Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle) Forum

[nametaken]

FYI, I just called about my April 2 deadline and was told to send an email letting the admissions office know.

[whenwin]

1. If you are facing a looming financial aid or scholarship deadline (and schools ethically shouldn't be giving you these before April 1), you can email us at admissions.law@yale.edu with your name, LSAC number, the scholarship, and the deadline, and we will make a note of it. While we cannot expedite a review of your application, we can make sure you receive a notification as fast as possible once a decision is made, or at least give you a time frame in which you can expect a decision, so that you can ask for an extension of the deadline, if possible. (Note that we do verify the scholarship/deadline, so please don't make something up). We will usually get back to you a couple of days before your deadline, so you don't need to keep emailing if you don't get an immediate response -- we're working on it.

[Byzantine]

Called Yale cause I got an exploding scholarship. They said I was still being evaluated, but they said to call before the deadline and they'd try to get an answer by then.

Vandy?

Yeah. You?

I have one at Gtown. Yale seems to be less than considerate when it comes to timing. You must really like Nashville to be considering Vandy with your options.

Yeah I'm from Nashville, would love to practice there, and the scholly is really, really good. So it's a hard call.

[holmesy87]

From their Twitter just now :

We're working on getting decisions made as quickly as possible. Admission offers are going out all week.

[nametaken]

From their Twitter just now :

We're working on getting decisions made as quickly as possible. Admission offers are going out all week.

aaaannd I'll be glued to my phone for the rest of the week

[Elliott_Smith]

From the blog:

"We are expecting to have all (initial) offers of admission finalized this week, so a few more people will be hearing from us shortly!"

Yikes.

[Twit]

Other tweets from @ylsadmissions:

@ylsadmissions We're working on getting decisions made as quickly as possible. Admission offers are going out all week.

@ylsadmissions As a reminder, unless you applied ED, you can't be forced to withdraw your applications to schools from which you are awaiting decisions.

@ylsadmissions Scholarship Deadlines: Truth is Power - --LinkRemoved--

[Byzantine]

From their Twitter just now :

We're working on getting decisions made as quickly as possible. Admission offers are going out all week.

aaaannd I'll be glued to my phone for the rest of the week

Yale I want you so bad

[phl516]

From the blog:

"We are expecting to have all (initial) offers of admission finalized this week, so a few more people will be hearing from us shortly!"

Yikes.

That blog is actually a year old. Funny, I was going to re-post it here. Asha is clearly reading this thread. Hi!

[nametaken]

From their Twitter just now :

We're working on getting decisions made as quickly as possible. Admission offers are going out all week.

aaaannd I'll be glued to my phone for the rest of the week

Yale I want you so bad

SOO so bad

[Byzantine]

From the blog:

"We are expecting to have all (initial) offers of admission finalized this week, so a few more people will be hearing from us shortly!"

Yikes.

That blog is actually a year old. Funny, I was going to re-post it here. Asha is clearly reading this thread. Hi!

That's exactly what I thought, at which point I redacted all the obscenities I was going to post. damn I wanna go to yale

[Elliott_Smith]

From the blog:

"We are expecting to have all (initial) offers of admission finalized this week, so a few more people will be hearing from us shortly!"

Yikes.

That blog is actually a year old. Funny, I was going to re-post it here. Asha is clearly reading this thread. Hi!

AHHHHHHHHH

Well.

I may or may not be losing my mind here.

[nametaken]

Other tweets from @ylsadmissions:

@ylsadmissions We're working on getting decisions made as quickly as possible. Admission offers are going out all week.

@ylsadmissions As a reminder, unless you applied ED, you can't be forced to withdraw your applications to schools from which you are awaiting decisions.

@ylsadmissions Scholarship Deadlines: Truth is Power - --LinkRemoved--

This is all very good to know. Even though I'm still not sure if I want to piss off the "other school" by not listening to them...

[freestallion]

Other tweets from @ylsadmissions:

@ylsadmissions We're working on getting decisions made as quickly as possible. Admission offers are going out all week.

@ylsadmissions As a reminder, unless you applied ED, you can't be forced to withdraw your applications to schools from which you are awaiting decisions.

@ylsadmissions Scholarship Deadlines: Truth is Power - --LinkRemoved--

This is all very good to know. Even though I'm still not sure if I want to piss off the "other school" by not listening to them...

Wait, I am really confused. Does this mean for exploding scholarships (e.g. the NYU named full-rides) where you get only 3 days to decide, you actually *do not* have to withdraw from schools you have not heard from??

