Fordham Waiting Room Forum

jk11287 · Post by **jk11287** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:46 pm

still no status checker update...i wonder if this means they haven't gotten to me yet, or if i should be waiting for a rejection email.

nygrrrl · Post by **nygrrrl** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:46 pm

clem21 wrote:ACCEPTEDACCEPTEDACCEPTED!!!!

FT, 166, 3.6

so excited right now!!!!

Congratulations!!!!!!

Katerina · Post by **Katerina** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:46 pm

Just went on LSN and found out that one of my number twins was WLd...

Desperately trying convince myself that I'm special and will get in.

Being a Splitter really sucks sometimes

tesoro · Post by **tesoro** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:47 pm

clem21 wrote:ACCEPTEDACCEPTEDACCEPTED!!!!

FT, 166, 3.6

so excited right now!!!!

Congrats clem

H. E. Pennypacker · Post by **H. E. Pennypacker** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:48 pm

RubyDoomsday wrote:
H. E. Pennypacker wrote:WL has to mean deferral. It HAS to.
Agreed, it means "You might get into a better school, or we might get better applicants....so just hang out"

Well I can pretty much assure them right now that I will NOT be getting into a better school. Your move, Fordham. Accept away!

jk11287 · Post by **jk11287** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:49 pm

It just really doesn't make any sense to me. If it really is all about the numbers, they should do the math; because a 177/2.9 or whatever will raise their LSAT median a lot more than it will damage their GPA median.

HJO · Post by **HJO** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:50 pm

RubyDoomsday wrote:
H. E. Pennypacker wrote:WL has to mean deferral. It HAS to.
Agreed, it means "You might get into a better school, or we might get better applicants....so just hang out"

+1 thats what it has to be.

no one has gotten defered have they?

km23 · Post by **km23** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:52 pm

Encyclopedia Brown · Post by **Encyclopedia Brown** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:53 pm

jk11287 wrote:It just really doesn't make any sense to me. If it really is all about the numbers, they should do the math; because a 177/2.9 or whatever will raise their LSAT median a lot more than it will damage their GPA median.

One would think.

MC Southstar · Post by **MC Southstar** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:54 pm

Encyclopedia Brown wrote:
jk11287 wrote:It just really doesn't make any sense to me. If it really is all about the numbers, they should do the math; because a 177/2.9 or whatever will raise their LSAT median a lot more than it will damage their GPA median.
One would think.

I find your WL even more bizarre.

tesoro · Post by **tesoro** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:54 pm

jk11287 wrote:It just really doesn't make any sense to me. If it really is all about the numbers, they should do the math; because a 177/2.9 or whatever will raise their LSAT median a lot more than it will damage their GPA median.

Not true. given the nature of medians, a 177 will raise the LSAT median by the same amount as a 169 would. This is of course making a reasonable assumption that Fordham's median LSAT will not rise by more than two points in one year (This is reasonable because it hasn't happened in the recent past).

Likewise, the same logic dictates that a 2.9 will damage the GPA median exactly the same as a 3.1.

Fordham's strategy here appears to be preserving the current medians by admitting those at and above both GPA and LSAT medians. There are very few outliers from this mix so far.

rockthelaw · Post by **rockthelaw** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:55 pm

RubyDoomsday wrote:
H. E. Pennypacker wrote:WL has to mean deferral. It HAS to.
Agreed, it means "You might get into a better school, or we might get better applicants....so just hang out"

Yeah, really frustrating. But at least you're still in the game on the waitlist.

finalaspects · Post by **finalaspects** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:57 pm

tesoro wrote:
jk11287 wrote:It just really doesn't make any sense to me. If it really is all about the numbers, they should do the math; because a 177/2.9 or whatever will raise their LSAT median a lot more than it will damage their GPA median.
Not true. given the nature of medians, a 177 will raise the LSAT median by the same amount as a 169 would. This is of course making a reasonable assumption that Fordham's median LSAT will not rise by more than two points in one year (This is reasonable because it hasn't happened in the recent past).

Likewise, the same logic dictates that a 2.9 will damage the GPA median exactly the same as a 3.1.

