Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle) Forum

[admisionquestion]

I got sick of relying on this thread so heavily for my nerves... So I decided to do a bit of LSN data mining. As always this data is biased in the normal LSN ways. Here goes the results:





22 accepted out of 62 URM's who had not recieved a decision by todays date in any of the past 4 cycles.

Of those who did not have decision by this date in the past 4 cycles the mean LSAT was 166 and the mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted the LSAT was 168 and GPA was 3.7

In total there were 180 URM's from the past 4 cycles. 42 of them were accepted. And 2/3 of the applicants got their decision by this date. Their mean LSAT was 166 and their mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted, their mean LSAT was was 168.8 and their mean GPA was 3.6.

[txl]

I got sick of relying on this thread so heavily for my nerves... So I decided to do a bit of LSN data mining. As always this data is biased in the normal LSN ways. Here goes the results:





22 accepted out of 62 URM's who had not recieved a decision by todays date in any of the past 4 cycles.

Of those who did not have decision by this date in the past 4 cycles the mean LSAT was 166 and the mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted the LSAT was 168 and GPA was 3.7

In total there were 180 URM's from the past 4 cycles. 42 of them were accepted. And 2/3 of the applicants got their decision by this date. Their mean LSAT was 166 and their mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted, their mean LSAT was was 168.8 and their mean GPA was 3.6.

Willing to extract this data on the non-urm sample? This thread would love you...

[EvelynS]

I got sick of relying on this thread so heavily for my nerves... So I decided to do a bit of LSN data mining. As always this data is biased in the normal LSN ways. Here goes the results:





22 accepted out of 62 URM's who had not recieved a decision by todays date in any of the past 4 cycles.

Of those who did not have decision by this date in the past 4 cycles the mean LSAT was 166 and the mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted the LSAT was 168 and GPA was 3.7

In total there were 180 URM's from the past 4 cycles. 42 of them were accepted. And 2/3 of the applicants got their decision by this date. Their mean LSAT was 166 and their mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted, their mean LSAT was was 168.8 and their mean GPA was 3.6.

Willing to extract this data on the non-urm sample? This thread would love you...

+1

[Genki]

Well, I think I logged into my status checker about 25 times today and my admission to Stanford Law is still Complete.
Looks like I survived another day.

[hypothalamus]

Well, I think I logged into my status checker about 25 times today and my admission to Stanford Law is still Complete.
Looks like I survived another day.

I think they should change the little line from "Your application has been submitted for review" to "You have not been rejected yet."
They mean the same thing anyway...

[backwards54]

So if I went UR late September and am still UR, what does this mean? Am I essentially being held?

You are an URM right? You may get your decision when Stanford releases its urm batch. But don't worry I think you will be fine. It's Stanford we can't question the almighty Stanford.

That's the thing, I'm Hispanic, but I'm not a URM... maybe Stanford considers me one anyway? lol

I am Canadian and my first language is not English (french canadian). Do you think they'll consider me a URM ?

[soj]

So if I went UR late September and am still UR, what does this mean? Am I essentially being held?

You are an URM right? You may get your decision when Stanford releases its urm batch. But don't worry I think you will be fine. It's Stanford we can't question the almighty Stanford.

That's the thing, I'm Hispanic, but I'm not a URM... maybe Stanford considers me one anyway? lol

I am Canadian and my first language is not English (french canadian). Do you think they'll consider me a URM ?

Only AA/black, NA/aboriginal, MA/Mexican, or Puerto Rican applicants are URMs.

[FryBreadPower]

I got sick of relying on this thread so heavily for my nerves... So I decided to do a bit of LSN data mining. As always this data is biased in the normal LSN ways. Here goes the results:





22 accepted out of 62 URM's who had not recieved a decision by todays date in any of the past 4 cycles.

Of those who did not have decision by this date in the past 4 cycles the mean LSAT was 166 and the mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted the LSAT was 168 and GPA was 3.7

In total there were 180 URM's from the past 4 cycles. 42 of them were accepted. And 2/3 of the applicants got their decision by this date. Their mean LSAT was 166 and their mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted, their mean LSAT was was 168.8 and their mean GPA was 3.6.

I'm actually surprised the numbers aren't higher than that to tell you the truth.

[amc987]

I'm actually surprised the numbers aren't higher than that to tell you the truth.

I feel like that data set just shows that Stanford makes equally kooky (or holistic depending on who you talk to) decisions on URM applications as it does on non-URM applications. Just in this small LSN sample, Stanford took kdubb (3.67, 161) and EveNo (3.6, 164), rejected OldLaw (3.78, 173), OperationAwesome (3.92, 168) and LaMar (3.6, 171), and WL'd giantswin (3.3, 167) and jasmoon (3.8, 169).

I guess there has to be some deviation in that Stanford is notoriously big on candidates with strong soft factors. We also don't know what URM types of all of these were; it could be that one was non-URM Hispanic and one was an AA male, so their respective decisions could partly reflect the different boosts they got. However, even accounting for all those unknowns there's really no way to know based on numbers who would've received which decision and when they'd have received it.

