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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by mala2 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:28 pm

Capitol A wrote:Did you notice if that $60k total was for in v. out of state? At current in state tuition, $60k would be very close to a full ride. An offer like that would end my cycle completely. Speaking of which...Has anyone heard anything about how ASU is with negotiating scholly?
I'm just basing this on the self reported numbers here from last year in the school profile. It seemed like people with my numbers were getting about 20k a year, I don't think it matters in or out of state. yeah that pretty much takes care of tuition. I got my big blue folder, but no scholarship info or deposit info yet.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by org_chemist » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:32 pm

mala2 wrote:what is LSN? sorry if that's a dumb question. Yeah I'm hoping for 20k/yr at UofA too.
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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by seven889 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:35 pm

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by Capitol A » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:37 pm

mala2 wrote:
Capitol A wrote:Did you notice if that $60k total was for in v. out of state? At current in state tuition, $60k would be very close to a full ride. An offer like that would end my cycle completely. Speaking of which...Has anyone heard anything about how ASU is with negotiating scholly?
I'm just basing this on the self reported numbers here from last year in the school profile. It seemed like people with my numbers were getting about 20k a year, I don't think it matters in or out of state. yeah that pretty much takes care of tuition. I got my big blue folder, but no scholarship info or deposit info yet.
HMMM....Interesting...I would think in v. out of state would make a significant difference. I've seen someone on TLS from out of state say that they got $30k for their first year. That would be more than full tuition for in state.
I'm 165/3.6, in state, and I got $20k for 1L, $15k for 2L, nothing for 3L. If tuition stays stable (which I doubt it will), this would be enough to make me attend, even though I had already settled on W&M. That's why I was asking about their negotiation. I feel like I need just a little bit of money for 3L or at least some assurance that I won't be paying $35k for my third year.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by Capitol A » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:38 pm

mala2 wrote:
Capitol A wrote:Did you notice if that $60k total was for in v. out of state? At current in state tuition, $60k would be very close to a full ride. An offer like that would end my cycle completely. Speaking of which...Has anyone heard anything about how ASU is with negotiating scholly?
I'm just basing this on the self reported numbers here from last year in the school profile. It seemed like people with my numbers were getting about 20k a year, I don't think it matters in or out of state. yeah that pretty much takes care of tuition. I got my big blue folder, but no scholarship info or deposit info yet.
Forgot to mention, my blue folder included deposit and scholly info.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by mala2 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:47 pm

Capitol A wrote:
mala2 wrote:
Capitol A wrote:Did you notice if that $60k total was for in v. out of state? At current in state tuition, $60k would be very close to a full ride. An offer like that would end my cycle completely. Speaking of which...Has anyone heard anything about how ASU is with negotiating scholly?
I'm just basing this on the self reported numbers here from last year in the school profile. It seemed like people with my numbers were getting about 20k a year, I don't think it matters in or out of state. yeah that pretty much takes care of tuition. I got my big blue folder, but no scholarship info or deposit info yet.
HMMM....Interesting...I would think in v. out of state would make a significant difference. I've seen someone on TLS from out of state say that they got $30k for their first year. That would be more than full tuition for in state.
I'm 165/3.6, in state, and I got $20k for 1L, $15k for 2L, nothing for 3L. If tuition stays stable (which I doubt it will), this would be enough to make me attend, even though I had already settled on W&M. That's why I was asking about their negotiation. I feel like I need just a little bit of money for 3L or at least some assurance that I won't be paying $35k for my third year.
sorry I got off course and was talking about U of A. I haven't heard back from ASU yet (applied Feb1) I have similar numbers to you. It does look like what you got (declining every year) is pretty standard for ASU. You could always try to negotiate, if you tell them you'll definitely go if they can give you x that might work.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by Capitol A » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:51 pm

