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How many optional held essays did/will you do?

One
18
29%
Two
9
15%
Three
13
21%
Four
22
35%
 
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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by BaberhamLincoln » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:52 am

luuma wrote:=I meant sending a second LOCI. I submitted the first about a week ago before my interview on campus. Have you interviewed yet? I have a paralegal job with insane hours its taken me a bit longer. Sleep has become a privilege to say the least...
I interviewed on campus in January, hence I do not get a chance at a held interview. sad.
jacketyellow wrote: So, a LOCI is good to send at this point? I just thought that LOCIs shouldn't be sent until one is actually placed on the wait list. Plus, aren't the four essays our versions of a "LOCI?"
What do I know? I'm in the same boat as you guys. But I am doing everything I can as a held applicant to go from held --> accept instead of held --> waitlist

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by jacketyellow » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:56 am

How do we know everything has been submitted? Do we just upload and the essay is automatically submitted? Also, how do we find out our "statuses?"

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by rion91 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:22 pm

jacketyellow wrote:How do we know everything has been submitted? Do we just upload and the essay is automatically submitted? Also, how do we find out our "statuses?"
I would take that as long as it is in your portfolio, it is submitted. Calling to confirm or ask status would be overkill.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by Glasseyes » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:07 pm

jacketyellow wrote:How do we know everything has been submitted? Do we just upload and the essay is automatically submitted? Also, how do we find out our "statuses?"
If you log in a few hours after you upload the file, it will show you a preview of the file, which means it has been completely added to the portfolio. Or that's my understanding of their system, at least.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by jk148706 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:25 pm

Ready for some movement ....

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by rion91 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:35 am

I guess after 4 hold essays and a LOCI, the only thing that we can send is an LOR? Wonder if I should get one from my boss at work.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by jk148706 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:36 pm

Why didn't NU just WL us hold people? What is the point of having a hold vs WL ?

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by rion91 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:59 pm

jk148706 wrote:Why didn't NU just WL us hold people? What is the point of having a hold vs WL ?
Because some people will be admitted right off hold. Also, hold is a way to get more info out of the applicant pool to see if they want you vs. waitlisting where they know they want you but you have to wait.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by Attax » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:35 pm

jk148706 wrote:Why didn't NU just WL us hold people? What is the point of having a hold vs WL ?
I'd imagine holds would go to either the WL or accept, and probably not a flat out ding when we hear back. This may not be correct though, but otherwise I have no idea how it is different from the WL.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by jk148706 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:38 pm

rion91 wrote:Because some people will be admitted right off hold.

Yea, but people are admitted right off a WL. Several WLs have already seen movement.

rion91 wrote:Also, hold is a way to get more info out of the applicant pool to see if they want you vs. waitlisting where they know they want you but you have to wait.
Don't see how this is different from a WL

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by Attax » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:43 pm

jk148706 wrote:
rion91 wrote:Because some people will be admitted right off hold.

Yea, but people are admitted right off a WL. Several WLs have already seen movement.

rion91 wrote:Also, hold is a way to get more info out of the applicant pool to see if they want you vs. waitlisting where they know they want you but you have to wait.
Don't see how this is different from a WL
I think it means that we will go to either admit or the WL

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by ManoftheHour » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:43 pm

I'm pretty sure they're the same thing. For Cornell, WL is a death sentence. Almost nobody gets off the WL. But on their reserve list, people do get acceptances some time in June. The rest are transferred to the summer WL. Reserve is better than WL.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by rion91 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:51 pm

jk148706 wrote:
rion91 wrote:Because some people will be admitted right off hold.

Yea, but people are admitted right off a WL. Several WLs have already seen movement.

rion91 wrote:Also, hold is a way to get more info out of the applicant pool to see if they want you vs. waitlisting where they know they want you but you have to wait.
Don't see how this is different from a WL
You don't write those hold essays or have the opportunity to interview as a WL candidate. Edit: Think of it like a filter for the waitlist where they'll sort you into accepted, or ranked on WL, or denied.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by jacketyellow » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:54 pm

A decision of hold is definitely better. A hold just says that the admissions committee really likes you and wants the chance to admit you; they just want to know a little more about you.

Wait list decisions are worse since the committee really doesn't want you but WILL accept you if forced to accept you if or when the deposits are not coming in like that should be.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by gerrydawg » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:48 pm

But, have there been any WLs yet? If not, doesn't that mean that all of the WLs will come from the Hold pool?

