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[GodsAndMonsters]

Submitted in early November, interview mid-December, been complete since 01/09. No movement.

I feel pretty good about my numbers, have WE, and I love the school and have showed interest in it for years. But my alumni interview was a train wreck. I mean, *I* did fine, but the interviewer was very late, extremely flustered, and spent half of our time trying to convince me out of attending Northwestern (because he's burdened with loans after going at sticker price). It was difficult to explain that I expected enough aid from NU for that not to be a problem-- the only way to get him to drop the conversation-- without sounding egotistical or like NU is just one of my many schools. I eventually pulled it off by saying I'm willing to take another year and retake the LSAT if that's what I need to do to afford NU. That finally pacified him. Freakin nightmare though.

Deeply hoping this is just general slowness and that my interview didn't earn me a ding.

[LawBron James]

Submitted in early November, interview mid-December, been complete since 01/09. No movement.

I feel pretty good about my numbers, have WE, and I love the school and have showed interest in it for years. But my alumni interview was a train wreck. I mean, *I* did fine, but the interviewer was very late, extremely flustered, and spent half of our time trying to convince me out of attending Northwestern (because he's burdened with loans after going at sticker price). It was difficult to explain that I expected enough aid from NU for that not to be a problem-- the only way to get him to drop the conversation-- without sounding egotistical or like NU is just one of my many schools. I eventually pulled it off by saying I'm willing to take another year and retake the LSAT if that's what I need to do to afford NU. That finally pacified him. Freakin nightmare though.

Deeply hoping this is just general slowness and that my interview didn't earn me a ding.

Wow that's a really bizzare experience to have.

[NoBladesNoBows]

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[NoBladesNoBows]

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[GodsAndMonsters]

Submitted in early November, interview mid-December, been complete since 01/09. No movement.

I feel pretty good about my numbers, have WE, and I love the school and have showed interest in it for years. But my alumni interview was a train wreck. I mean, *I* did fine, but the interviewer was very late, extremely flustered, and spent half of our time trying to convince me out of attending Northwestern (because he's burdened with loans after going at sticker price). It was difficult to explain that I expected enough aid from NU for that not to be a problem-- the only way to get him to drop the conversation-- without sounding egotistical or like NU is just one of my many schools. I eventually pulled it off by saying I'm willing to take another year and retake the LSAT if that's what I need to do to afford NU. That finally pacified him. Freakin nightmare though.

Deeply hoping this is just general slowness and that my interview didn't earn me a ding.

Almost as ridiculous as rkspurs21's Georgetown interview...

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 4#p8349864

I read that one. I think he definitely takes the cake.

My interviewer was honestly quite sweet and not aggressive. He worked at this huge, kinda terrible big law firm in a not-totally-major city, and clearly had gone to law school "just 'cause" without thinking too hard about the long-term impact of that debt. Then he started a family and realized that he was shackled to the work he hated for the foreseeable future (again, all my understanding, based on what he said and the pictures around his office).

He even went so far as to suggest that I should seriously consider attending the regional law school in the area (think mid-thirties in the rankings). I'm sure he was in earnest-- but I have a low 170s score, good grades, and stellar softs, so it was pretty insulting.

He kept saying "don't tell Northwestern I said this, I just always want to look out for the people I interview," and I kept thinking, "dude, whether I get in or not, Northwestern will hear about this the day that I get my answer."

I really wanted to be like, "Don't worry-- I'm not as rash and unintelligent as you were," but I think that's an auto-ding.

[Winston1984]

Submitted in early November, interview mid-December, been complete since 01/09. No movement.

I feel pretty good about my numbers, have WE, and I love the school and have showed interest in it for years. But my alumni interview was a train wreck. I mean, *I* did fine, but the interviewer was very late, extremely flustered, and spent half of our time trying to convince me out of attending Northwestern (because he's burdened with loans after going at sticker price). It was difficult to explain that I expected enough aid from NU for that not to be a problem-- the only way to get him to drop the conversation-- without sounding egotistical or like NU is just one of my many schools. I eventually pulled it off by saying I'm willing to take another year and retake the LSAT if that's what I need to do to afford NU. That finally pacified him. Freakin nightmare though.

