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[hillz]

Once your status changes to "decision made", how long until the email shows up?

To answer my own question, it took me about an hour after my status changed.

In via PT! Above LSAT 75th, below GPA 25th. So excited!!

Congrats!!

[leslieknope]

Once your status changes to "decision made", how long until the email shows up?

To answer my own question, it took me about an hour after my status changed.

In via PT! Above LSAT 75th, below GPA 25th. So excited!!

Congratulations!!

[Yeezus]

Once your status changes to "decision made", how long until the email shows up?

To answer my own question, it took me about an hour after my status changed.

In via PT! Above LSAT 75th, below GPA 25th. So excited!!

Congrats! Hopefully I'll get the same email tomorrow from Duke.

[Yeezus]

Priority Reserve... Wtf

[Mack.Hambleton]

Priority Reserve... Wtf

Stats?

[Yeezus]

Priority Reserve... Wtf

Stats?

3.7x, 170. I also wrote a Why Duke, so I'm definitely a little surprised. Guess I'll have to write an LOCI since Duke is one of my top choices.

[secadc11]

Priority Reserve... Wtf

Stats?

3.7x, 170. I also wrote a Why Duke, so I'm definitely a little surprised. Guess I'll have to write an LOCI since Duke is one of my top choices.

Damn Yeezus sorry to hear. I bet with a LOCI and your numbers you have a great shot of coming off the waitlist.

[leslieknope]

In via PT! LSAT just below median, GPA>75th, wrote Why Duke. First acceptance of the cycle! I'm so relieved I'm shaking.

[leslieknope]

Priority Reserve... Wtf

Sorry to hear that man :/ I'm sure with a LOCI you'll hear some very good things coming soon!

[secadc11]

In via PT! LSAT just below median, GPA>75th, wrote Why Duke. First acceptance of the cycle! I'm so relieved I'm shaking.

Congrats!

[janwlee]

provisionally accepted via PT. right on day 10!

[Redynsje]

On word on how long it takes to hear back for us non PT applicants? Application complete as of 12/1/14. File under review as of 1/5/15.

[Tr3]

On word on how long it takes to hear back for us non PT applicants? Application complete as of 12/1/14. File under review as of 1/5/15.

I'm not actually sure, but I took a look at last year's thread and it looks like some non-PT people started going UR2 around 1/22 (IIRC) and decisions in early Feb. I don't remember exact dates.

[Redynsje]

Also, this may be a ridiculous question, but do you know why Duke has the PT option if it is not binding? If they can zip through applications in ten days or less, why would they not do this with all applications?

[Clemenceau]

Also, this may be a ridiculous question, but do you know why Duke has the PT option if it is not binding? If they can zip through applications in ten days or less, why would they not do this with all applications?

I think it's a marketing strategy, more or less. I can't really explain the psychology but it's definitely aimed at increasing matriculation for high-scoring applicants, hence why they don't do it for everyone.

Also, tls makes it seem like 90% of duke applicants are PT. Not the case.

[pylon]

Also, this may be a ridiculous question, but do you know why Duke has the PT option if it is not binding? If they can zip through applications in ten days or less, why would they not do this with all applications?

This is just a guess, but I would imagine that a lot of PT admits are ones who Duke is at the risk of losing to higher ranked schools (hurting their yield). So PT for those applicants makes sense. And then they do a regular cycle for all applicants for the same reasons other schools do it - sense of the applicant pool, figuring out medians, etc.

[nickhalden]

Also, this may be a ridiculous question, but do you know why Duke has the PT option if it is not binding? If they can zip through applications in ten days or less, why would they not do this with all applications?

They don't do it with all applicants because it's (probably) burdensome on the admissions staff/process to make a quality decision in such a timely fashion. We were speculating earlier ITT that the PT program increased matriculation and they invited potential applicants that...well, we don't know their reasoning.

Edit: scooped

I think it's a marketing strategy, more or less. I can't really explain the psychology but it's definitely aimed at increasing matriculation for high-scoring applicants, hence why they don't do it for everyone.

