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Re: Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by mdnyc » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:44 pm

Olliedemars wrote:Okay, I'm going to float a conspiracy theory: the reason YLS has only had 1 rejection wave is because AdComm doesn't want it to be detectable 1. who made it to faculty review, and 2. who likely made it to FR but wasn't admitted. By releasing all decisions at once, it's impossible to suss out, through Internet chatter, who never made it to FR and who did, but unsuccessfully.

This lack of transparency might be useful if, say, FR tends to result in more males than women getting 11s/12s, or not enough URMs, or it turns out there's a faculty bias for folks from South Dakota, or Tauruses, or whatever. Even the appearance of any sort of preference is definitely to be avoided, and the 'all-in-one' rejection wave smooths out any conjecture as to the type of applicant that makes it to FR, makes it through FR, etc.

I don't necessarily believe this myself, but it's getting very difficult to come up with a logical reason for the radio silence. Their office must be getting inundated with bratty 'I got into Harvard and Columbia and don't you know that the deadlines' blah blah e-mails, and that seems reason enough to send out most decisions.
All complaining aside, I think we're just looking at a small office (it's just 2-3 people, I think) having to intensively deal with a lot of applications at one time. I've worked in admissions offices before that had a faculty review component, and it's a LOT of work to manage the paperwork and selection, especially when you're also dealing with all the questions and decisions of admitted students. Throw on top of that the need to very carefully manage yield and having no real obligation to dings, and you have most of the explanation for why things are taking a while.

Do I like that it's taking this long? No. Do I wish we had a bit more communication from them? Sure. But I don't think there's anything nefarious or manipulative going on.

Plus I HIGHLY doubt Asha cares what we think/know here, even if she's aware of it.
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Post by hopeful94 » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:45 pm

Olliedemars wrote:Okay, I'm going to float a conspiracy theory: the reason YLS has only had 1 rejection wave is because AdComm doesn't want it to be detectable 1. who made it to faculty review, and 2. who likely made it to FR but wasn't admitted. By releasing (nearly) all decisions at once, it's impossible to suss out, through Internet chatter, who never made it to FR and who did, but unsuccessfully.

This lack of transparency might be useful if, say, FR tends to result in more males than women getting 11s/12s, or not enough URMs, or it turns out there's a faculty bias for folks from South Dakota, or Tauruses, or whatever. Even the appearance of any sort of preference is definitely to be avoided, and the 'all-in-one' rejection wave means there's little evidence to form conjecture as to the type of applicant that makes it to FR, makes it through FR, etc.

I don't necessarily believe this myself, but it's getting very difficult to come up with a logical reason for the radio silence. Their office must be getting inundated with bratty 'I got into Harvard and Columbia and don't you know that the deadlines' blah blah e-mails, and that seems reason enough to send out most decisions.
Why is it bratty to have deadlines at comparable schools and want to make a decision based on all admissions outcomes? Or to express those circumstances to the committee so that you don't have to commit elsewhere and then withdraw and scramble if/when Yale finally decides to get back to applicants in limbo?

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Re: Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by Olliedemars » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:50 pm


Why is it bratty to have deadlines at comparable schools and want to make a decision based on all admissions outcomes? Or to express those circumstances to the committee so that you don't have to commit elsewhere and then withdraw and scramble if/when Yale finally decides to get back to applicants in limbo?
I don't think the sentiment is bratty, but the tone of some of the emails they're receiving likely is.
Those emails are just sort of pointless, in my view--you know they're not going to respond with 'well, in that case, here's your decision, you individual applicant, you!' (Nice though that would be)

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Re: Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by hopeful94 » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:40 pm

Olliedemars wrote:

Why is it bratty to have deadlines at comparable schools and want to make a decision based on all admissions outcomes? Or to express those circumstances to the committee so that you don't have to commit elsewhere and then withdraw and scramble if/when Yale finally decides to get back to applicants in limbo?
I don't think the sentiment is bratty, but the tone of some of the emails they're receiving likely is.
Those emails are just sort of pointless, in my view--you know they're not going to respond with 'well, in that case, here's your decision, you individual applicant, you!' (Nice though that would be)
I feel that but I also think that the collective power of several applicants voicing concerns about meeting other law schools' deadlines could light a much needed fire to push the process along.

