and CSS to them this weekend so I hope that's okay.
Got it from here:
https://www.law.berkeley.edu/admitted-s ... holarship/
I honestly don't know what CSS is lol.

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Post by Assasindowntheavenue » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:30 pm

Keilz wrote:
Assasindowntheavenue wrote:
Keilz wrote:
Assasindowntheavenue wrote:It sucks those who don't make it into the first wave of scholly offers (2/15) have to wait more than a month to hear in the second wave (3/20) :/
They specified these exact dates? If so, where? I was getting lost in the information.

Also I just submitted FAFSA and CSS to them this weekend so I hope that's okay.
Got it from here:
https://www.law.berkeley.edu/admitted-s ... holarship/

Cool! I need to check out all these sites. I'm a little overwhelmed with all the information because of outside personal factors and still waiting for my first choice :'(
Yeah I get ya. I have all information and no time to look at it all. Just remember to write down the deadlines to accept the schollies you've already gotten. That's my biggest priority ATM.

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Post by badlefthook » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:37 pm

goldenbear2020 wrote:
charles117 wrote:
nimbus cloud wrote:The more relevant question is whether Berkeley becomes more generous with scholarships this year.
doubt it, plenty of folks will pay sticker price any day
+1. Plenty of "CA or bust" folks out there. My theory why Berkeley's BL+FC placement lags every T14 besides GULC is partly because lots of people would rather take any job in CA vs. biglaw in an easier market like NYC.
Do you have a link to illustrate what you're saying about Berkeley's BL+FC placement lagging behind the rest of T14? Thanks in advance.

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