Fordham DOES negotiate. Although they dont have top much money to throw around, I know quite a few 1Ls who successfully managed it. I emailed Espiritu for everything (sorry Espiritu).SmbdyBringMeSomeHam wrote:I spoke with Dean Brown in his office and he definitively told me that they do not negotiateunitedfrutopia wrote:Anyone know who the contact person would be for scholarship negotiations w/Fordham?
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Why is it that "sense of community" is something worth arguing into the ground over? One poster claimed Fordham had a strong sense of community, I say it doesn't. If others want to opine, I think thats reasonable, but "Dont listen to Mr. Anon" like i'm some sort of fool is uncalled for. I know the situation just as well as you do, so buzz off, i'm entitled to express my opinion. There may be a whole bunch of people who are drawn to school in NYC because they don't want the typical school experience or typical school community. If you want to relax on the quad with your buddies, go to Vanderbilt. if you want a stranger to tell you your opinion about something as subjective as school community is not worth being heard, go to Fordham.
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^ I'm fairly certain that wasn't directed at me since I think we had a reasonably friendly exchange. I will say, unless you go to Fordham Law, you really can't judge the sense of community.
I was pretty bummed Fordham lacked a large campus and everything that goes along with that. However, within the first week I found it impossible not to be social and constantly engaged with my classmates (no matter how hard I tried). If anything my biggest complaint about Fordham is its too damn social and there's too much fun to be had. Well, aside from the complaint that not all the bathrooms have hooks in the stalls of course.
I was pretty bummed Fordham lacked a large campus and everything that goes along with that. However, within the first week I found it impossible not to be social and constantly engaged with my classmates (no matter how hard I tried). If anything my biggest complaint about Fordham is its too damn social and there's too much fun to be had. Well, aside from the complaint that not all the bathrooms have hooks in the stalls of course.
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Did you not make friends? Or secure a job? You seem to be quite bitter about your decision to go to Fordham (if you even go here).MrAnon wrote:Why is it that "sense of community" is something worth arguing into the ground over? One poster claimed Fordham had a strong sense of community, I say it doesn't. If others want to opine, I think thats reasonable, but "Dont listen to Mr. Anon" like i'm some sort of fool is uncalled for. I know the situation just as well as you do, so buzz off, i'm entitled to express my opinion. There may be a whole bunch of people who are drawn to school in NYC because they don't want the typical school experience or typical school community. If you want to relax on the quad with your buddies, go to Vanderbilt. if you want a stranger to tell you your opinion about something as subjective as school community is not worth being heard, go to Fordham.
Every single person I have talked to, no matter what year they are, has said Fordham has a very strong sense of community. You're entitled to state your opinion, but when everyone else's first hand opinion is the exact opposite of yours, your opinion doesn't (or shouldn't) hold much weight to the person who asked the question. I was just letting the question asker know that.
If you don't actually go to Fordham, I am really confused as to why you are on the Fordham boards consistently posting negatively every opportunity you get. I'm also confused as to why you are answering questions about the school that you aren't in a position to answer.
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I'm getting kind of worried with what I'm hearing about Fordham's lack of merit aid. Sounds like a number of people with significant offers from similarly-ranked and even slightly higher-ranked schools are getting stonewalled in negotiations.
I have personal reasons to really want Fordham, but if I'm going to pay full price I might as well go to GULC and maximize my chances of being able to finance my education. I'm really hoping Fordham makes the decision a little easier for me...
I have personal reasons to really want Fordham, but if I'm going to pay full price I might as well go to GULC and maximize my chances of being able to finance my education. I'm really hoping Fordham makes the decision a little easier for me...
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"your file has been been waitlisted"
thats their typo, not mine
166/3.32 i guess ill get working on that LOCI, fordham was at the top of my list

thats their typo, not mine

166/3.32 i guess ill get working on that LOCI, fordham was at the top of my list
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Sorry to hear it, GL on getting off the WL.john1990 wrote:"your file has been been waitlisted"![]()
thats their typo, not mine![]()
166/3.32 i guess ill get working on that LOCI, fordham was at the top of my list
I don't see a typo... are you referring to "waitlisted"? It seems that that's kind of a standard non-standard word in the context of college admissions. It's probably not in the dictionary, but everyone uses it.
