DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022 Forum

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:48 pm

Anyone had references checked yet?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:06 pm

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Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:15 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:33 am
It’s on one of the info pages:

https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/e ... oyment#c15

That said, anecdotally, people usually accept on the spot. (Less so for the OCIJ gigs I think because you don’t find out where the job is until the offer.)
I feel like this has to be somewhat untrue? I’m assuming (maybe incorrectly based on my own situation) that many interviewees are interviewing for multiple divisions and/or sections within that division. I have a strong preference for one of the sections I’m interviewing with and if I received another offer I would want to check with them first.
I’ve followed these threads for a number of years and generally haven’t seen many people get multiple offers. So I suppose I should have said that people accept their first choice offer on the spot. And the culture may have changed in recent years because they didn’t used to have even the 14 day window.

Keep in mind that before you get an offer, your status will change online from being offered an interview to being designated a finalist. You can’t get hired if you don’t get designated a finalist, so you may know more about your chances with your other interviews by that point (hopefully all your components will designate you a finalist! But that’s one reason why people don’t always need to follow up on the other interviews).

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:08 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:06 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:15 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:33 am
It’s on one of the info pages:

[...]
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Keep in mind that before you get an offer, your status will change online from being offered an interview to being designated a finalist. [...]
Thank you. The whole "finalist" thing is so odd. (For those unaware, it means they got authorization to make an offer, but you may be an alternate and never get an offer if their first choice(s) accept.)

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:17 am

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Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:48 pm
Anyone had references checked yet?
My former supervisor at DHS was emailed for a reference check about 5 minutes after my interview. He told me that isn't the norm and it means I must have done really well with the interview.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:22 pm

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Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:48 pm
Anyone had references checked yet?
One component checked references the same day as my interview; I haven’t heard anything from the second component.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by compassionateshrimp » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:43 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:48 pm
Anyone had references checked yet?
had references checked for one. day after the interview. not the other division though

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:22 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:48 pm
Anyone had references checked yet?
One component checked references the same day as my interview; I haven’t heard anything from the second component.
Do you mind sharing which components? Haven't had references checked for either ATR CHI or TAX CIV

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:23 pm

OCIJ has already started contacting references. one of my references was asked to respond by the end of the same day. not sure why the hurry when OCIJ apparently takes the longest.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:02 am

USTP has started contacting references.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:48 pm

To my knowledge, no reference check over here for CRT yet.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:23 pm

Anyone get references checked for TAX CRIM?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:06 am

CRM has contacted references, unsure about the other divisions I interviewed with. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if all interviewees have their references checked, or just those candidates that the office is interested in?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:28 pm

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Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:06 am
CRM has contacted references, unsure about the other divisions I interviewed with. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if all interviewees have their references checked, or just those candidates that the office is interested in?
When were your references checked by CRM?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:34 pm

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Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:06 am
CRM has contacted references, unsure about the other divisions I interviewed with. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if all interviewees have their references checked, or just those candidates that the office is interested in?
It depends on the division and office, according to Deana last year, but it's hard to say which components are which.

"REFERENCE CHECKS: The Department conducts reference checks prior to issuing offers. Some components start conducting reference checks while interviews are still under way; some conduct reference checks as part of their finalist selection process; others conduct reference checks after identifying finalists but before issuing offers. The timing is a matter of component discretion."

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:56 pm

References checked by ATR today. Also, saw this post by Deana in 2019 in the application portal:

"REFERENCE CHECKS: The Department conducts reference checks prior to issuing offers. Some components start conducting reference checks while interviews are still under way; some conduct reference checks as part of their finalist selection process; others conduct reference checks after identifying finalists but before issuing offers. The timing is a matter of component discretion. If you need to provide updated contact information for your references, please reach out to the component contact listed on the Legal Careers website at www.justice.gov/legal-careers/component ... rn-program"

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:14 am

My interviewer mentioned that they are not authorized to send out offers until November 22nd. Is it still possible that our status may change to "Finalist" before then?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:18 am

To my understanding, your status has to change to finalist before you can get an offer. And selecting finalists is a different process from making an offer, so the Nov 22 date shouldn’t affect when they can select finalists. I don’t think any finalists have been selected yet?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:14 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:28 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:06 am
CRM has contacted references, unsure about the other divisions I interviewed with. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if all interviewees have their references checked, or just those candidates that the office is interested in?
When were your references checked by CRM?
Mine were contacted last week.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by compassionateshrimp » Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:59 pm

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Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:23 pm
Anyone get references checked for TAX CRIM?
yes. had references checked the day after the interview.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:23 pm
OCIJ has already started contacting references. one of my references was asked to respond by the end of the same day. not sure why the hurry when OCIJ apparently takes the longest.

Same story here. I wondered why the rush too!

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:56 pm
References checked by ATR today. Also, saw this post by Deana in 2019 in the application portal:

"REFERENCE CHECKS: The Department conducts reference checks prior to issuing offers. Some components start conducting reference checks while interviews are still under way; some conduct reference checks as part of their finalist selection process; others conduct reference checks after identifying finalists but before issuing offers. The timing is a matter of component discretion. If you need to provide updated contact information for your references, please reach out to the component contact listed on the Legal Careers website at www.justice.gov/legal-careers/component ... rn-program"

Which ATR office? Or was it the main one?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by dojhopeful » Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:20 am

Anyone from USA-FLSD have their references checked?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:31 pm

Anyone have references checked for CIV-FP?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:47 pm

dojhopeful wrote:
Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:20 am
Anyone from USA-FLSD have their references checked?
No, but just had the second round interview.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:47 pm
dojhopeful wrote:
Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:20 am
Anyone from USA-FLSD have their references checked?
No, but just had the second round interview.
That's great! When was your first?

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