Deeply hoping this is just general slowness and that my interview didn't earn me a ding.

Almost as ridiculous as rkspurs21's Georgetown interview...

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 4#p8349864

I read that one. I think he definitely takes the cake.

My interviewer was honestly quite sweet and not aggressive. He worked at this huge, kinda terrible big law firm in a not-totally-major city, and clearly had gone to law school "just 'cause" without thinking too hard about the long-term impact of that debt. Then he started a family and realized that he was shackled to the work he hated for the foreseeable future (again, all my understanding, based on what he said and the pictures around his office).

He even went so far as to suggest that I should seriously consider attending the regional law school in the area (think mid-thirties in the rankings). I'm sure he was in earnest-- but I have a low 170s score, good grades, and stellar softs, so it was pretty insulting.

He kept saying "don't tell Northwestern I said this, I just always want to look out for the people I interview," and I kept thinking, "dude, whether I get in or not, Northwestern will hear about this the day that I get my answer."

I really wanted to be like, "Don't worry-- I'm not as rash and unintelligent as you were," but I think that's an auto-ding.

Christ you sound awful.

[trynalaw123]

Submitted in early November, interview mid-December, been complete since 01/09. No movement.

I feel pretty good about my numbers, have WE, and I love the school and have showed interest in it for years. But my alumni interview was a train wreck. I mean, *I* did fine, but the interviewer was very late, extremely flustered, and spent half of our time trying to convince me out of attending Northwestern (because he's burdened with loans after going at sticker price). It was difficult to explain that I expected enough aid from NU for that not to be a problem-- the only way to get him to drop the conversation-- without sounding egotistical or like NU is just one of my many schools. I eventually pulled it off by saying I'm willing to take another year and retake the LSAT if that's what I need to do to afford NU. That finally pacified him. Freakin nightmare though.

Deeply hoping this is just general slowness and that my interview didn't earn me a ding.

I have a similar background and numbers but had a fairly good interview I would say, and endured silence from mid-November until acceptance a couple of weeks ago! So don't worry! They're just taking their time I think.

[KissMyAxe]

Submitted in early November, interview mid-December, been complete since 01/09. No movement.

I feel pretty good about my numbers, have WE, and I love the school and have showed interest in it for years. But my alumni interview was a train wreck. I mean, *I* did fine, but the interviewer was very late, extremely flustered, and spent half of our time trying to convince me out of attending Northwestern (because he's burdened with loans after going at sticker price). It was difficult to explain that I expected enough aid from NU for that not to be a problem-- the only way to get him to drop the conversation-- without sounding egotistical or like NU is just one of my many schools. I eventually pulled it off by saying I'm willing to take another year and retake the LSAT if that's what I need to do to afford NU. That finally pacified him. Freakin nightmare though.

Deeply hoping this is just general slowness and that my interview didn't earn me a ding.

Almost as ridiculous as rkspurs21's Georgetown interview...

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 4#p8349864

I read that one. I think he definitely takes the cake.

My interviewer was honestly quite sweet and not aggressive. He worked at this huge, kinda terrible big law firm in a not-totally-major city, and clearly had gone to law school "just 'cause" without thinking too hard about the long-term impact of that debt. Then he started a family and realized that he was shackled to the work he hated for the foreseeable future (again, all my understanding, based on what he said and the pictures around his office).

He even went so far as to suggest that I should seriously consider attending the regional law school in the area (think mid-thirties in the rankings). I'm sure he was in earnest-- but I have a low 170s score, good grades, and stellar softs, so it was pretty insulting.

He kept saying "don't tell Northwestern I said this, I just always want to look out for the people I interview," and I kept thinking, "dude, whether I get in or not, Northwestern will hear about this the day that I get my answer."

I really wanted to be like, "Don't worry-- I'm not as rash and unintelligent as you were," but I think that's an auto-ding.

Christ you sound awful.

+1000000

[WhiskeyAndCupcakes]

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[theramblingfool]

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[Winston1984]

Let's not forget that this anecdote's OP fell for the trap of not empathizing with a different viewpoint, which caused him to have hostile feelings toward a guy who had good intentions.

