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[lawschool1741]

Anyone's requirement list back?

mine is, and check marks are back

[louisianimal]

Anyone's requirement list back?

Yep! List and checks are all in their places with bright shining faces.

[strugglebus]

Anyone's requirement list back?

Yep, wasn't there when I checked earlier today, but now it's back. Literally the only thing that's happened to my SC since early October #radiosilencecrew

[Dream_weaver32]

My stuff is all back. I just want UVA to love me as much as I love them.

[pushsum123]

Just got a stunning rejection from Cornell, and now UVA is my top choice. Would it be okay to submit a Why UVA? three months after going Complete?

If you came across as desperate, whiny, entitled, and arrogant in your applications as you do on here, then it's pretty clear why Cornell and Michigan would ding you. They'd probably be thankful that you decided to sit out last year. What about you makes you such a desirable candidate, so worthy of admission to the top law schools that you're positively "stunned" to have been rejected? Is it your LSAT score? Can you see how a good mark on a 3 hr test would not be enough to overcome such serious character flaws? Consider the tone of your words before you decide to write. It's pretty clear that what you're doing now is not working, at any rate

[Scaliafan3421]

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[RhymesLikeDimes]

Just got a stunning rejection from Cornell, and now UVA is my top choice. Would it be okay to submit a Why UVA? three months after going Complete?

If you came across as desperate, whiny, entitled, and arrogant in your applications as you do on here, then it's pretty clear why Cornell and Michigan would ding you. They'd probably be thankful that you decided to sit out last year. What about you makes you such a desirable candidate, so worthy of admission to the top law schools that you're positively "stunned" to have been rejected? Is it your LSAT score? Can you see how a good mark on a 3 hr test would not be enough to overcome such serious character flaws? Consider the tone of your words before you decide to write. It's pretty clear that what you're doing now is not working, at any rate

lmao, this has got to be a troll post

There was NOTHING wrong with what Lightworks wrote. Based on LSN, anyone has the right to be stunned when rejected with those numbers. Grow up, and let's move on.

[pushsum123]

Just got a stunning rejection from Cornell, and now UVA is my top choice. Would it be okay to submit a Why UVA? three months after going Complete?

If you came across as desperate, whiny, entitled, and arrogant in your applications as you do on here, then it's pretty clear why Cornell and Michigan would ding you. They'd probably be thankful that you decided to sit out last year. What about you makes you such a desirable candidate, so worthy of admission to the top law schools that you're positively "stunned" to have been rejected? Is it your LSAT score? Can you see how a good mark on a 3 hr test would not be enough to overcome such serious character flaws? Consider the tone of your words before you decide to write. It's pretty clear that what you're doing now is not working, at any rate

lmao, this has got to be a troll post

There was NOTHING wrong with what Lightworks wrote. Based on LSN, anyone has the right to be stunned when rejected with those numbers. Grow up, and let's move on.

I don't think LSN accounts for arrogance, a sense of entitlement, or any other noble trait that he's displayed so far on this public forum.

[Lightworks]

I'm still trying to figure out why tincan freaked on that statement.

I guess it's fair to say I overreacted, but I was responding to all of Lightworks' posts, not just this one.

I'm also a reapplicant who turned down scholarships from schools (albeit significantly lower ranked ones) to retake the LSAT and gain work experience. I guess what bugged me is that the majority of applicants to any particular school get rejected, so saying that you're "stunned" to be rejected implies that other dinged applicants should be less disappointed than you are. Rejection sucks regardless of where you land on law school predictor.

I can understand what you're saying, but from my own experience, it hurts a lot more to be rejected by a school that by all available evidence should be a safety based on your numbers (that's not arrogance, that's just the data), than by one that is a reach by that same set of evidence. If (I really mean when) Harvard rejects/WLs me, it's not going to bother me at all. I'd have to be incredibly lucky to get in there. My stats and resume are not Harvard-good, and I know it.

If a 4.0/180 said they were "stunned" to be rejected by Columbia, I'd completely understand. That's not arrogance on their part. It would be legitimately shocking based on available evidence. If I got rejected by Columbia? Not that big a deal. I know I'm borderline.

*I'm not even going to bother responding to that other post.

[nickhalden]

I don't think LSN accounts for arrogance, a sense of entitlement, or any other noble trait that he's displayed so far on this public forum.

