Splitters in Limbo Forum

[mathis1490]

Am I the only one still waiting? Last misfit toy left on the island?

I got put on waitlists at like 8 schools, do I count?

I've only been waitlisted at 1 so far, accepted at 1, and every other school is like, "lol we decline to comment." (At least I'm pretty sure that's what they would say if they were telling me anything.)

Even a ding or 2 from my reaches to put me out my misery would be a relief at this point.

I'm at 3 WLs, 3 dings, and still waiting on 5 schools...

I'm out at Berkeley and Yale, in at UVA, and still waiting to hear from Stanford, Harvard, Columbia, NYU and Northwestern. On the WL at Chicago, Penn, Duke, Michigan and Cornell.

I don't think I'm in "limbo," but I still feel like it will be a while before I know where I will be next fall.

I feel you Dr.

Out at Stanford, Berkeley, and Cornell
In at UCLA and USC
WL at Chicago, Penn, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown
Under review at Harvard, Columbia, NYU, UVA, and Duke

[sjp200]

I feel you Dr.

Out at Stanford, Berkeley, and Cornell
In at UCLA and USC
WL at Chicago, Penn, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown
Under review at Harvard, Columbia, NYU, UVA, and Duke

What dem stats at?

[osgiliath]

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[mathis1490]

I feel you Dr.

Out at Stanford, Berkeley, and Cornell
In at UCLA and USC
WL at Chicago, Penn, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown
Under review at Harvard, Columbia, NYU, UVA, and Duke

What dem stats at?

PMed you

[sjp200]

I feel you Dr.

Out at Stanford, Berkeley, and Cornell
In at UCLA and USC
WL at Chicago, Penn, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown
Under review at Harvard, Columbia, NYU, UVA, and Duke

What dem stats at?

PMed you

GULC has wronged you in the worst kinda way. The other ones I can make a reasonable attempt at justifying but not GULC. For shame on them.

[mathis1490]

I feel you Dr.

Out at Stanford, Berkeley, and Cornell
In at UCLA and USC
WL at Chicago, Penn, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown
Under review at Harvard, Columbia, NYU, UVA, and Duke

What dem stats at?

PMed you

GULC has wronged you in the worst kinda way. The other ones I can make a reasonable attempt at justifying but not GULC. For shame on them.

They gon' learn.

[Lexaholik]

For those of you who stressed out about waiting to hear back, know that the wait is just as bad on your competition. The biggest rewards and biggest moves from schools comes really in the late summer when law schools realize they need to fill extra spots, and most candidates have already made their plans to go to other schools. I actually wrote a guest post on Mike Spivey's blog about why getting on the waitlist can be good news for borderline candidates.

[BirdLawExpert]

For those of you who stressed out about waiting to hear back, know that the wait is just as bad on your competition. The biggest rewards and biggest moves from schools comes really in the late summer when law schools realize they need to fill extra spots, and most candidates have already made their plans to go to other schools. I actually wrote a guest post on Mike Spivey's blog about why getting on the waitlist can be good news for borderline candidates.

Thanks for the encouragement both here and in that post! As a fellow sub-3.0 GPA applicant, I wish I had known about your story before I applied, I honestly thought that consultants were for people applying to HLS only and I probably would have benefitted greatly from using a resource like that.

[tsujimoto74]

Well, got a 3rd decision today. Placed on "Reserve" at Columbia. Pleasantly surprised it wasn't a ding, tbh.

[Lexaholik]

For those of you who stressed out about waiting to hear back, know that the wait is just as bad on your competition. The biggest rewards and biggest moves from schools comes really in the late summer when law schools realize they need to fill extra spots, and most candidates have already made their plans to go to other schools. I actually wrote a guest post on Mike Spivey's blog about why getting on the waitlist can be good news for borderline candidates.

Thanks for the encouragement both here and in that post! As a fellow sub-3.0 GPA applicant, I wish I had known about your story before I applied, I honestly thought that consultants were for people applying to HLS only and I probably would have benefitted greatly from using a resource like that.

You're very welcome. Consultants are really there as a cross-check to make sure you don't have any glaring issues or mistakes. The more informed you are, the more you'll feel like hiring a consultant is wasting money. However they are still valuable because you're paying a highly experienced resource to double check your work. And they can give you really good perspective because it's really easy to make bad decisions (such as dropping off the waitlist prematurely) without a sound advisor next to you.