mala2 wrote:
Capitol A wrote:
mala2 wrote:
Capitol A wrote:Did you notice if that $60k total was for in v. out of state? At current in state tuition, $60k would be very close to a full ride. An offer like that would end my cycle completely. Speaking of which...Has anyone heard anything about how ASU is with negotiating scholly?
I'm just basing this on the self reported numbers here from last year in the school profile. It seemed like people with my numbers were getting about 20k a year, I don't think it matters in or out of state. yeah that pretty much takes care of tuition. I got my big blue folder, but no scholarship info or deposit info yet.
HMMM....Interesting...I would think in v. out of state would make a significant difference. I've seen someone on TLS from out of state say that they got $30k for their first year. That would be more than full tuition for in state.
I'm 165/3.6, in state, and I got $20k for 1L, $15k for 2L, nothing for 3L. If tuition stays stable (which I doubt it will), this would be enough to make me attend, even though I had already settled on W&M. That's why I was asking about their negotiation. I feel like I need just a little bit of money for 3L or at least some assurance that I won't be paying $35k for my third year.
sorry I got off course and was talking about U of A. I haven't heard back from ASU yet (applied Feb1) I have similar numbers to you. It does look like what you got (declining every year) is pretty standard for ASU. You could always try to negotiate, if you tell them you'll definitely go if they can give you x that might work.
Didn't realize you were talking about North Mexico State (sorry-ASU undergrad here). I sent an email pleading my case for more $, but if they handle that like they do apps, I think I'll be waiting a while.
Edit: I think I was confused because I thought UofA would give their scholarship offers in pesos.
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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by mala2 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:11 pm

haha let us know what they say!

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by hector311 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:09 pm

Capitol A wrote:
mala2 wrote:
Capitol A wrote:Did you notice if that $60k total was for in v. out of state? At current in state tuition, $60k would be very close to a full ride. An offer like that would end my cycle completely. Speaking of which...Has anyone heard anything about how ASU is with negotiating scholly?
I'm just basing this on the self reported numbers here from last year in the school profile. It seemed like people with my numbers were getting about 20k a year, I don't think it matters in or out of state. yeah that pretty much takes care of tuition. I got my big blue folder, but no scholarship info or deposit info yet.
HMMM....Interesting...I would think in v. out of state would make a significant difference. I've seen someone on TLS from out of state say that they got $30k for their first year. That would be more than full tuition for in state.
I'm 165/3.6, in state, and I got $20k for 1L, $15k for 2L, nothing for 3L. If tuition stays stable (which I doubt it will), this would be enough to make me attend, even though I had already settled on W&M. That's why I was asking about their negotiation. I feel like I need just a little bit of money for 3L or at least some assurance that I won't be paying $35k for my third year.
If you have success let me know! 165/3.92 full tuition 1L, 20k 2L, and NOTHING 3L.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by mala2 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:15 pm

hector311 wrote:
Capitol A wrote:
mala2 wrote:
Capitol A wrote:Did you notice if that $60k total was for in v. out of state? At current in state tuition, $60k would be very close to a full ride. An offer like that would end my cycle completely. Speaking of which...Has anyone heard anything about how ASU is with negotiating scholly?
I'm just basing this on the self reported numbers here from last year in the school profile. It seemed like people with my numbers were getting about 20k a year, I don't think it matters in or out of state. yeah that pretty much takes care of tuition. I got my big blue folder, but no scholarship info or deposit info yet.
HMMM....Interesting...I would think in v. out of state would make a significant difference. I've seen someone on TLS from out of state say that they got $30k for their first year. That would be more than full tuition for in state.
I'm 165/3.6, in state, and I got $20k for 1L, $15k for 2L, nothing for 3L. If tuition stays stable (which I doubt it will), this would be enough to make me attend, even though I had already settled on W&M. That's why I was asking about their negotiation. I feel like I need just a little bit of money for 3L or at least some assurance that I won't be paying $35k for my third year.
If you have success let me know! 165/3.92 full tuition 1L, 20k 2L, and NOTHING 3L.
that's just crazy to me, what they can't split it more evenly?

