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Post by mornincounselor » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:08 pm

toomanymornings wrote:Accepted mid January and I haven't heard anything about scholarships. Am I missing something? Should I contact them about this? I really like WUSTL and want to consider it, but am not going to go anywhere for sticker.
Same. I will be reaching out to them this week to ask if they have any plans of offering me a scholarship.

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Post by toomanymornings » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:16 am

Alright, thanks. I'll get in contact with them as well.

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Post by sadie T. » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:20 am

In today! Anyone know the average wait for scholarship information??

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Post by robertwabisabi » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:42 am

Accepted via email today.

Submitted: 1/15/2016
Received: 1/15/2016
Interview Request: 1/21/2016
Interview Complete: 2/5/2016
Decision: 3/7/2016

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Post by Diva » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:29 pm

robertwabisabi wrote:Accepted via email today.

Submitted: 1/15/2016
Received: 1/15/2016
Interview Request: 1/21/2016
Interview Complete: 2/5/2016
Decision: 3/7/2016
Long time lurker and a first-time poster here! Hey guys!

@Robertwabisabi did your status checker change to "Decision Made" before you received your email? I interviewed on Friday 2/26 and I'm expecting a decision soon but my status checker still says "Under Review" :|

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Re: WUSTL Class of 2019 Applicants

Post by robertwabisabi » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:42 pm

Diva wrote:
Long time lurker and a first-time poster here! Hey guys!

@Robertwabisabi did your status checker change to "Decision Made" before you received your email? I interviewed on Friday 2/26 and I'm expecting a decision soon but my status checker still says "Under Review" :|
Hi Diva,

I was just checking my email before before going to sleep (it is late here in Tokyo at the moment) and noticed I received an acceptance email from WUSTL. That would have been about 9am CST. I then logged into the status checker to confirm and it has this on the top:
"A decision has been made on your application and an email will be sent shortly to the primary email account listed on your application. It is Admissions Office policy not to post final decisions on the status check page. Decisions are emailed to each individual applicant."

Like almost every other school, though, WUSTL lists first deposit and second deposit in the status checker once you have been admitted.

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Post by nisalurve » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:13 pm

Hey all! I applied pretty late-3/1. I received an email on 3/4 asking me for an interview. Since I live in STL already (UMSL for undergrad) I figured I'd take an in person interview rather than the Skype/Phone and responded to the email same day. Haven't heard from them since. I'm sure they're busy, I'm just super nervous and really want this interview to happen since I thought I would be an outright denial (163 LSAT, and it was my second attempt). Should I call, or would they be annoyed by me only giving them a few days to respond?

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Post by Diva » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:29 pm

nisalurve wrote:Hey all! I applied pretty late-3/1. I received an email on 3/4 asking me for an interview. Since I live in STL already (UMSL for undergrad) I figured I'd take an in person interview rather than the Skype/Phone and responded to the email same day. Haven't heard from them since. I'm sure they're busy, I'm just super nervous and really want this interview to happen since I thought I would be an outright denial (163 LSAT, and it was my second attempt). Should I call, or would they be annoyed by me only giving them a few days to respond?

Why am I so anxiouuuuus ugh
Hi @Nisalurve I'm from the area too! It took WUSTL a couple of days to respond when I emailed them back to schedule an in-person interview (Interview request 2/16, reply from WUSTL 2/18, interviewed during Open House day on 2/26). Since it's only been 1 business day since you replied, I wouldn't stress about it yet. They're pretty swamped right now.

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Post by pandapops » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:42 pm

Did anyone have or notice a date change after they interviewed? I never had a date change since I was notified my app was complete, even when I got an interview request. Interviewed 2/22 and had a date change this morning 3/7.

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Post by mickelsr » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:30 pm

Hi all, long-time lurker, first-time poster here. I applied late, last week of Feb., and I've got a 3.4/168 with low/average softs, non-urm. Consequently I'm not really holding my breath for widespread T14 acceptances this cycle, I've considered retaking this June for a 170+ and applying very early next cycle, but I've already sat out a year since graduation and would like to get a start at law school. I'm hoping my UVA expedited binding gamble will work, but I haven't heard back yet. So, WUSTL might be a good bet, if I can get some money out of them.

I have a phone interview scheduled for this Wednesday, but I'm a few hours away by car and can afford the time/gas money etc. to drive down and visit campus and interview. Do you guys think doing this could sway admissions towards giving me some decent scholarship money, versus sticking with my scheduled phone interview? Might show commitment to the school when I didn't really do much in my app to target them. Thanks,

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Post by Joscellin » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:35 pm

mickelsr wrote:Hi all, long-time lurker, first-time poster here. I applied late, last week of Feb., and I've got a 3.4/168 with low/average softs, non-urm. Consequently I'm not really holding my breath for widespread T14 acceptances this cycle, I've considered retaking this June for a 170+ and applying very early next cycle, but I've already sat out a year since graduation and would like to get a start at law school. I'm hoping my UVA expedited binding gamble will work, but I haven't heard back yet. So, WUSTL might be a good bet, if I can get some money out of them.