For people who are thinking about hiring a consultant, who you hire matters a lot. I hired an expensive consultant years ago and have no regrets because they gave me the peace of mind I wanted. However, in retrospect the consultant was extremely pessimistic about my chances of getting into a top school and suggested I look into other careers. If I had believed every word, I might not have even gone to law school. So who you hire matters, and you do have to take their advice with a grain of salt.

[drblakedowns]

I was curious, so I decided to try and get an idea of how many splitters there actually are. Based on the self reported LSN data, applicants with LSAT > 171 and GPA < 3.6 GPA make up only about 7% (527 out of 7513) of those who applied to T14 schools 2010 to present (I based my cutoffs on the ave 75th LSAT, 25th GPA for T14).

I also looked at the schools I haven't heard from.

SLS: 10% of the splitters got in or WL
HLS: 24% of the splitters got in or WL
Columbia: 58% of the splitters got in or WL
NYU: 68% of the splitters got in or WL

[capricasixx]

I was curious, so I decided to try and get an idea of how many splitters there actually are. Based on the self reported LSN data, applicants with LSAT > 171 and GPA < 3.6 GPA make up only about 7% (527 out of 7513) of those who applied to T14 schools 2010 to present (I based my cutoffs on the ave 75th LSAT, 25th GPA for T14).

I also looked at the schools I haven't heard from.

SLS: 10% of the splitters got in or WL
HLS: 24% of the splitters got in or WL
Columbia: 58% of the splitters got in or WL
NYU: 68% of the splitters got in or WL

This is very interesting data indeed! I would imagine the results would be even more encouraging looking below the T14

[mysojuli]

When do you think is the latest I should expect to hear back?

Most deposits are April 15th..soo lets say Cornell accepts me April 18th that seems a bit pointless.

My worst fear is that on April 14th I will be flooded with accepts (hahah good and bad fear) and then I will be forced to deposit with 1 day of thinking lol

[BirdLawExpert]

Did anyone else just get an email from Wake Forest about an extended application deadline that led with the salutation, "Dear JD Prospects 161 & Above"?

Not that they shouldn't want those students, but there's no way they meant for that to be the actual salutation, right? "Dear Faceless Number, we here at Wake Forest would really love it if you applied so we can get ahold of that juicy, delicious standardized test. We're sure you're a great person, but that test got me feeling some kinda way"

[lawyersHATEhim]

Did anyone else just get an email from Wake Forest about an extended application deadline that led with the salutation, "Dear JD Prospects 161 & Above"?

Not that they shouldn't want those students, but there's no way they meant for that to be the actual salutation, right? "Dear Faceless Number, we here at Wake Forest would really love it if you applied so we can get ahold of that juicy, delicious standardized test. We're sure you're a great person, but that test got me feeling some kinda way"

Yes and they did so "in light of the new USNWR rankings." Por que?

[BirdLawExpert]

Did anyone else just get an email from Wake Forest about an extended application deadline that led with the salutation, "Dear JD Prospects 161 & Above"?

Not that they shouldn't want those students, but there's no way they meant for that to be the actual salutation, right? "Dear Faceless Number, we here at Wake Forest would really love it if you applied so we can get ahold of that juicy, delicious standardized test. We're sure you're a great person, but that test got me feeling some kinda way"

Yes and they did so "in light of the new USNWR rankings." Por que?

I think it's because they moved up 7 spots to 40, while UNC moved down 4 to 38. Basically I think that email was targeted specifically to poach potential students who want to attend law school in the NC area, but didn't get into Duke, saw the 13 spots between UNC and Wake, and assumed UNC was an objectively better option.

[splitterfromhell]

Did anyone else just get an email from Wake Forest about an extended application deadline that led with the salutation, "Dear JD Prospects 161 & Above"?

Not that they shouldn't want those students, but there's no way they meant for that to be the actual salutation, right? "Dear Faceless Number, we here at Wake Forest would really love it if you applied so we can get ahold of that juicy, delicious standardized test. We're sure you're a great person, but that test got me feeling some kinda way"

Got this too, haha. That happens to be Wake's median score. No way that was intentional.