[soj]

Wait, I am really confused. Does this mean for exploding scholarships (e.g. the NYU named full-rides) where you get only 3 days to decide, you actually *do not* have to withdraw from schools you have not heard from??

No, you don't. You have to withdraw if you've been admitted, but if you haven't heard back or have been waitlisted, you don't have to withdraw when you commit elsewhere.

[Geneva]

Is it crazy that as thrilled as I am about Stanford, I'm still dreaming about Yale?

[freestallion]

Wait, I am really confused. Does this mean for exploding scholarships (e.g. the NYU named full-rides) where you get only 3 days to decide, you actually *do not* have to withdraw from schools you have not heard from??

No, you don't. You have to withdraw if you've been admitted, but if you haven't heard back or have been waitlisted, you don't have to withdraw when you commit elsewhere.

Very interesting. The schools should be more upfront about this, but I just read over the contract you have to sign and you're right. Thank you!

[westbayguy]

FROM ASK ASHA ON THE YLS WEBSITE

http://blogs.law.yale.edu/blogs/admissi ... power.aspx

Scholarship Deadlines: Truth is Power
Originally posted April 6, 2011.

In my last post, I referenced some law schools' practice of giving "exploding" scholarship offers, requiring students to accept a major, full-tuition scholarship offer within a matter of days. Well, as usual, we've been inundated in the past few days with panicked applicants with these offers, who have not yet heard from us and are for some reason under the impression that by accepting such a scholarship, they will need to withdraw their applications from Yale.

Now I am sure it has not been any law school's intention to mislead you, but this is where you can start honing your lawyerly skills by carefully reading what your offer says and doesn't say. You see, believe it or not, as law applicants you have some rights, of sorts. Specifically, the Law School Admission Council publishes a Statement of Good Admission and Financial Aid Practices, by which all member schools agree to abide. If you read the Statement carefully, you will see that item number 6 under "Application Procedures" states the following:

After April 1, except under binding early decision plans, every accepted applicant should be free to accept a new offer from a law school even though a scholarship has been accepted, a deposit has been paid, or a committment [sic] has been made to another school. To provide applicants with an uncoerced choice among various law schools, no excessive nonrefundable deposit should be required solely to maintain a place in the class. (Emphasis added.)

What that means, 203 readers, is that you may accept a scholarship offer -- even one that requires you to place a deposit, sign a contract, or make some other symbolic gesture of commitment -- and still keep active any applications at schools from which you have not yet received a decision. Further, if you subsequently receive an offer from one of these other law schools, you may accept that offer, any prior commitments notwithstanding.

I will add that my understanding of this portion of the Statement is that it extends to offers made off the wait list. That is, if you are placed on a wait list at a law school, you may remain on that school's wait list even if you have deposited or accepted a scholarship somewhere else -- because a wait list decision is neither an offer nor a rejection, it's effectively a "no decision." If at any point you are offered a spot off the waitlist, that would be a "new offer" that you are free to accept -- again, notwithstanding any scholarships you might have accepted at another law school.

Who knew?

I hope that this will help those of you facing some difficult choices as a result of not having heard from us yet. We are expecting to have all (initial) offers of admission finalized this week, so a few more people will be hearing from us shortly!

UPDATE: For more on reading the fine print in scholarship offers, check out this New York Times article by David Segal: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/busin ... gewanted=1

Posted: Apr 06 2011, 12:28 PM by asha | with 5 comment(s)
Filed under: Ask Asha, Applying, I'm In -- Now What?

[Twit]

Is it crazy that as thrilled as I am about Stanford, I'm still dreaming about Yale?

Nope. I'm in the exact same boat.

[brettashley]

This is some interesting info, you guys. I've been mildly freaking out over Chicago's April 15th deadline. The language on their website sounds like they really want you to withdraw all pending apps when you make the commitment, and I'm especially worried because I don't want my scholarship to disappear, but Asha's saying that you don't have to? I'm definitely gonna ask about this at Chicago's ASW.

[Elliott_Smith]

I believe Chicago has some unique set of policies about this - I can't remember which thread it was in.

[Elliott_Smith]

Rejection by email tonight

Oh well - long shot!

[chamuc]

Rejection email few mins ago. Frid morning in Vietnam - Thurs night EST.
Good luck to all!

[LSATDecimator]

Dinged via email one hour ago....

[abba12]

Just got the call from 203! (Well, it was on Wednesday, but I just got back to having easy Internet access.) I'm still trying to process everything. They actually gave me another call to match me with some students the next day and I was afraid they might want to rescind their offer!

For anyone interested, I submitted about a week before deadline and went complete on 2/13. Good luck to those still waiting!