Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013 Forum

[Xs20]

Checking in. Deferred to RD on 12/14.

[ssanonymous]

I doubt I'll get a scholarship offer from Michigan, but, just in case, where does the scholarship information pop up on the ASW? I won't be able to get my acceptance package until mid-Jan, so there's no way for me to check if I got a scholarship offer or not.

Most of the offers have come through snail mail. If you do get a scholarship, you will see it in the "Mail & Money" section of ASW

Thanks. So if the site says, "Offer Package (including conditions of offer, portfolio and flash drive)" and nothing about scholarships, then I shouldn't expect one, right?

[JesusChrist]

I doubt I'll get a scholarship offer from Michigan, but, just in case, where does the scholarship information pop up on the ASW? I won't be able to get my acceptance package until mid-Jan, so there's no way for me to check if I got a scholarship offer or not.

Most of the offers have come through snail mail. If you do get a scholarship, you will see it in the "Mail & Money" section of ASW

Thanks. So if the site says, "Offer Package (including conditions of offer, portfolio and flash drive)" and nothing about scholarships, then I shouldn't expect one, right?

I dont think there's anything you can gleam for that. That's the form status for everyone who's been accepted.

Relax, your in. Let the rest happen as it happens.

That's what she said.

[shntn]

Relax, your in. Let the rest happen as it happens.

That's what she said.

Jesus Christ!

He should always post in red, just for consistency's sake.

[FatcatHobbes]

Yeah, the acceptance and scholly info come separately. I found out that I got money about two and a half weeks after I got in.

[WhatOurBodiesAreFor]

I need some help managing my expectations regarding my Michigan app. Could someone guide me?

I'm 167/3.74, which seems to be right at this year's cut-off.

I submitted early November and I haven't heard anything yet. Should I be expecting a WL then? If I do get a WL, can I expect to come off of it?

I also have a general question about the WL, in my case, a WL at Michigan is somewhat likely and I have a shot at WL at Penn or UVA. So, is there a corresponding better chance at my getting off the waitlist at Mich than there is at UVA? I'm sure the answer is yes, but I just want to make sure because someone said earlier in this thread that I'd likely be in here at Mich, even since I have been trying not to get my hopes up too high, all the while checking my status constantly.

Edit: grammar

[Teflon_Don]

Hey everyone,

I'm on Mich's ASW and it says "Dean's Scholarship: 22,500.00" is that per year or over three do you think? I can't access my mail to read the official letter so I was just curious, thanks!

[yarsten]

Hey everyone,

I'm on Mich's ASW and it says "Dean's Scholarship: 22,500.00" is that per year or over three do you think? I can't access my mail to read the official letter so I was just curious, thanks!

It's per year. Congrats!

[Entchen]

CatFacts, not sure if this is still relevant or if you've made up your mind, but as a 2L (er, now 3L I guess) summer starter, I will say, Regulus is talking nonsense. Having just gone through OCI, I can tell you that having done summer start will not affect your employment chances -- probably at all, and definitely not for the worse.

Most of the employers I talked to didn't even know about it -- they certainly didn't assume I must have been early decision, or a below-average candidate. If anything, it was just some small, kind of interesting, but ultimately not that noteworthy detail of my application. I had a few more classes I was able to talk about, and that third term actually did raise my GPA a bit, but that was basically it.

I and many of my summer starter friends are going to great jobs around the country, and I really don't think when we started school had any affect on that. You're welcome to PM me if you have specific questions.

[LSATSCORES2012]

My only problem with summer start is that I want to ride out waitlists that I hope to get on... although I suppose I might not be in a position for that to matter, anyway.

[20141023]

.

[alwayssunnyinfl]

But how would summer start really hurt your prospects? Having more grades by OCI seems like a good thing. Unless there's some kind of misconception out there that students enrolled in summer start are somehow inferior.

[cwid1391]

Unless there's some kind of misconception out there that students enrolled in summer start are somehow inferior.

This. There's a conception that employers view summer start programs as exclusively for those with academic problems.

[20141023]

.

[Entchen]

CatFacts, not sure if this is still relevant or if you've made up your mind, but as a 2L (er, now 3L I guess) summer starter, I will say, Regulus is talking nonsense. Having just gone through OCI, I can tell you that having done summer start will not affect your employment chances -- probably at all, and definitely not for the worse.

Most of the employers I talked to didn't even know about it -- they certainly didn't assume I must have been early decision, or a below-average candidate. If anything, it was just some small, kind of interesting, but ultimately not that noteworthy detail of my application. I had a few more classes I was able to talk about, and that third term actually did raise my GPA a bit, but that was basically it.