This is just a guess, but I would imagine that a lot of PT admits are ones who Duke is at the risk of losing to higher ranked schools (hurting their yield). So PT for those applicants makes sense. And then they do a regular cycle for all applicants for the same reasons other schools do it - sense of the applicant pool, figuring out medians, etc.

This isn't entirely true. I'm above both 75ths, didn't receive a PT invite, and was turned when I solicited one. We've also seen people get PT that are at and below medians. There's a more complex rationale at play, at least a more complex formula of LSAT/GPA.

[Redynsje]

That makes sense. I am >75% on both GPA and LSAT. For some unknown reason, I overlooked the PT option. Now Duke is really one of my top choices and I am in agony sitting around waiting for their decision. I am really ready to move on with my life and start making some decisions!

[nickhalden]

That makes sense. I am >75% on both GPA and LSAT. For some unknown reason, I overlooked the PT option. Now Duke is really one of my top choices and I am in agony sitting around waiting for their decision. I am really ready to move on with my life and start making some decisions!

Well, they overlooked you for PT. They're given out by invitation and I think only KissMyAxe has successfully solicited a PT (and he had unique circumstances). It may be that they view candidates above 75ths as too much of a reach, but candidates like xylocarp received PT invites (albeit early in the cycle). So I don't know. It's definitely an interesting question.

[Scaliafan3421]

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[nickhalden]

At an admissions event held by Duke and a few other law schools, Dean Hoye talked about how they view applicants in context of their undergraduate university (so a 166 LSAT is more impressive if the student comes from a school that has an average LSAT of 150, as opposed to a 168 from Harvard).

That's really interesting! At my undergraduate institution, the median LSAT is a 154 and 6% of alumni scored above 167.

[secadc11]

At an admissions event held by Duke and a few other law schools, Dean Hoye talked about how they view applicants in context of their undergraduate university (so a 166 LSAT is more impressive if the student comes from a school that has an average LSAT of 150, as opposed to a 168 from Harvard).

My guess is that Duke runs some sort of algorithm to send PT invites to applicants that fill a particular percentile within each university.

Does anyone know if Duke increased the number of PT invites sent out this year as compared to last year? I'd be surprised if it actually increased their yield because this system is probably the most blatant example of non-holistic admissions policies I've seen from any school.

Obviously this is just one example, but I did not consider myself a shoe-in for Duke at all and was offered PT, and admitted. I am a splitter with a GPA well below their 25th... so I think either there is some holistic consideration or, as someone mentioned earlier, some sort of complex calculation occurring.

Edit: I should add my undergrad has a high average LSAT.

[nickhalden]

Obviously this is just one example, but I did not consider myself a shoe-in for Duke at all and was offered PT, and admitted. I am a splitter with a GPA well below their 25th... so I think either there is some holistic consideration or, as someone mentioned earlier, some sort of complex calculation occurring.

There can't be a holistic consideration, unless you consider what tincan678 referenced holistic. Duke only has access to your LSAT/GPA when they extend a PT invite, excepting solitications like KissMyAxe made where he provided additional information.

[secadc11]

Obviously this is just one example, but I did not consider myself a shoe-in for Duke at all and was offered PT, and admitted. I am a splitter with a GPA well below their 25th... so I think either there is some holistic consideration or, as someone mentioned earlier, some sort of complex calculation occurring.

There can't be a holistic consideration, unless you consider what tincan678 referenced holistic. Duke only has access to your LSAT/GPA when they extend a PT invite, excepting solitications like KissMyAxe made where he provided additional information.

Looks like it's a calculation then.

[hillz]

At an admissions event held by Duke and a few other law schools, Dean Hoye talked about how they view applicants in context of their undergraduate university (so a 166 LSAT is more impressive if the student comes from a school that has an average LSAT of 150, as opposed to a 168 from Harvard).

That's really interesting! At my undergraduate institution, the median LSAT is a 154 and 6% of alumni scored above 167.

Hmm, there could be something to that. I got offered PT early in the fall before a retake when I had a mid 160s score. The median LSAT at my undergrad is a 152.