Wow. I thought we were a supportive community of intelligent people who understand and appreciate the emotional swings of this process. We are here to share in the emotional highs of acceptances and commiserate in the emotional depths of rejections. The anonymity of TLS is obviously deceptive, but it fosters a sense that you are free to be transparent about your thoughts and feelings. Let's encourage that, not attack it.

[RhymesLikeDimes]

I don't think LSN accounts for arrogance, a sense of entitlement, or any other noble trait that he's displayed so far on this public forum.

Wow. I thought we were a supportive community of intelligent people who understand and appreciate the emotional swings of this process. We are here to share in the emotional highs of acceptances and commiserate in the emotional depths of rejections. The anonymity of TLS is obviously deceptive, but it fosters a sense that you are free to be transparent about your thoughts and feelings. Let's encourage that, not attack it.

The fact that they clearly made another account just to post that crap makes it even worse. If we can't post about being disappointed without getting attacked, I don't want to be here.

I was stunned to see Lightworks get rejected, what does that make me?

[pushsum123]

I don't think LSN accounts for arrogance, a sense of entitlement, or any other noble trait that he's displayed so far on this public forum.

Wow. I thought we were a supportive community of intelligent people who understand and appreciate the emotional swings of this process. We are here to share in the emotional highs of acceptances and commiserate in the emotional depths of rejections. The anonymity of TLS is obviously deceptive, but it fosters a sense that you are free to be transparent about your thoughts and feelings. Let's encourage that, not attack it.

The fact that they clearly made another account just to post that crap makes it even worse. If we can't post about being disappointed without getting attacked, I don't want to be here.

I was stunned to see Lightworks get rejected, what does that make me?

It's one thing to be disappointed or sad about a rejection, but it is quite another to be "stunned" by a rejection because of a sense of entitlement to admission. Do you think UVA wants to be the plan b of a person like that?

[RhymesLikeDimes]

I don't think LSN accounts for arrogance, a sense of entitlement, or any other noble trait that he's displayed so far on this public forum.

Wow. I thought we were a supportive community of intelligent people who understand and appreciate the emotional swings of this process. We are here to share in the emotional highs of acceptances and commiserate in the emotional depths of rejections. The anonymity of TLS is obviously deceptive, but it fosters a sense that you are free to be transparent about your thoughts and feelings. Let's encourage that, not attack it.

The fact that they clearly made another account just to post that crap makes it even worse. If we can't post about being disappointed without getting attacked, I don't want to be here.

I was stunned to see Lightworks get rejected, what does that make me?

It's one thing to be disappointed or sad about a rejection, but it is quite another to be "stunned" by a rejection because of a sense of entitlement to admission. Do you think UVA wants to be the plan b of a person like that?

Just ignore this clown, Lightworks. He/she is an idiot. We can only hope this person doesn't become our classmate.

[North]

Did you guys get lost on the way to the GULC thread? Chill out.

[Auxilio]

Rejection sucks regardless of where you land on law school predictor.

Truf.

I would not agree with that statement at all. I got my Yale rejection the other day and just laughed at it (despite having a not unreasonable chance at getting in) meanwhile I am actively frustrated with Columbia (not that they have rejected me yet, just because I have not heard anything) but if I were to get a rejection from them I would be much more upset than I was with Yale. You build up an expectation and it will naturally upset you more.

Especially when you consider if you know your numbers are good enough, it means they are rejecting you because of one of the personal aspects of your application. Being rejected by the numbers is one thing, but it is more personal if it is not.

[RhymesLikeDimes]

Completely agree with Auxilio. I'm a splitter, so when schools like Chicago or Berkeley WL'd me, that didn't bother me at all. Now, if a splitter-friendly school like Northwestern were to ding me, that would be devastating.

If anything, it shows far more entitlement to be upset that schools reject you when your numbers are borderline or worse. If a 2.7/160 is "stunned" to be rejected by Cornell, that's entitlement. If a 3.65/174 feels the same way, that's perfectly understandable to anyone above the level of an internet troll.

[Lightworks]

Just to clarify, UVA was never "Plan B". I live near Ithaca, so Cornell was geographically much more convenient, but UVA was always a school I was very interested in.