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Re: Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by Olliedemars » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:48 pm

mdnyc wrote:
Olliedemars wrote:Okay, I'm going to float a conspiracy theory: the reason YLS has only had 1 rejection wave is because AdComm doesn't want it to be detectable 1. who made it to faculty review, and 2. who likely made it to FR but wasn't admitted. By releasing all decisions at once, it's impossible to suss out, through Internet chatter, who never made it to FR and who did, but unsuccessfully.

This lack of transparency might be useful if, say, FR tends to result in more males than women getting 11s/12s, or not enough URMs, or it turns out there's a faculty bias for folks from South Dakota, or Tauruses, or whatever. Even the appearance of any sort of preference is definitely to be avoided, and the 'all-in-one' rejection wave smooths out any conjecture as to the type of applicant that makes it to FR, makes it through FR, etc.

I don't necessarily believe this myself, but it's getting very difficult to come up with a logical reason for the radio silence. Their office must be getting inundated with bratty 'I got into Harvard and Columbia and don't you know that the deadlines' blah blah e-mails, and that seems reason enough to send out most decisions.

Do I like that it's taking this long? No. Do I wish we had a bit more communication from them? Sure. But I don't think there's anything nefarious or manipulative going on.

Plus I HIGHLY doubt Asha cares what we think/know here, even if she's aware of it.
To be clear, even my conspiracy theory did hold up, I would not call the big-wave rejection 'nefarious or manipulative'--it would just be managing public perceptions, which every organization, be it a school, business, or govt, does all the time.

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Re: Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by clovis » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:53 pm

hopeful94 wrote:
Olliedemars wrote:

Why is it bratty to have deadlines at comparable schools and want to make a decision based on all admissions outcomes? Or to express those circumstances to the committee so that you don't have to commit elsewhere and then withdraw and scramble if/when Yale finally decides to get back to applicants in limbo?
I don't think the sentiment is bratty, but the tone of some of the emails they're receiving likely is.
Those emails are just sort of pointless, in my view--you know they're not going to respond with 'well, in that case, here's your decision, you individual applicant, you!' (Nice though that would be)
I feel that but I also think that the collective power of several applicants voicing concerns about meeting other law schools' deadlines could light a much needed fire to push the process along.
There is literally nothing we can do.

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Re: Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by MostlyLurking » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:33 pm

Got a telemarketer call from Connecticut today.

Please end this, Yale.

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Post by schocolate » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:45 am

I'm feeling good about today, friends.

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schocolate wrote:I'm feeling good about today, friends.
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Re: Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by mdnyc » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:17 am

hopeful94 wrote:
schocolate wrote:I'm feeling good about today, friends.
+1
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Re: Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by clovis » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:34 am

MostlyLurking wrote:Got a telemarketer call from Connecticut today.

Please end this, Yale.
Noooo! Feeling for you. My heart races whenever I get a call from an unknown number. Even if it's from Texas, I convince myself that the number got scrambled somehow.

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Re: Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by mdnyc » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:17 pm

I'm feeling less good about today, now. Maybe we'll get another late night ding wave tomorrow night?

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Post by hopeful94 » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:19 pm

I really hope so, because we're T-10 days out from their enrollment deadline....

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Post by labergel » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:53 pm

Much like in real football, my Yale Mary fell short. Decision by email as of 2 minutes ago.

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Re: Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by braddock » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:56 pm

Dinged via e-mail just now. Complete 3/1. At least the wait is over!

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Post by oreomilkshake » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:57 pm

Sorry to hear that :( when did ya'll apply?

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Post by thestruggle » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:57 pm

same!

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Post by mdnyc » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:58 pm

Looks like the end is nigh, friends.

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Post by schocolate » Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:06 pm

Dinged! Complete end of January.

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Post by WhiteHouse » Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:22 pm

My condolences to those who were dinged (or congrats for finally resting in peace?)

What should we assume if we haven't received word of a ding yet? Does Yale even waitlist people?

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Re: Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by grgregregre » Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:22 pm

Did the emails all go out at once or do I still have hope for tonight?

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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