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by zonto » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:13 pm

So you don't pay boatloads of interest on loans from your first year or two. It's saving you money in the long run and actually quite smart.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by mala2 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:35 pm

I guess, it just seems tricky of them to lure you in with such a big number and then follow it with a big 0

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by Capitol A » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:46 pm

zonto wrote:So you don't pay boatloads of interest on loans from your first year or two. It's saving you money in the long run and actually quite smart.
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must not be that tricky. We figured it out.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by mala2 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:04 pm

I don't think that's their reason. I think their reason is to help recruiting. And your assumption rests on the idea that most/all law students take out loans that are unsubsidized. Maybe that's true, maybe not. I'm not going to be taking out any unsubsidized loans, so this set up would not save me tons of money.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by mepg » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:15 pm

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mepg wrote:Congratulations to everyone who been accepted so far! I am a 2L at ASU and am happy to answer any questions.

The way the scholarships are allotted is strange. They do it that way because of funding and how they set the budget, which I still don't quite understand.
I like it better than a 20k/yr. Would like it even more for 30k/yr for first 2 and nothing for the third year. Anything I can do to postpone debt is a positive thing. Also, there's always a chance you get a a sweet SA which will pay for your third year.
Actually, this is true. By front loading the scholarship, getting a job will help alleviate the financial burden. SA gigs in Phoenix are around $1500-$2000 a week.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by mepg » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:17 pm

Capitol A wrote:Did you notice if that $60k total was for in v. out of state? At current in state tuition, $60k would be very close to a full ride. An offer like that would end my cycle completely. Speaking of which...Has anyone heard anything about how ASU is with negotiating scholly?
You have nothing to lose by negotiating. The admissions staff is very nice. I do know of someone who successfully negotiated, so it can be done.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by mala2 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:17 pm

that's true, you can work later. that actually makes sense

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by mepg » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:21 pm

mala2 wrote:that's true, you can work later. that actually makes sense

Also, for some reason, their funding is just set up that way. I don't think they are trying to be sneaky with recruiting but just have a budget that centers around 2 years of scholarships, as opposed to 3.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by Burgstaller04 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:18 am

Does anybody have their packet nearby and mind telling me when ASU's ASW is? I'm trying to coordinate it with a trip to U of A's ASW, but I don't know if they are remotely close to each other.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by Capitol A » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:46 am

Burgstaller04 wrote:Does anybody have their packet nearby and mind telling me when ASU's ASW is? I'm trying to coordinate it with a trip to U of A's ASW, but I don't know if they are remotely close to each other.
I don't have mine if front of me, but I'm 90% sure its April 8.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by Burgstaller04 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:49 am

Capitol A wrote:
Burgstaller04 wrote:Does anybody have their packet nearby and mind telling me when ASU's ASW is? I'm trying to coordinate it with a trip to U of A's ASW, but I don't know if they are remotely close to each other.
I don't have mine if front of me, but I'm 90% sure its April 8.
Dang, Arizona's is the 16th. if they were on the same weekend...that would be the shit.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by hurricane10 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:59 am

I'm actually kind of mad about it.. I don't understand why a law school would have ASD that late. I really want to check out the school but all other schools I'm considering have scholarship deadlines on April 1, meaning I have to make my decision before ASU's ASD. Seems really dumb that they do that.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by Capitol A » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:02 am

hurricane10 wrote:I'm actually kind of mad about it.. I don't understand why a law school would have ASD that late. I really want to check out the school but all other schools I'm considering have scholarship deadlines on April 1, meaning I have to make my decision before ASU's ASD. Seems really dumb that they do that.
+1. Fortunately I live in Phoenix, so I'll be visiting ASU tomorrow; but you're right, if I want to attend ASDs before making my final decision I will have to deposit at more than one school. In the grand scheme of things $500 isn't all that much money-but that does not mean I'm willing to waste it. Hopefully this visit on Friday will help me finally make a decision and go with it.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by athenian » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:38 pm

Anyone know if it's possible to negotiate scholarship money with Arizona State?

I'd really like to go to ASU, but with my current scholly, it's not looking feasible.

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Re: Arizona State 2011

Post by Capitol A » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:49 pm

athenian wrote:Anyone know if it's possible to negotiate scholarship money with Arizona State?

I'd really like to go to ASU, but with my current scholly, it's not looking feasible.
I hope so, because I'm in the process of attempting. I have heard that is possible but not probable.

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