[pushsum123]

Completely agree with Auxilio. I'm a splitter, so when schools like Chicago or Berkeley WL'd me, that didn't bother me at all. Now, if a splitter-friendly school like Northwestern were to ding me, that would be devastating.

If anything, it shows far more entitlement to be upset that schools reject you when your numbers are borderline or worse. If a 2.7/160 is "stunned" to be rejected by Cornell, that's entitlement. If a 3.65/174 feels the same way, that's perfectly understandable to anyone above the level of an internet troll.

Anyone who expects to be admitted to a T14 school and then feels offended when he is rejected has a sense of entitlement. No school is bound to accept you. And no, having been accepted in a previous year does not obligate a school to extend that offer once again. And no, LSN data do not serve as confirmation that you will be admitted. Auxilio has it right: when your numbers are there and you get a rejection, it probably means that you have really left a bad impression on whoever read your file. It's probably more productive to think about how your tone of writing is perceived by the lawyers who work in most T14 admissions offices rather than to take solace in knowing that other entitled TLSers see nothing wrong with your arrogance.

[Lightworks]

Completely agree with Auxilio. I'm a splitter, so when schools like Chicago or Berkeley WL'd me, that didn't bother me at all. Now, if a splitter-friendly school like Northwestern were to ding me, that would be devastating.

If anything, it shows far more entitlement to be upset that schools reject you when your numbers are borderline or worse. If a 2.7/160 is "stunned" to be rejected by Cornell, that's entitlement. If a 3.65/174 feels the same way, that's perfectly understandable to anyone above the level of an internet troll.

Anyone who expects to be admitted to a T14 school and then feels offended when he is rejected has a sense of entitlement. No school is bound to accept you. And no, having been accepted in a previous year does not obligate a school to extend that offer once again. And no, LSN data do not serve as confirmation that you will be admitted. Auxilio has it right: when your numbers are there and you get a rejection, it probably means that you have really left a bad impression on whoever read your file. It's probably more productive to think about how your tone of writing is perceived by the lawyers who work in most T14 admissions offices rather than to take solace in knowing that other entitled TLSers see nothing wrong with your arrogance.

I was not "offended", and I never suggested anything of the sort. I was simply very disappointed.

I never said they were "obligated" to extend another offer. I thought that submitting the same application (the only differences being an additional LSAT point and another year of work experience) that got me accepted with a generous scholarship offer the year before was likely to produce a similar result the following year. I don't think that is at all unreasonable.

Your entire argument is based on twisting my words into something that does not even begin to resemble what I actually said. If you would like to continue this argument, PM me. I'm sure the board doesn't want to read any more of this.

[swampman]

Did you guys get lost on the way to the GULC thread? Chill out.

[RhymesLikeDimes]

Good rule of thumb going forward: If you wouldn't post it with your real account, don't post it at all. Then we could avoid sequences like this.

[pushsum123]

Good rule of thumb going forward: If you wouldn't post it with your real account, don't post it at all. Then we could avoid sequences like this.

An even better rule would be not to be entitled or arrogant, or at least not to reveal those traits in posts on a public forum.

[Lightworks]

Look. I made the "stunned" comment minutes after receiving the email. I was crushed at the time. Could I have used a better word? Sure. And if I had known a poster was going to derail this entire topic with a personal attack over the difference in entitlement-level between being "very disappointed" and "stunned", I certainly would have.

[ballcaps]

Just want to point out that repeatedly saying that you are "stunned" to be rejected or "need" to be accepted to a top 10 law school comes off as pretty shockingly arrogant / entitled. The LSAT is important and congrats on your fantastic score, but it shouldn't guarantee admission anywhere.

tool

If you came across as desperate, whiny, entitled, and arrogant in your applications as you do on here, then it's pretty clear why Cornell and Michigan would ding you. They'd probably be thankful that you decided to sit out last year. What about you makes you such a desirable candidate, so worthy of admission to the top law schools that you're positively "stunned" to have been rejected? Is it your LSAT score? Can you see how a good mark on a 3 hr test would not be enough to overcome such serious character flaws? Consider the tone of your words before you decide to write. It's pretty clear that what you're doing now is not working, at any rate

huge tool

Just got a stunning rejection from Cornell, and now UVA is my top choice. Would it be okay to submit a Why UVA? three months after going Complete?

sorry, bro. i'd totally write one.

[universityof]

This got weird. See what you're doing to us, Virginia?