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Special AUSA to AUSA - possible?
As a Special AUSA in General Crimes detailed from another agency for one year in a competitive AUSA market (SDNY, NDIL, DDC, etc.), how difficult would it be to convert that to a real AUSA position in the Criminal Division at the same district down the line? Is that typically frowned upon by the detailing agency / likely to burn bridges? Or is it a pretty worn path?
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Re: Special AUSA to AUSA - possible?
Some USAOs have a policy of not hiring SAUSA as AUSAs at their office. So check on that. I can say anecdotally it appears SAUSA in district A-> AUSA in district B is more common than what you described.
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Yeah, I agree with this. The AUSAs I know who had been detailed as SAUSAs from another agency before becoming an AUSA had all moved districts rather than moving into an AUSA position where they were detailed. And I know some SAUSAs who’d applied for such positions and rejected. I think there’s little incentive for the USAO where someone is detailed to hire that person when they already have them there in the office on another agency’s dime. I don’t know if the home agency frowns on it at all and if that’s also taken into consideration.Anonymous User wrote:Some USAOs have a policy of not hiring SAUSA as AUSAs at their office. So check on that. I can say anecdotally it appears SAUSA in district A-> AUSA in district B is more common than what you described.
But I certainly can’t say it never happens.
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Edit: Agree with the above posters.
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I worked at an agency that had a relationship with the local USAO where we sent our attorneys to work as SAUSAs. Our SAUSA agreements had a clause where the USAO explicitly agreed not to hire our attorneys for a period of two-years after the SAUSA detail ended. I think the idea is our agency didn’t want the USAO getting free work then poaching our lawyers. Nevertheless, it happened sometimes after the two years.
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Re: Special AUSA to AUSA - possible?
Was that frowned upon? Do you think the offering agency would write a letter of rec, for example?Anonymous User wrote:I worked at an agency that had a relationship with the local USAO where we sent our attorneys to work as SAUSAs. Our SAUSA agreements had a clause where the USAO explicitly agreed not to hire our attorneys for a period of two-years after the SAUSA detail ended. I think the idea is our agency didn’t want the USAO getting free work then poaching our lawyers. Nevertheless, it happened sometimes after the two years.
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Re: Special AUSA to AUSA - possible?
Different anon than who you’re responding to, but if you get a detail to a USAO, you’d be much better off getting a reference from the USAO for future apps than from your home agency - in part because the people at your home agency may not have much experience in what a USAO will want to to do, so may not provide a great letter.Anonymous User wrote:Was that frowned upon? Do you think the offering agency would write a letter of rec, for example?Anonymous User wrote:I worked at an agency that had a relationship with the local USAO where we sent our attorneys to work as SAUSAs. Our SAUSA agreements had a clause where the USAO explicitly agreed not to hire our attorneys for a period of two-years after the SAUSA detail ended. I think the idea is our agency didn’t want the USAO getting free work then poaching our lawyers. Nevertheless, it happened sometimes after the two years.
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Re: Special AUSA to AUSA - possible?
there are two different types of SAUSAs -- (1) ones that come from a different agency or from main DOJ on a special detail or (2) uncompensated who are hired full time. i think either experiences can only help a candidate obtain a full time AUSA or main DOJ gig at a later time. previous poster is correct though, some offices have a policy not to hire directly from SAUSA to AUSA, so you want to check with the specific district you are interested in.