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Been is there twice, easy to miss.
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the double use of the word "been"cogitoergosum wrote:Sorry to hear it, GL on getting off the WL.john1990 wrote:"your file has been been waitlisted"![]()
thats their typo, not mine![]()
166/3.32 i guess ill get working on that LOCI, fordham was at the top of my list
I don't see a typo... are you referring to "waitlisted"? It seems that that's kind of a standard non-standard word in the context of college admissions. It's probably not in the dictionary, but everyone uses it.
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The word 'been' occurs twice in that sentence. Don't worry, I've read studies where they found that our minds are actually conditioned to remove redundant words (especially 'the' and 'and').cogitoergosum wrote:I don't see a typojohn1990 wrote:"your file has been been waitlisted"![]()
thats their typo, not mine![]()
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+1JenDarby wrote:Been is there twice, easy to miss.
hard to miss if its in your application status though lol
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RC fail... facepalm....JenDarby wrote:Been is there twice, easy to miss.
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Ah, don't say that! I think Fordham's worth the extra debt, if only because it's in NYC and has a great employment rate. Also, it has a great sense of community! (Sorry, had to.)cogitoergosum wrote:I'm getting kind of worried with what I'm hearing about Fordham's lack of merit aid. Sounds like a number of people with significant offers from similarly-ranked and even slightly higher-ranked schools are getting stonewalled in negotiations.
I have personal reasons to really want Fordham, but if I'm going to pay full price I might as well go to GULC and maximize my chances of being able to finance my education. I'm really hoping Fordham makes the decision a little easier for me...
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- JenDarby
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Ha for sure. Good luck. If they are your number one, or one of them, than say that in your LOCI. They pull a lot from the WL around May, so don't lose hope!john1990 wrote:+1JenDarby wrote:Been is there twice, easy to miss.
hard to miss if its in your application status though lol
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Haha yea it took me a few seconds to see it. Most likely, the "your file has been" is automatic, and they fill in the rest.cogitoergosum wrote:RC fail... facepalm....JenDarby wrote:Been is there twice, easy to miss.
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SmbdyBringMeSomeHam wrote:Ah, don't say that! I think Fordham's worth the extra debt, if only because it's in NYC and has a great employment rate. Also, it has a great sense of community! (Sorry, had to.)cogitoergosum wrote:I'm getting kind of worried with what I'm hearing about Fordham's lack of merit aid. Sounds like a number of people with significant offers from similarly-ranked and even slightly higher-ranked schools are getting stonewalled in negotiations.
I have personal reasons to really want Fordham, but if I'm going to pay full price I might as well go to GULC and maximize my chances of being able to finance my education. I'm really hoping Fordham makes the decision a little easier for me...

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I am very debt adverse, but took on a little extra for Fordham compared to my other offers because NY made the most sense for my personal life and employment prospects were better than higher ranked schools (if you want to be in NY that is). If you look at the firms that interview at Fordham compared to some higher ranked schools theres a pretty marked difference. I'm not talking T-10 here or anything so let's not go THERE. I'm talking WUSTL on down.SmbdyBringMeSomeHam wrote:Ah, don't say that! I think Fordham's worth the extra debt, if only because it's in NYC and has a great employment rate. Also, it has a great sense of community! (Sorry, had to.)