[BirdLawExpert]

Did anyone else just get an email from Wake Forest about an extended application deadline that led with the salutation, "Dear JD Prospects 161 & Above"?

Not that they shouldn't want those students, but there's no way they meant for that to be the actual salutation, right? "Dear Faceless Number, we here at Wake Forest would really love it if you applied so we can get ahold of that juicy, delicious standardized test. We're sure you're a great person, but that test got me feeling some kinda way"

Got this too, haha. That happens to be Wake's median score. No way that was intentional.

I mean, it's a fantastic strategy given how thoroughly they closed the gap between UNC and themselves. They're definitely trying to capitalize on that momentum and surpass them in next year's rankings.

[drblakedowns]

When do you think is the latest I should expect to hear back?

Most deposits are April 15th..soo lets say Cornell accepts me April 18th that seems a bit pointless.

My worst fear is that on April 14th I will be flooded with accepts (hahah good and bad fear) and then I will be forced to deposit with 1 day of thinking lol

It seems like May is when schools move from regular admit to looking at Waitlists, so I think most schools will make their initial decision (at worst) by mid to late April. I am not sure what would be expected if you are offered admission the day before the seat deposit. Worst case scenario, you have decided beforehand that you will only go to school X if you get Y amount of money, and you are being asked to drop a deposit before knowing if you are getting a scholarship. In that situation, I would call the admissions office, and hope that they will understand your situation, be reasonable, and give you the info or time to make the decision.

[crystallize]

When do you think is the latest I should expect to hear back?

Most deposits are April 15th..soo lets say Cornell accepts me April 18th that seems a bit pointless.

My worst fear is that on April 14th I will be flooded with accepts (hahah good and bad fear) and then I will be forced to deposit with 1 day of thinking lol

It seems like May is when schools move from regular admit to looking at Waitlists, so I think most schools will make their initial decision (at worst) by mid to late April. I am not sure what would be expected if you are offered admission the day before the seat deposit. Worst case scenario, you have decided beforehand that you will only go to school X if you get Y amount of money, and you are being asked to drop a deposit before knowing if you are getting a scholarship. In that situation, I would call the admissions office, and hope that they will understand your situation, be reasonable, and give you the info or time to make the decision.

I had a friend last cycle ask for an extension on her deposit deadline and they were very accommodating. Doesn't hurt to ask

[ohthatjenn]

Being a splitter, I should've applied early in the cycle... omgggggggg this waiting game is harder than I thought

[DAFFODILS2019]

Am I the only one still waiting? Last misfit toy left on the island?

I got put on waitlists at like 8 schools, do I count?

I've only been waitlisted at 1 so far, accepted at 1, and every other school is like, "lol we decline to comment." (At least I'm pretty sure that's what they would say if they were telling me anything.)

Even a ding or 2 from my reaches to put me out my misery would be a relief at this point.

I'm at 3 WLs, 3 dings, and still waiting on 5 schools...

I'm out at Berkeley and Yale, in at UVA, and still waiting to hear from Stanford, Harvard, Columbia, NYU and Northwestern. On the WL at Chicago, Penn, Duke, Michigan and Cornell.

I don't think I'm in "limbo," but I still feel like it will be a while before I know where I will be next fall.

I feel you Dr.

Out at Stanford, Berkeley, and Cornell
In at UCLA and USC
WL at Chicago, Penn, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown
Under review at Harvard, Columbia, NYU, UVA, and Duke

Did you have any interview with Cornell? Could you share your stats with me? Much appreciated!

[berek]

How's everyone holding up?? I'm not in full limbo, but still going absolutely bananas while waiting for my final decisions (Penn, Chicago, Harvard and NYU). Splitter solidarity forever.

[capricasixx]

How's everyone holding up?? I'm not in full limbo, but still going absolutely bananas while waiting for my final decisions (Penn, Chicago, Harvard and NYU). Splitter solidarity forever.

Still waiting on decisions from my top two choices (UCLA/USC). Then if those don't pan out, I still have many more months of the waitlist game ahead (UW, Hastings, and Loyola). But at least we're still in the game!

[davey jones]

you know, normally i think limbo is a good time