Harvard Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018) Forum

[#gobroncos]

so can we expect a wave of JS2's next week and another wave at the end of January?

DId this happen last year? I kind of thought there’s usually just one January wave later in the month. That said, I’d be pumped for a JS2 wave next week (assuming I’m in it, of course)!

Do y’all think it’s at all possible for someone who had a JS1 today (**ahem** me) to be in the next JS2 wave? (**xrosses fingers**)

I don’t see why not, honestly. I would think, if anything, they want to have as many apps with final decisions on them as soon as possible to reduce their own workload. If they aren’t sure about someone, it makes sense to wait on it, but might as well hand out all for-sure acceptances ASAP if you’re in that bunch!

[maybeman]

Went complete 10/31, still no JS1... can I take that as a ding and stop stressing, do you think?

I've been complete since 10/13 with no JS1. You aren't alone.

75th GPA median LSAT, complete since September and no JS1 the pain is real

[fohner]

Is there reason to think that JS1s are disproportionately going to people with high LSAT scores this early in the cycle? Like is Harvard focusing on securing their LSAT stats so that people below 173 can expect to hear back later? The lowest accepted LSAT score on LSN for this cycle so far is 173. I feel like my neuroticism is getting the best of me but it makes sense that better applicants are getting accepted earlier and people with lower stats will get their shot later.

[usaorbust]

Is there reason to think that JS1s are disproportionately going to people with high LSAT scores this early in the cycle? Like is Harvard focusing on securing their LSAT stats so that people below 173 can expect to hear back later? The lowest accepted LSAT score on LSN for this cycle so far is 173. I feel like my neuroticism is getting the best of me but it makes sense that better applicants are getting accepted earlier and people with lower stats will get their shot later.

Well there has only been one wave of acceptances so I think it’s early to make those speculations.

[Llamas]

Is there reason to think that JS1s are disproportionately going to people with high LSAT scores this early in the cycle? Like is Harvard focusing on securing their LSAT stats so that people below 173 can expect to hear back later? The lowest accepted LSAT score on LSN for this cycle so far is 173. I feel like my neuroticism is getting the best of me but it makes sense that better applicants are getting accepted earlier and people with lower stats will get their shot later.

I think you're overthinking it. There are people with high LSATs who haven't gotten JS1, and there are people who had below median LSAT who have gotten a JS1.

[etramak]

Is there reason to think that JS1s are disproportionately going to people with high LSAT scores this early in the cycle? Like is Harvard focusing on securing their LSAT stats so that people below 173 can expect to hear back later? The lowest accepted LSAT score on LSN for this cycle so far is 173. I feel like my neuroticism is getting the best of me but it makes sense that better applicants are getting accepted earlier and people with lower stats will get their shot later.

It seems like JS1s have been relatively balanced so far. Who knows if receiving a quick JS1 has something to do with the strength of your app, the efficiency of your app's reader, or a combination of both. However I wouldn't be surprised if they frontload 173+ JS2s so that they can be somewhat confident that they're median is secure on March 31st.

[#gobroncos]

Is there reason to think that JS1s are disproportionately going to people with high LSAT scores this early in the cycle? Like is Harvard focusing on securing their LSAT stats so that people below 173 can expect to hear back later? The lowest accepted LSAT score on LSN for this cycle so far is 173. I feel like my neuroticism is getting the best of me but it makes sense that better applicants are getting accepted earlier and people with lower stats will get their shot later.

Well there has only been one wave of acceptances so I think it’s early to make those speculations.

And that wave was super small, I believe, relative to the ones to come. We’re still in the first quarter of this one. Lots of clock left.

[SmellingRoses]

Just checking in (better late than never!).

Went Complete: 11/3
JS1 Invite: 11/28
JS1 Interview: 12/6

LSAT: 165 (I cry)
GPA: 3.85
Non-URM, but other diverse factors
Great softs
Already have an LL.M.

As far as I can tell, I’m one of the only non-URM that’s below the 25th LSAT to have a (relatively early) JS1... is anyone else in that boat? Should I take that as a good sign? TBH v shocked I even got a JS1 and would actually think there’s a mistake if I got a JS2 call.

[pupper]

As far as I can tell, I’m one of the only non-URM that’s below the 25th LSAT to have a (relatively early) JS1... is anyone else in that boat? Should I take that as a good sign? TBH v shocked I even got a JS1 and would actually think there’s a mistake if I got a JS2 call.

I'm also in this boat! I guess getting a JS1 at all is a good sign. I'm not getting my hopes up, however.

[etramak]

Just checking in (better late than never!).

Went Complete: 11/3
JS1 Invite: 11/28
JS1 Interview: 12/6

LSAT: 165 (I cry)
GPA: 3.85
Non-URM, but other diverse factors
Great softs
Already have an LL.M.