Fordham's strategy here appears to be preserving the current medians by admitting those at and above both GPA and LSAT medians. There are very few outliers from this mix so far.

yes this is true. 177 is no different from 168 if they are trying to raise their 166 lsat median.

jk11287 · Post by **jk11287** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:58 pm

Ok, I guess you're right. I was thinking about averages.

But potentially turning down MANY above-median LSATs does hurt it.

RubyDoomsday · Post by **RubyDoomsday** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:59 pm

jk11287 wrote:Ok, I guess you're right. I was thinking about averages.

But potentially turning down MANY above-median LSATs does hurt it.

But no one has been turned down, and I think we are all pretty sure WL means deffered to regular admission

frix0803 · Post by **frix0803** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:01 pm

RubyDoomsday wrote:
jk11287 wrote:Ok, I guess you're right. I was thinking about averages.

But potentially turning down MANY above-median LSATs does hurt it.
But no one has been turned down, and I think we are all pretty sure WL means deffered to regular admission

can anyone confirm this?

robin600 · Post by **robin600** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:01 pm

"This is a rant read at your own pleasure/caution"
I get so pissed when law schools only care about your numbers. I am blind and I worked my ass off so hard to get to where I am today and I think that should count for something, but it doesn't. It really upsets me that law schools only care about their medians when great people are out there who have significant challenges to face that will be great lawyers some day, but may not have the chance to because of this number system.

end of rant.

Encyclopedia Brown · Post by **Encyclopedia Brown** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:02 pm

shadowfrost000 wrote:
Encyclopedia Brown wrote:
jk11287 wrote:It just really doesn't make any sense to me. If it really is all about the numbers, they should do the math; because a 177/2.9 or whatever will raise their LSAT median a lot more than it will damage their GPA median.
One would think.
I find your WL even more bizarre.

So what's your plan, shadow? Wait for the letter in the mail, maybe send an LOCI in response?

MC Southstar · Post by **MC Southstar** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:04 pm

Encyclopedia Brown wrote:
shadowfrost000 wrote:
Encyclopedia Brown wrote:
jk11287 wrote:It just really doesn't make any sense to me. If it really is all about the numbers, they should do the math; because a 177/2.9 or whatever will raise their LSAT median a lot more than it will damage their GPA median.
One would think.
I find your WL even more bizarre.
So what's your plan, shadow? Wait for the letter in the mail, maybe send an LOCI in response?

Hm. Probably, yup.

RubyDoomsday · Post by **RubyDoomsday** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:06 pm

For those of us still in limbo: What's the plan?

I am thinking of asking someone to make a call....is this too deperate this early in the game?

Dionysus · Post by **Dionysus** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:08 pm

Waitlisted today, 168 3.18 FT.

Looks like us splitters are in for a long and stressful cycle.

rjp88 · Post by **rjp88** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:09 pm

waitlisted: 164/3.52

what does YP mean?

Whats an URM? · Post by **Whats an URM?** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:18 pm

Just curious, but did any splitters waitlisted at Fordham today have it as one of their top 3 choices? I didn't. At least not without significant dough. I think Fordham made the correct decision with me. This does give me the chance to check out my other acceptances/denials, research schools more, and return to Fordham with LOCIs if my interest has gained, and it gives Fordham the chance to wait for equally qualified applicants who have a real enthusiasm about their law school. Just sayin'.

I did not write an optional essay and I revealed other schools I applied to. I believe these two factors contributed to the decision to waitlist my application. If you really want to go to Fordham and you are on the waitlist, I think you have a strong chance of being accepted if you follow up with LOCIs that show a real dedication to Fordham Law School.

mdgold · Post by **mdgold** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:33 pm

I called and waitlist is regular waitlist, not deferral. They didn't ask for my name or anything

jk11287 · Post by **jk11287** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:34 pm

RubyDoomsday wrote:
jk11287 wrote:Ok, I guess you're right. I was thinking about averages.

But potentially turning down MANY above-median LSATs does hurt it.
But no one has been turned down, and I think we are all pretty sure WL means deffered to regular admission

That's why I said potential, but seriously, WL doesn't necessarily mean deferral...it most likely just means waitlist.

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