Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist Forum

[Mack.Hambleton]

Roughly when did JS1 for waitlisters go out last year

Beginning of May.

Thanks

[hermione1000]

Roughly when did JS1 for waitlisters go out last year

Beginning of May.

Thanks

do those who have already had JS1s get earlier decisions? or are they higher up on WL?

[Eladriel]

do those who have already had JS1s get earlier decisions? or are they higher up on WL?

Earliest Report of a WL ----> JS1 was May 6, 2014:

Js1 guys!!!

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=425

And as for your second question, anything more than what Pylon said would require inside info:

*Re-posted here from the Applicant thread

Once again sorry/congrats to those who were WL'd these past few days!

Here is some information I hope you find useful, gathered from last-years thread. This gives some insight into the differences of WL before or after a JS1.

In 2013-14, there were 101 WL reported on TLS. Of these, 63 had not received JS1s prior to the WL, whereas 38 had already received JS1s.

Complete -> WL
Of the 63 reported, 22 received JS1s and 12 of those then received JS2s. Only 3 reported outright rejections. So, 35% received JS1s, and in total, 19% received JS2s. However of those that received JS1s, 55% eventually received JS2s.

Complete -> JS1 -> WL
Of the 38 reported WL who already had JS1s, 10 received JS2s. Only 3 reported outright rejections. For this group, 26% received acceptances.

Most individuals who ended up getting accepted off the WL found out in mid-to-late May, however acceptances did trickle out throughout the summer until August.

[Mack.Hambleton]

Eek I don't want to wait until May

[MustaphaMond]

Eek I don't want to wait until May

+1

[kadyevna]

ugh these js2 waves are tough to sit through from the wl...

Couldn't agree more

precisely

[FloridaCoastalorbust]

ugh these js2 waves are tough to sit through from the wl...

Couldn't agree more

precisely

totes

[Eladriel]

totes

From last year's thread:

just decided i am fighting this waitlist hard

Also just booked my ticket on this boat.

Okay, now that I'm on the boat: what does fighting the waitlist hard mean?

i'm going to try to write the best loci ever written

Challenge accepted

Take heart and hold onto your resolve.

[mimiquestionmark]

Checking in on the WL train!

Are any of you fantasizing about ways to dramatically increase the strength of your application in the next 30 days lol I'm a KJD so I'm investigating fancy summer jobs to maybe nail down some more WE. Any of y'all have similar plans?

[GoneSouth]

Thoughts on whether you should include the text of your LOCI in the body of an email or format it like a cover letter and attach it separately?

[Mack.Hambleton]

Thoughts on whether you should include the text of your LOCI in the body of an email or format it like a cover letter and attach it separately?

no LOCI is TCR so idk

[Eladriel]

Earliest Report of a WL ----> JS1 was May 6, 2014:

Js1 guys!!!

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=425

First WL ----> JS2 occurred May 15, 2014:

JS2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JS1 12/20, JS1b on Tuesday, Numbers in the spreadsheet under Dawg.

Almost half a year in waiting, but it is totally worth it. Good luck to the ppl in this thread!!!!!

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=700

And the movement we saw in 2014 was early compared to 2013. So it looks like we're waiting until May for anything.

[Mack.Hambleton]

whats js1b

[GoneSouth]

Thoughts on whether you should include the text of your LOCI in the body of an email or format it like a cover letter and attach it separately?

no LOCI is TCR so idk

Yeah but I actually have something good to add in to my file, so I'm writing one.

[Eladriel]

whats js1b

JS1b: A phone call from Jessica Soban or Karen Buttenbaum, generally later in the process, clarifying continued interest in attending Harvard Law. Often goes to people who have been held or waitlisted.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 7&t=214072

I saw a better definition in the HLS 2017 WL thread and am still looking for it.

Edit: Found it:

Noob question: What is a JS1-B?

It's a phone call waitlisted applicants (I think only those who had a pre-WL interview) get the day or so before being admitted. It's done for yield protection purposes, and basically if you suggest that you'll go to Harvard you get in

Word. Thank you. Any thoughts on whether the 24-hour homework is something of a replacement for the JS1-B? Did JS1's this week pretty uniformly get the "homework?"

I did. I'm probably going to get an F.

Draw - the "homework" is an email that we were asked to send within 24 hours stating whether or not we can commit right now to attending Harvard.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=475

[Wackyjack1215]

Hey guys,

Waitlisted last week and I am a reverse splitter, so I will be retaking the LSAT in june. What's your opinion on letting admissions know that I will be retaking?

Thx!

[Eladriel]

We owe a debt to LS22 and Draw from last year for explaining so much in the 2014 WL thread. For those of you too lazy to read it:

Do all JS2s off the WL receive a JS1b?

In last year's spreadsheet all but one person who reported a JS2 also reported a JS1b, while this cycle all who reported apre-WL JS1 ---> WL JS2 have had a JS1B .

There have been post-WL JS1s---->JS2s this cycle who reported getting in without the typical JS1b call, but they did have the 'homework' which is very similar.

So if we assume this year is like last year there are two paths to a JS2 off of the waitlist depending upon where you started:

1. JS1 ---> WL ---> JS1B ---> JS2

2. Straight to WL ---> JS1 ---> "homework" ---> JS2

[maroon175]

We owe a debt to LS22 and Draw from last year for explaining so much in the 2014 WL thread. For those of you too lazy to read it:

Do all JS2s off the WL receive a JS1b?

In last year's spreadsheet all but one person who reported a JS2 also reported a JS1b, while this cycle all who reported apre-WL JS1 ---> WL JS2 have had a JS1B .

There have been post-WL JS1s---->JS2s this cycle who reported getting in without the typical JS1b call, but they did have the 'homework' which is very similar.

So if we assume this year is like last year there are two paths to a JS2 off of the waitlist depending upon where you started:

1. JS1 ---> WL ---> JS1B ---> JS2

2. Straight to WL ---> JS1 ---> "homework" ---> JS2

Could someone please explain what the "homework" is?

[Mack.Hambleton]

Draw - the "homework" is an email that we were asked to send within 24 hours stating whether or not we can commit right now to attending Harvard.

[Eladriel]

Draw - the "homework" is an email that we were asked to send within 24 hours stating whether or not we can commit right now to attending Harvard.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=475

[middlebear]

Hey, does anyone have any insight into why people have different waitlist messages? I don't have any of that language about not sending stuff in.

[The thinker]

IIRC, OP was mistaken when saying the language of the waitlist email said not to send anything. It is just the general impression that Harvard doesnt need to know that you want to attend (because everyone wants to) but only cares if you have significant updates to your resume (new grades for KJDs, new job/promotion, publication, etc.)

[Auxilio]

Hey, does anyone have any insight into why people have different waitlist messages? I don't have any of that language about not sending stuff in.

The email did not include that message, but the page that came up when you completed the "survey" included it.

[grwfews4546]

Hello everybody, just checking in!

Applied late January and was waitlisted a few days ago during the big wave.

[clarita42]

Checking in! My status checker today finally changed to "Active on wait list."