Maybe in my next life I'll be a fly on the wall in an admissions office or something. It'd sure be interesting to know exactly what gets said behind closed doors and how those decisions are actually made.

[FryBreadPower]

I'm actually surprised the numbers aren't higher than that to tell you the truth.

I feel like that data set just shows that Stanford makes equally kooky (or holistic depending on who you talk to) decisions on URM applications as it does on non-URM applications. Just in this small LSN sample, Stanford took kdubb (3.67, 161) and EveNo (3.6, 164), rejected OldLaw (3.78, 173), OperationAwesome (3.92, 168) and LaMar (3.6, 171), and WL'd giantswin (3.3, 167) and jasmoon (3.8, 169).

I guess there has to be some deviation in that Stanford is notoriously big on candidates with strong soft factors. We also don't know what URM types of all of these were; it could be that one was non-URM Hispanic and one was an AA male, so their respective decisions could partly reflect the different boosts they got. However, even accounting for all those unknowns there's really no way to know based on numbers who would've received which decision and when they'd have received it.

Maybe in my next life I'll be a fly on the wall in an admissions office or something. It'd sure be interesting to know exactly what gets said behind closed doors and how those decisions are actually made.

I guess it wouldn't take much effort/know-how to look up each candidate and pull their URM status. Maybe I will do that when I'm bored at work

[jim-green]

I remember a Dean Deal blog post in which she says it is OK to send in a LOCI if one hasn't heard from SLS in a while. Anyone have the link to that? Also, does SLS prefer LOCIs by e-mail or US mail? Schools are different in this regard: Penn prefers e-mail, but Harvard prefers US mail.

[ladeornmc]

I got sick of relying on this thread so heavily for my nerves... So I decided to do a bit of LSN data mining. As always this data is biased in the normal LSN ways. Here goes the results:





22 accepted out of 62 URM's who had not recieved a decision by todays date in any of the past 4 cycles.

Of those who did not have decision by this date in the past 4 cycles the mean LSAT was 166 and the mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted the LSAT was 168 and GPA was 3.7

In total there were 180 URM's from the past 4 cycles. 42 of them were accepted. And 2/3 of the applicants got their decision by this date. Their mean LSAT was 166 and their mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted, their mean LSAT was was 168.8 and their mean GPA was 3.6.

I'm actually surprised the numbers aren't higher than that to tell you the truth.

+1

[seanPtheB]

I remember a Dean Deal blog post in which she says it is OK to send in a LOCI if one hasn't heard from SLS in a while. Anyone have the link to that? Also, does SLS prefer LOCIs by e-mail or US mail? Schools are different in this regard: Penn prefers e-mail, but Harvard prefers US mail.

I called the other day and was told that email is the best way.

[admisionquestion]

http://blogs.law.stanford.edu/admission ... ello-2011/

I believe either mail or email is fine.

[lefty20]

On LSN, it looks like two people were accepted today. That's some good news for the first time in a while. Maybe this afternoon will be rewarding.

[kindaklueless]

Long-time lurker here (in at Michigan/NYU/Columbia, waitlisted at Chicago, dream school is Stanford). I submitted in late Nov and went UR on 12/7. About the right time to send a LOCI (I know Stanford doesn't necessarily make decisions by submit date so I didn't want to look too desperate)?

[Green Glass Windows]

DLS. No surprises there.

[Elendil]

DLS. No surprises there.

Sorry to hear that, mind sharing UR date?

[aekea]

Decision letter sent here as well. Complete 12/2. Good luck everyone!

[Green Glass Windows]

DLS. No surprises there.

Sorry to hear that, mind sharing UR date?

12/5

[curiouscat]

Sorry to hear about the DLSes today.
Kindaklueless, Stanford doesn't really go in order but so far the dings this month have been going roughly by submit date. We seem to be right around the December people right now. You might want to wait until it looks like they're finished with the December dings, just to see if it's still relevant for you to write it. Otherwise, yes, if you've got a good LOCI in mind, go for it. Good luck!

[Elendil]

Really sorry to hear, guys.

Dare I say that my late November complete date has been passed over, for now?

[kindaklueless]

Sorry to hear about the DLSes today.
Kindaklueless, Stanford doesn't really go in order but so far the dings this month have been going roughly by submit date. We seem to be right around the December people right now. You might want to wait until it looks like they're finished with the December dings, just to see if it's still relevant for you to write it. Otherwise, yes, if you've got a good LOCI in mind, go for it. Good luck!

Thanks. I'll probably send it by the end of the week. Dean Deal's insistence, in her blog, on keeping in touch/courting SLS even when just under review drove me to write it since I didn't want to appear less proactive than the other people probably taking that advice.

[Elric]

Checking in. Went complete 1/27 and no movement so far...just want to keep my eyes peeled

[curiouscat]

Really sorry to hear, guys.

Dare I say that my late November complete date has been passed over, for now?

Possibly, though with your numbers I would have been really surprised if you were in this round of rejections.