Don't fall for the same trap. OP's intention was to leverage/utilize perceived potential to do well at a good law school and his misinterpretation probably caused him to feel attacked or overly scrutinized in a way.

I think the correct response is to lead him to a better understanding of the interviewer's perspective, not just to chastise him for his visceral response. It'll have better results.

Not sure if serious..

[theramblingfool]

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[LoganCouture]

Let's not forget that this anecdote's OP fell for the trap of not empathizing with a different viewpoint, which caused him to have hostile feelings toward a guy who had good intentions.

Don't fall for the same trap. OP's intention was to leverage/utilize perceived potential to do well at a good law school and his misinterpretation probably caused him to feel attacked or overly scrutinized in a way.

I think the correct response is to lead him to a better understanding of the interviewer's perspective, not just to chastise him for his visceral response. It'll have better results.

Not sure if serious..

We're really good at justifying/rationalizing our own bad behaviors, and we're equally as good at scorning those made by others.

I am simply saying that helping him understand instead of making him feel attacked is more likely to have an outcome in which the OP learns something.

But if you don't actually care, and you just want to criticize, then go ahead. It doesn't actually matter to me what you do.

How do we teach grown adults that calling people "rash and unintelligent" is...socially inappropriate, to say the least?

[mshahsm]

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[Winston1984]

Let's not forget that this anecdote's OP fell for the trap of not empathizing with a different viewpoint, which caused him to have hostile feelings toward a guy who had good intentions.

Don't fall for the same trap. OP's intention was to leverage/utilize perceived potential to do well at a good law school and his misinterpretation probably caused him to feel attacked or overly scrutinized in a way.

I think the correct response is to lead him to a better understanding of the interviewer's perspective, not just to chastise him for his visceral response. It'll have better results.

Not sure if serious..

We're really good at justifying/rationalizing our own bad behaviors, and we're equally as good at scorning those made by others.

I am simply saying that helping him understand instead of making him feel attacked is more likely to have an outcome in which the OP learns something.

But if you don't actually care, and you just want to criticize, then go ahead. It doesn't actually matter to me what you do.

This is good advice for a child. If you are about to enter law school, and you need to be told this, you are probably a shitty person.

[theramblingfool]

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[Winston1984]

He's calling him rash and unintelligent for one of two reasons:

1) he interpreted the guys actions to actually be rash and unintelligent because he felt aggressed against and doesn't like how that's affecting him in this situation
2) he is more prone to seeing things in this way because he's simply arrogant and that's the problem

If (1), then constructively outlining the interviewer's perspective will help. If (2), then nothing will help and you'll just be wasting your breath.

If (1) and you're aggressive, he gets mad and is aggressive back. If (2) and you're aggressive, he gets mad and is aggressive back.

I just think that approaching constructively has better EV given the enumeration of possibilities.

Some people are just assholes, man.

[theramblingfool]

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[theramblingfool]

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[Dipper]

He even went so far as to suggest that I should seriously consider attending the regional law school in the area (think mid-thirties in the rankings).... so it was pretty insulting.

I really wanted to be like, "Don't worry-- I'm not as rash and unintelligent as you were," but I think that's an auto-ding.

Sure sounds like an asshole.

[rkspurs21]

People get really bent out of shape when someone tries to introduce some doubt to their hopeless optimism. Anyway, once I hear someone describe something they've done as "stellar", i'm out.

[rion91]

admissions be like lol when they see the new responses here

[NoBladesNoBows]

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[NotASpecialSnowflake]

This is almost as good as the fight in Chicago's thread about a Ruby scholly being better than Yale. But can we please get back on topic and keep talking about how 160+ scorers have a better chance for acceptance than ever this year? That was much more fun to read

[Winston1984]

Ehh it's very easy to come off overly insensitive on the internet, let's not blow this out of proportion. I try to reserve the title of "just shitty person" for people that burn Jordanian pilots alive in a cage.

But that being said, I humbly request a departure from the topic of moral character and a return to the topic of applying to NWU Law.

I think we can call ISIS militants more than just shitty people..