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I agree that, all things being equal between Fordham and WUSTL on down, Fordham wins hands down, and that Fordham beats out a number of even higher-ranked schools. I definitely get the merits of Fordham, and have been into Fordham for a number of years now, so I'm not downing Fordham here, but doesn't GULC have a pretty solid leg up on Fordham for NYC biglaw placement?JenDarby wrote:I am very debt adverse, but took on a little extra for Fordham compared to my other offers because NY made the most sense for my personal life and employment prospects were better than higher ranked schools (if you want to be in NY that is). If you look at the firms that interview at Fordham compared to some higher ranked schools theres a pretty marked difference. I'm not talking T-10 here or anything so let's not go THERE. I'm talking WUSTL on down.SmbdyBringMeSomeHam wrote:Ah, don't say that! I think Fordham's worth the extra debt, if only because it's in NYC and has a great employment rate. Also, it has a great sense of community! (Sorry, had to.)
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To be honest, I didn't apply to GULC. I had zero desire to be in DC and figured I'd end up paying sticker there, which I wasn't going to do. Hopefully someone else can weigh in on this!
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I'd say contact GULC and get their stats on where people work after graduation. I'm sure a lot of them stay in D.C., but NY might be the second city with the highest after-grad employment rate. Is GULC giving you more money?cogitoergosum wrote:I agree that, all things being equal between Fordham and WUSTL on down, Fordham wins hands down, and that Fordham beats out a number of even higher-ranked schools. I definitely get the merits of Fordham, and have been into Fordham for a number of years now, so I'm not downing Fordham here, but doesn't GULC have a pretty solid leg up on Fordham for NYC biglaw placement?JenDarby wrote:I am very debt adverse, but took on a little extra for Fordham compared to my other offers because NY made the most sense for my personal life and employment prospects were better than higher ranked schools (if you want to be in NY that is). If you look at the firms that interview at Fordham compared to some higher ranked schools theres a pretty marked difference. I'm not talking T-10 here or anything so let's not go THERE. I'm talking WUSTL on down.SmbdyBringMeSomeHam wrote:Ah, don't say that! I think Fordham's worth the extra debt, if only because it's in NYC and has a great employment rate. Also, it has a great sense of community! (Sorry, had to.)
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Thank yah! But that score STILL wouldn't get me a full scholarship at Fordham.cogitoergosum wrote:SmbdyBringMeSomeHam wrote:Ah, don't say that! I think Fordham's worth the extra debt, if only because it's in NYC and has a great employment rate. Also, it has a great sense of community! (Sorry, had to.)cogitoergosum wrote:I'm getting kind of worried with what I'm hearing about Fordham's lack of merit aid. Sounds like a number of people with significant offers from similarly-ranked and even slightly higher-ranked schools are getting stonewalled in negotiations.
I have personal reasons to really want Fordham, but if I'm going to pay full price I might as well go to GULC and maximize my chances of being able to finance my education. I'm really hoping Fordham makes the decision a little easier for me...I like this. I give it a 174.
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Is this for need-based aid?citygirl000 wrote:Has anyone filled out the financial aid application? It seems that you have to send a ridiculous amount of stuff to them... i.e., bank account statements... seriously?! Is it even worth it?
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It's for need-based aid only.citygirl000 wrote:Maybe?! It just says it's part of the financial applications for Fordham - this form and FAFSAcogitoergosum wrote:Is this for need-based aid?citygirl000 wrote:Has anyone filled out the financial aid application? It seems that you have to send a ridiculous amount of stuff to them... i.e., bank account statements... seriously?! Is it even worth it?
It is not for a merit scholarship
I've filled it out, although I had problems with some of the questions (don't ask)
I did not find that they're asking for a ridiculout amount of stuff, they're asking:
1) what are your needs
2) what are your assets
3) what are you able to raise (including questions re parental support)
The only verification they ask is a complete copy of your (and your parents) tax return, including W2.
They do not ask for your bank account statements, or any other verification. However, they recommend you have that information at hand when you start to prepare the form.
I work in finance and the amount of information/verification we ask of our clients (who are giving us money) is far more rigorous than this.
If you do not think it's worth it, by all means, don't fill out an application for NEED-BASED AID.
Because, well, if you don't think it's worth it, you obviously don't NEED it and should just hope for merit aid.
Trust me, if you need the money, it's worth it.
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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