I and many of my summer starter friends are going to great jobs around the country, and I really don't think when we started school had any affect on that. You're welcome to PM me if you have specific questions.

Urm hrm.... I did not say that the summer-start program would necessarily hurt one's prospects; rather, I said that there is not enough available data to determine such a thing. The only "data" out there is the opinions of students who are in the summer-start program. (Please correct me if there is information that shows a comparison of how summer-starters place versus fall-starters.)

I was responding to your post at the top of the page where you seem to suggest that, because ED applicants were limited to summer start, this somehow meant that the summer program was full of borderline applicants, and also that employers (and others, including, apparently, yourself) attach this stigma to all summer starters (and I guess are therefore less likely to hire them?).

First of all, I know the admissions office makes a serious effort to keep the sections balanced -- even if some of the people who applied ED might not have gotten in RD (which may be true, but it is certainly not true of all EDers). If Dean Z put you in summer start, I guarantee it was not to "send a message" about your qualifications -- she probably just thought you'd be a good fit for that group. I actually know of at least two people accepted to Michigan as summer starters with full merit scholarships. Being a summer or fall starter really says nothing about what the admissions office thought of your qualifications.

Secondly, I really don't think employers (or anyone, really) look down on people admitted to any law school early decision. So what if it's the only way you were going to get in? You did get in, which means they thought you could do the work, and you've been in the same classes as everyone else, so they'll look at how your grades in those classes turned out, not whether your LSAT happened to be two points lower than the RD kid sitting next to you in torts. And I promise, once summer starters and fall starters are all mixed together in upper level classes, summer starters' grades don't suddenly plummet because fall starters are oh so much more capable than all of us.

Anyway, I guess it's true that I don't have any more hard employment data comparing summer starters to fall starters than you do, but I have seen two classes of summer and fall starters go through OCI, and I can tell you based on that experience that your worries are almost certainly unfounded.

[20141023]

.

[shntn]

A) Congrats to all admitted! Huge!

B) Dammit. I submitted on 1 Sep and went complete on 13 Sep and still show simply "complete"....getting that sinking feeling.

Dude, this is day one. These guys are likely auto-admits (and congrats to you all!)...just relax.

(Auto-Admit)

These are so fun to look back on.

[Xs20]

Email this morning:

[HawkeyeGirl]

Pretty sure I've gone full-on neurotic, but I noticed the always-updated "last updated" section WASN'T updated today!! It still says jan 2 for me. Anyone else have this too??

[comeonletsgo]

Pretty sure I've gone full-on neurotic, but I noticed the always-updated "last updated" section WASN'T updated today!! It still says jan 2 for me. Anyone else have this too??

Me! I was wondering what it means.

[ks2499]

Pretty sure I've gone full-on neurotic, but I noticed the always-updated "last updated" section WASN'T updated today!! It still says jan 2 for me. Anyone else have this too??

I do. That's a little disconcerting - didn't it even update on Christmas?

[HawkeyeGirl]

Pretty sure I've gone full-on neurotic, but I noticed the always-updated "last updated" section WASN'T updated today!! It still says jan 2 for me. Anyone else have this too??

I do. That's a little disconcerting - didn't it even update on Christmas?

Yeah it did! Maybe their system is slow bc of dec score release?

[shntn]

Pretty sure I've gone full-on neurotic, but I noticed the always-updated "last updated" section WASN'T updated today!! It still says jan 2 for me. Anyone else have this too??

Yep. I'd bet the "we haven't forgotten about you" e-mails are coming soon.

[jubee]

Pretty sure I've gone full-on neurotic, but I noticed the always-updated "last updated" section WASN'T updated today!! It still says jan 2 for me. Anyone else have this too??

I do. That's a little disconcerting - didn't it even update on Christmas?

Yeah it did! Maybe their system is slow bc of dec score release?

Me too! I had the exact same thought and came here to post/ask. Mine also says jan 2, and usually its been auto updated by this time every day....I hope it means something....

[alwayssunnyinfl]

Pretty sure I've gone full-on neurotic, but I noticed the always-updated "last updated" section WASN'T updated today!! It still says jan 2 for me. Anyone else have this too??

I do. That's a little disconcerting - didn't it even update on Christmas?

Yeah it did! Maybe their system is slow bc of dec score release?

Me too! I had the exact same thought and came here to post/ask. Mine also says jan 2, and usually its been auto updated by this time every day....I hope it means something....

We're all getting WL'ed