I have a phone interview scheduled for this Wednesday, but I'm a few hours away by car and can afford the time/gas money etc. to drive down and visit campus and interview. Do you guys think doing this could sway admissions towards giving me some decent scholarship money, versus sticking with my scheduled phone interview? Might show commitment to the school when I didn't really do much in my app to target them. Thanks,

R
I honestly doubt it would make a real difference on the school's end, but it may provide good info for you when making your decisions later. It's a beautiful campus to visit, if you haven't had the opportunity in the past.

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Post by StaviTavi1290 » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:56 am

To those of you who have already reached out about scholarship money/ are negotiating for more money, who did you email to do so? I'm planning on sending an email by the end of this week or next, and am trying to figure out who to send it to.

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Post by BirdLawExpert » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:58 am

So I was planning on going to the ASW in a few weeks, but in the interim we had the big discussion about how you're at a severe disadvantage at WashU if you don't have ties to STL (I don't at all), and I heard from a former student that there was a considerably higher percentage of gunners at WashU than his friends at other schools experienced. Because of these conversations, I've been pretty turned off from the school. Should I still go visit? I don't want to waste money on flight+hotel if I'm going to leave with the same bad taste in mouth that I already have. :? Those who have already been, how did the visits go?

It sucks because I was seriously considering WashU after the scholly offer, but since then I've truly heard nothing but bad things. I even had a professor whom I respect tell me to avoid WashU since I've got UT and Vandy on the table.

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Post by guynourmin » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:18 pm

BirdLawExpert wrote: I heard from a former student that there was a considerably higher percentage of gunners at WashU than his friends at other schools experienced.
Unless by former student you mean a 2L that transfered out I would say that cultures can probably change quite a bit over 3-4 years at any given school. That is pretty disheartening to hear, though.

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Post by BirdLawExpert » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:32 pm

guybourdin wrote:
BirdLawExpert wrote: I heard from a former student that there was a considerably higher percentage of gunners at WashU than his friends at other schools experienced.
Unless by former student you mean a 2L that transfered out I would say that cultures can probably change quite a bit over 3-4 years at any given school. That is pretty disheartening to hear, though.
That's fair. I heard this from both a grad that has been out for several years whom I know, and recent grad who they put me in contact with. Given the nature of admissions this could very well be different class to class, but they said many of the gunners were trying to place high to transfer to T-6 after 1L.

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Post by LMD » Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:20 pm

It stands to reason the school would have a higher percentage of gunners than most, a lot of people are there because they didn't get into the T14. WUSTL gives a lot of money to snag the best of this lot and many of the students intend to transfer.

However, while I suspect this means WUSTL has a higher % of gunners than other places: 1) there are gunners everywhere; 2) most people, as in most situations, are going to be cool (with the limitation that they are all human and thus inevitably do crummy things from time to time); 3) it's not healthy to worry about gunners. The reality is, a lot of people want to be gunners, but social conditioning tells us not too. Most people adhere to that social conditioning, but for whatever reason some people are relentless in their efforts to demonstrate their superiority to others. Just let them. They are getting it wrong-- just think about the way everyone else thinks about gunners, and laugh on the inside. This is how their bosses and "friends" think about them too- they have no humility, no self-deprecation, and are generally unsatisfied with their lives because they always have to push, push, push for more.

It's true that gunners can be insufferable, but it's not just within law school, they are insufferable any time you encounter them in any field. The best gunners do so in secret because they're not looking for external validation from authority figures, they have a stronger than mission than impressing some professor. Have compassion for those who attempt other life strategies and have a little laugh on the inside because you're doing life better, but don't let them get to you or bother you. They're just doing their own thing, same as you. Until and unless they actively knock you down, just ignore them.