As far as I can tell, I’m one of the only non-URM that’s below the 25th LSAT to have a (relatively early) JS1... is anyone else in that boat? Should I take that as a good sign? TBH v shocked I even got a JS1 and would actually think there’s a mistake if I got a JS2 call.

That's awesome, best of luck

[feralflamingo]

Went complete 10/31, still no JS1... can I take that as a ding and stop stressing, do you think?

I've been complete since 10/13 with no JS1. You aren't alone.

75th GPA median LSAT, complete since September and no JS1 the pain is real

We're in the same boat here, maybeman....

[austinlove]

I think my js1 went very well but I have below median lsat, and I feel like that’s not an easy acceptance score this cycle.

[maybeman]

Went complete 10/31, still no JS1... can I take that as a ding and stop stressing, do you think?

I've been complete since 10/13 with no JS1. You aren't alone.

75th GPA median LSAT, complete since September and no JS1 the pain is real

We're in the same boat here, maybeman....

Hold me

[etramak]

I think my js1 went very well but I have a 172, and I feel like that’s not an easy acceptance score this cycle.

I think an above median GPA would still give you an ok shot. Apps with scores like that have had a 50% chance according to LSN last cycle and dating back to the extremely competitive years.

[Bush v. Gorgeous]

Went complete 10/31, still no JS1... can I take that as a ding and stop stressing, do you think?

I've been complete since 10/13 with no JS1. You aren't alone.

75th GPA median LSAT, complete since September and no JS1 the pain is real

We're in the same boat here, maybeman....

Hold me

Same for me (no JS1) though my LSAT is lower (between 25th and median) which I realize is possibly the issue.

[squarerootofi]

Just got a JS 1!! Is 2 waves in one week even a thing??

[maybeman]

Just got a JS 1!! Is 2 waves in one week even a thing??

Congrats!!!!! Not sure about the schedule of waves at this point in the cycle. Mind if I ask if you're KJD?

[feralflamingo]

Went complete 10/31, still no JS1... can I take that as a ding and stop stressing, do you think?

I've been complete since 10/13 with no JS1. You aren't alone.

75th GPA median LSAT, complete since September and no JS1 the pain is real

We're in the same boat here, maybeman....

Hold me

*strokes blue fuzz softly*

[squarerootofi]

Nope, I'm about 2.5 years out of school. For others who might be curious:
Submitted 12/5
Complete 12/19
LSAT 175, GPA 3.9+ but below 75th, strong softs (PM for details)

[Llamas]

Does anyone know if you need to submit a Dean's certification form if you answered yes to the C&F question? HLS website seems to indicate that you only need to submit once admitted, but does that only apply for people who did not answer yes to any C&F? For example, other schools like Duke or NYU require submission WITH the application a Dean's certfication form if you answer Yes.

[etramak]

Didnt knock the interview out of the park but wasnt a disaster either. Hopefully hear back soon but I'm expecting to wait awhile

Why do you say that? I also had mine and felt the same way. I've heard that the interview is a (relatively) small piece of the puzzle and isn't usually the reason behind an admissions outcome.

Expecting to wait awhile because of stats, but the fact that I got a relatively quick JS1 was an encouraging sign as far as other aspects of the application go. As for the interview itself for the most part it went smoothly but i got nervous a couple times and either didn't speak too clearly or had to take a bit of a pause to gather my thoughts.

They interview roughly 1300-1500 applicants a year and accept roughly 900. Assuming you didn't butcher (I mean completely butcher) the interview, you are looking at a 60% - 70% chance at an offer of admission.

Define "butcher"

[jkander31]

Didnt knock the interview out of the park but wasnt a disaster either. Hopefully hear back soon but I'm expecting to wait awhile

Why do you say that? I also had mine and felt the same way. I've heard that the interview is a (relatively) small piece of the puzzle and isn't usually the reason behind an admissions outcome.

Expecting to wait awhile because of stats, but the fact that I got a relatively quick JS1 was an encouraging sign as far as other aspects of the application go. As for the interview itself for the most part it went smoothly but i got nervous a couple times and either didn't speak too clearly or had to take a bit of a pause to gather my thoughts.

They interview roughly 1300-1500 applicants a year and accept roughly 900. Assuming you didn't butcher (I mean completely butcher) the interview, you are looking at a 60% - 70% chance at an offer of admission.

Define "butcher"

1) You are completely great on paper but can't speak proper English, curse often, degrading the interviewer, disrespectful .. etc.
2) You are not who you say you are.
3) You don't know your application
4) They catch you lying.

things of that nature.

[ArthurTimothyRead]

Any JS2 predictions? 1/25/18ish seems likely.

[TheKingLives]

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[Slippin' Jimmy]

I noticed on the application that there is a question about allowing HLS to send us texts. It's never been done but would anyone else love to get a JS1/2 via text?

I’d take a JS1 by carrier pigeon at this point.