UVA c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016) Forum

doublehoohopeful · Post by **doublehoohopeful** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:06 pm

urbanist11 wrote:Well this thread took a strange turn

How is it strange? When you choose to go to law school, you're spending a considerable portion of your 20s there, a time when many people are exploring relationships. It seems like a pretty normal topic to me.

urbanist11 · Post by **urbanist11** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:15 pm

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alpha kenny body · Post by **alpha kenny body** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:19 pm

urbanist11 wrote:
doublehoohopeful wrote:
urbanist11 wrote:Well this thread took a strange turn
How is it strange? When you choose to go to law school, you're spending a considerable portion of your 20s there, a time when many people are exploring relationships. It seems like a pretty normal topic to me.
I don't think it's going to be a problem to meet people at UVA. It's a big university. To worry about that based on a gender split of one class of the law school is a little crazy to me.

Nobody is genuinely worried about that, because the majority of us would attend there regardless; we're simply pointing out the fact. The University itself as a whole may be big, however, the Law School isn't. Remember, the puzzle doesn't equal a piece, and vice versa.

doublehoohopeful · Post by **doublehoohopeful** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:25 pm

fips tedora wrote: Nobody is genuinely worried about that, because the majority of us would attend there regardless; we're simply pointing out the fact. The University itself as a whole may be big, however, the Law School isn't. Remember, the puzzle doesn't equal a piece, and vice versa.

Besides, I think it is overwhelmingly recommended that law school relationships are to be avoided like the plague. Due to the size and structure of sections and the school in general, it is like high school all over again, except you're competing for class rank and jobs.

Hildegard15 · Post by **Hildegard15** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:26 pm

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whacka · Post by **whacka** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:30 pm

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doublehoohopeful · Post by **doublehoohopeful** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:35 pm

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I wouldn't count them out just yet - maybe you should call the admissions office and discuss this with them? They might be able to give you some insight into why it happened and how this year's class shaped up. I definitely understand having gender disparity as a deal breaker, but maybe the statistics aren't all that they seem?

Agreed. That seems a bit premature. The earlier class breakdowns mirror other schools in the T14. I'm not sure I'd call the admissions office, but I'd at least wait and see how the 2018 statistics shape up before doing anything.

Generally · Post by **Generally** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:36 pm

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Hildegard15 · Post by **Hildegard15** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:00 pm

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Generally · Post by **Generally** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:04 pm

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doublehoohopeful · Post by **doublehoohopeful** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:08 pm

Seamus887 wrote:
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whacka wrote:
I wouldn't count them out just yet - maybe you should call the admissions office and discuss this with them? They might be able to give you some insight into why it happened and how this year's class shaped up. I definitely understand having gender disparity as a deal breaker, but maybe the statistics aren't all that they seem?
I'm sorry I think this is foolish. Just knocking a school off the list because one year has like 4% less women than the average in law school classes? I agree, if it is troubling for you, then you should contact them and talk about it to see what other factors might have created that years class, rather then just reading something into it about them not caring about having women in the school.
I appreciate that this may seem premature to some, but it's also a convenient way to try to limit the schools to which I'm applying. It is troubling enough to me that I am not convinced I would choose it over some of the other schools I'm looking at, so it seems worthwhile for me to just knock them off my list rather than spend the money to throw an app their way.
You can decide whatever schools you want and consider any factors you want, but it would be a lot wiser to consider more substantive things, like employment and actual school culture, not inferred school culture.

UVA is also known to be extremely generous with fee waivers, so applying only costs you 20 bucks and change and some time. That could then in turn be used in scholarship negotiation, but you do you.

benwyatt · Post by **benwyatt** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:10 pm

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Generally · Post by **Generally** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:15 pm

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Hildegard15 · Post by **Hildegard15** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:16 pm

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alpha kenny body · Post by **alpha kenny body** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:17 pm

It was most likely just an outlier year. Something something not making mountains out of mole hills something something.

benwyatt · Post by **benwyatt** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:20 pm

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doublehoohopeful · Post by **doublehoohopeful** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:22 pm

benwyatt wrote:
Hildegard15 wrote:
That is actually very good information. I really appreciate that. That's part of the reason I kept checking this thread. You guys always bring up points that I haven't considered. Thank you!
I'm glad you're not feeling attacked by our barrage!
I think we're all just trying to be supportive but I know TLS can sometimes pile on a bit much.
Like I said, totally your call, but it can't hurt to collect some more info before you write the school off.

I feel like the applicant threads (minus the compendium) should be no blast zones. Can we agree to a non-proliferation agreement?

benwyatt · Post by **benwyatt** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:24 pm

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Generally · Post by **Generally** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:26 pm

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Hildegard15 · Post by **Hildegard15** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:26 pm

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benwyatt · Post by **benwyatt** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:27 pm

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Ron Howard · Post by **Ron Howard** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:32 pm

Hildegard15 wrote:
doublehoohopeful wrote:
Seamus887 wrote:
Hildegard15 wrote:
Seamus887 wrote:
whacka wrote:
I wouldn't count them out just yet - maybe you should call the admissions office and discuss this with them? They might be able to give you some insight into why it happened and how this year's class shaped up. I definitely understand having gender disparity as a deal breaker, but maybe the statistics aren't all that they seem?
I'm sorry I think this is foolish. Just knocking a school off the list because one year has like 4% less women than the average in law school classes? I agree, if it is troubling for you, then you should contact them and talk about it to see what other factors might have created that years class, rather then just reading something into it about them not caring about having women in the school.
I appreciate that this may seem premature to some, but it's also a convenient way to try to limit the schools to which I'm applying. It is troubling enough to me that I am not convinced I would choose it over some of the other schools I'm looking at, so it seems worthwhile for me to just knock them off my list rather than spend the money to throw an app their way.
You can decide whatever schools you want and consider any factors you want, but it would be a lot wiser to consider more substantive things, like employment and actual school culture, not inferred school culture.
UVA is also known to be extremely generous with fee waivers, so applying only costs you 20 bucks and change and some time. That could then in turn be used in scholarship negotiation, but you do you.
That is actually very good information. I really appreciate that. That's part of the reason I kept checking this thread. You guys always bring up points that I haven't considered. Thank you!

I will add one more thing. Not only was last year an outlier from the normal sex ratio, which is normally indistinguishable from others T14s, but the admissions department replaced the dean of admissions from that year (possibly for that and related reasons) and is now under new leadership. There are many reasons to pick UVA, and, like every other law school (including YHS) reasons not to pick it. Your reason is not one, especially since it was fluke, which was most likely corrected.

salander · Post by **salander** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:20 pm

Hildegard15 wrote:By posting about this I have gained various things: I am slowly getting closer to 100 posts, I brought this thread away from the seducing undergrads topic and now I have good reasons to keep UVA on my list. Thanks again!

+1 about moving this thread away from the seducing undergrads topic. Guys, I'm still an undergrad

Ron Howard · Post by **Ron Howard** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:24 pm

Good idea. 0Ls, just read about Charlottesville (http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/insider/intro.htm) or something.

Hildegard15 · Post by **Hildegard15** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:31 pm

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