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Post by RZ5646 » Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:49 pm

LMD wrote:The reality is, a lot of people want to be gunners, but social conditioning tells us not too.
I'd say it's the other way around actually

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Post by KunAgnis » Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:53 pm

BirdLawExpert wrote:
guybourdin wrote:
BirdLawExpert wrote: I heard from a former student that there was a considerably higher percentage of gunners at WashU than his friends at other schools experienced.
Unless by former student you mean a 2L that transfered out I would say that cultures can probably change quite a bit over 3-4 years at any given school. That is pretty disheartening to hear, though.
That's fair. I heard this from both a grad that has been out for several years whom I know, and recent grad who they put me in contact with. Given the nature of admissions this could very well be different class to class, but they said many of the gunners were trying to place high to transfer to T-6 after 1L.
As a current 1L at WashU, I can tell you that situation isn't what I'm experiencing. I think that it may have had to do with the fact that the school's administration attempted to experiment with a larger class size and it backfired (roughly 30 or so people transferred out from last year's 1L class). Overall I think WashU is pretty relaxed and not unusually teeming with gunners.

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Post by Joscellin » Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:09 pm

KunAgnis wrote:
BirdLawExpert wrote:
guybourdin wrote:
BirdLawExpert wrote: I heard from a former student that there was a considerably higher percentage of gunners at WashU than his friends at other schools experienced.
Unless by former student you mean a 2L that transfered out I would say that cultures can probably change quite a bit over 3-4 years at any given school. That is pretty disheartening to hear, though.
That's fair. I heard this from both a grad that has been out for several years whom I know, and recent grad who they put me in contact with. Given the nature of admissions this could very well be different class to class, but they said many of the gunners were trying to place high to transfer to T-6 after 1L.
As a current 1L at WashU, I can tell you that situation isn't what I'm experiencing. I think that it may have had to do with the fact that the school's administration attempted to experiment with a larger class size and it backfired (roughly 30 or so people transferred out from last year's 1L class). Overall I think WashU is pretty relaxed and not unusually teeming with gunners.
Current 1L, and I agree. My section in particular is super chill.

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BirdLawExpert wrote:So I was planning on going to the ASW in a few weeks, but in the interim we had the big discussion about how you're at a severe disadvantage at WashU if you don't have ties to STL (I don't at all), and I heard from a former student that there was a considerably higher percentage of gunners at WashU than his friends at other schools experienced. Because of these conversations, I've been pretty turned off from the school. Should I still go visit? I don't want to waste money on flight+hotel if I'm going to leave with the same bad taste in mouth that I already have. :? Those who have already been, how did the visits go?

It sucks because I was seriously considering WashU after the scholly offer, but since then I've truly heard nothing but bad things. I even had a professor whom I respect tell me to avoid WashU since I've got UT and Vandy on the table.
Don't know where you're coming from/how expensive the flight is, but they might offer you some sort of travel stipend if you ask, and I know certain hotels have discounts if you call and mention ASW (I've been getting lots of emails to this effect). Honestly, if you were considering it and the scholarship money is good, I'd check it out so you have no regrets. Seeing it in person and talking to real people is (for me, anywho) more comforting than hearing it from this site. :) Best of luck in your decision, you have some great options on the table!

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Post by LET'S GET IT » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:49 pm

KunAgnis wrote:
BirdLawExpert wrote:
guybourdin wrote:
BirdLawExpert wrote: I heard from a former student that there was a considerably higher percentage of gunners at WashU than his friends at other schools experienced.
Unless by former student you mean a 2L that transfered out I would say that cultures can probably change quite a bit over 3-4 years at any given school. That is pretty disheartening to hear, though.
That's fair. I heard this from both a grad that has been out for several years whom I know, and recent grad who they put me in contact with. Given the nature of admissions this could very well be different class to class, but they said many of the gunners were trying to place high to transfer to T-6 after 1L.
As a current 1L at WashU, I can tell you that situation isn't what I'm experiencing. I think that it may have had to do with the fact that the school's administration attempted to experiment with a larger class size and it backfired (roughly 30 or so people transferred out from last year's 1L class). Overall I think WashU is pretty relaxed and not unusually teeming with gunners.
I agree with this (except it was more like 50). I do think we are in a unique spot to be ripe for gunners since many people here feel like they should be at a T14. Also why be uptight at Duke or Cornell or wherever? Everyone who wants biglaw is getting it for the most part. Why be uptight at [insert random TTT here]? No one is getting biglaw. Here you have a realistic shot, but many people won't get it. I think this is where some of the gunning comes from.

My class (2017) was too big and people were freaking out from the time they got here. Also gunning breeds more gunning because of social norms and such I think. I agree with the above poster who said people gun secretly (stealth gunners as I call them). That's a real thing.

All that being said, the reasons I theorized lead to gunner problems here would also be present at Vandy, Texas, what have you, so I don't know. You should absolutely still come visit. If you can go to Vandy/Texas for the same COA as here, go for it. But going there for a lot more money just to possibly avoid gunners strikes me as a bad idea. My class was the terrible one. Was it annoying? Absolutely. Did it make me wish I'd gone somewhere else? No.

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