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by janetdoe » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:43 pm

jk148706 wrote:Why didn't NU just WL us hold people? What is the point of having a hold vs WL ?
I'm not sure if anyone goes hold -> reject? It seems it's usually hold -> WL. So why the test, you mean? Perhaps to test the iffy #s people's commitment level. NU doesn't typically play YP games, and they haven't this year.
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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by janetdoe » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:51 pm

jacketyellow wrote:A decision of hold is definitely better. A hold just says that the admissions committee really likes you and wants the chance to admit you; they just want to know a little more about you.

Wait list decisions are worse since the committee really doesn't want you but WILL accept you if forced to accept you if or when the deposits are not coming in like that should be.
Unfortunately, this is incorrect. Actually, hold means no decision. It means they haven't made a decision, not that they really do or don't like the applicant/want to or don't want to admit the applicant. They're still comparing him/her to the rest of the pool. Sure, they probably don't dislike said applicant; there's a reason they weren't outright rejected. But just because they don't dislike someone doesn't mean they automatically like someone; that's a definite LSAT reasoning error we're all aware of. What the NU Adcomm do state publicly is that hold means they're not sure. Otherwise, they would have admitted said applicant already. This is not only what adcomm states, but also what Johann directly states in interviews.

WL is not worst... The holds later accepted I personally knew of went from Hold -> WL -> Accept. They were accepted right before school started. I'm sure such cases probably do exist, but the majority of cases are not Hold -> Accept. They're Hold -> WL -> whatever they ultimately decide.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by krnpridejk » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:13 pm

Just withdrew from NU, after having been Held since early March... I hated myself for not being able to wait, but I just couldn't...I'm done with this cycle!~ Here is to 3 yrs in Ithaca!
Any ways, best of luck to everyone else on Hold here~! :)

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by ender235 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:41 pm

Got held today. Unsure how to feel about this - especially given the recent discussion in this thread. I am guessing we do not have any solid numbers on held --> admit or total # of held applicants? It seems the pool of held applicants is fairly large.

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Post by knope34 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:53 pm

ender235 wrote:Got held today. Unsure how to feel about this - especially given the recent discussion in this thread. I am guessing we do not have any solid numbers on held --> admit or total # of held applicants? It seems the pool of held applicants is fairly large.

I got held today too, after having submitted my application in January. I assumed I was an auto-ding (reverse splitter) so I'm confused on why they even decided to put me on hold (not complaining though!). It seems like there are a lot of people being held right now...

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by Quan292 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:19 pm

Everytime someone tries to explain that a hold is different from a waitlist they sound more and more like the same thing.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by Glasseyes » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:50 pm

Quan292 wrote:Everytime someone tries to explain that a hold is different from a waitlist they sound more and more like the same thing.
There was a description floating around a while back, describing the difference like this:

Hold = we think we want you, and we'll give you another chance to prove yourself before making a final decision.
Waitlist = we might want you eventually. not now, but if some of these other folks don't work out, maybe.

And in many cases, hold leads directly to the waitlist anyway. The key is that it doesn't have to.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by janetdoe » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:52 pm

Glasseyes wrote:
Quan292 wrote:Everytime someone tries to explain that a hold is different from a waitlist they sound more and more like the same thing.
There was a description floating around a while back, describing the difference like this:

Hold = we think we want you, and we'll give you another chance to prove yourself before making a final decision.
Waitlist = we might want you eventually. not now, but if some of these other folks don't work out, maybe.

And in many cases, hold leads directly to the waitlist anyway. The key is that it doesn't have to.
Johann states this isn't the case. Hold means the entire class has not filled out. Waitlist means the class has filled out. Hence, why no one has been WL yet in NU's cycle / they have so many Holds. See my above description.

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by riverwater » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:03 pm

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Re: Held at Northwestern c/o 2017

Post by rion91 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:55 pm

riverwater wrote:
ender235 wrote:Got held today. Unsure how to feel about this - especially given the recent discussion in this thread. I am guessing we do not have any solid numbers on held --> admit or total # of held applicants? It seems the pool of held applicants is fairly large.
If NU is still holding applicants and not rejecting them, then I feel that holds have as good a chance this year as any other. If they had admitted way too many people as someone said a page or two back, why wouldn't they just reject the applicants they normally would have put on hold?
I'm pretty sure whoever started that rumor was just a 0L gunner

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