Military Law Forum

[Esquire]

Does school prestige matter for JAG? If so, to what extent? What advice would you give someone who is deciding between lower Top-14 at sticker and regional tier-1 with close to full ride? Is JAG basically too selective to even take into consideration when making this decision.

Assume no military experience or connections.

Army JAG doesn't care. But are you planning on being there for life? I suggest going to the school that gives you more options, whether that's job prospects or enough money to be financially sound enough to take any job you wish.

[Wolverhoo]

Does school prestige matter for JAG? If so, to what extent? What advice would you give someone who is deciding between lower Top-14 at sticker and regional tier-1 with close to full ride? Is JAG basically too selective to even take into consideration when making this decision.

Assume no military experience or connections.

Speaking from personal experience: I am at a Top-10 school with family military connections at the highest level (believe it or not) and I have been rejected multiple times. This may be more due to the fact that I worked for a firm instead of applying for internship, generally corporate-looking resume, etc., but my school prestige did not seem to matter. At all.

That said, you need to look at the loan repayment program that your lower Top-14 offers. Top schools typically offer loan repayment programs that are far superior to lower-ranked schools (for obvious reasons). This may mitigate the difference in cost of attendance between your Top-14 and regional Tier 1 should you become a JA. For instance, I mentioned above that I do not believe my school prestige helps much, if at all, but if I am accepted somehow I will be in pretty good shape in terms of loan repayments because my school offers a killer program.

Hope that's helpful.

[jagapplicant2012]

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[Myself]

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[jagapplicant2012]

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[Fed_Atty]

This is purely anecdotal, but I graduated from law school a year later than someone who was selected for Army JAG. I actually started Naval Justice School before she went for her training. Granted, they may well have cleared the backlog, but with Sequestration/Continuing Resolution on the horizon it could be a different story. There are some Army folks on here that could definitely provide more accurate gouge. On the plus side, the Army Justice School is in a sweet location and is a great facility!

[ZeroDay]

I'll just post for the reference of future people perusing this website. I am AD Army selectee from Dec. I posted earlier about the snail mail regarding our intent to accept or reject our commission. Of course I opted to accept. Today we got email correspondence requesting information they need for the scrolling of our names for Congressional approval of our commissions. The person in charge of dealing with us is currently placing us in classes and we will start dealing with medical stuff in March.

What do you mean being place in classes? Shouldn't all Dec. applicants be in the same class (i.e., 192nd) in ~February 2014?

Are there some that could be in the 193rd in ~July 2014?

Here is an exact quote from the email "I am currently placing you in classes and do not have a list yet. I will have your class assignments ready for dissemination by mid-March." Beyond that, I am not privy to any additional info. I am going in right from law school and predict I'll probably be going in the Feb. class, but perhaps people w/law degree and bar acceptance could go earlier, and I guess it's possible we could go in July '14 as well. Surely, nothing is certain at this point. I will try to continue providing little updates as the info trickles in.

Applicants selected by an AD board are generally divided into separate JAOBC classes. Several factors influence JARO's decisions in assigning applicants to JAOBC classes. Applicants who are selected while in law school must pass the bar, receive medical clearance, and turn in certain required documentation before reporting to JAOBC. I think consideration is also given to the needs of USAR and Guard units -- their JAs attend the same training with AD JAs.

I applied in December 2011, was accepted off the alternate list in June 2012, and was assigned to the 191st JAOBC. The 191st JAOBC is scheduled to start on June 16, 2013 at Fort Benning.

I know several others who graduated law school around the same time I did and were assigned to the 190th JAOBC. At least one of these people took the bar in a state that posted bar results much earlier than my state did. At least two of these people completed internships with the Army JAGC and were "primary selects" from the AD board, not an alternate like I was. These points are probably factors that put the others higher on the Order of Merit List for assignment to a JAOBC class. But then again, I don't really know what goes on at JARO.

[shir9650]

I'll just post for the reference of future people perusing this website. I am AD Army selectee from Dec. I posted earlier about the snail mail regarding our intent to accept or reject our commission. Of course I opted to accept. Today we got email correspondence requesting information they need for the scrolling of our names for Congressional approval of our commissions. The person in charge of dealing with us is currently placing us in classes and we will start dealing with medical stuff in March.

What do you mean being place in classes? Shouldn't all Dec. applicants be in the same class (i.e., 192nd) in ~February 2014?

Are there some that could be in the 193rd in ~July 2014?

Here is an exact quote from the email "I am currently placing you in classes and do not have a list yet. I will have your class assignments ready for dissemination by mid-March." Beyond that, I am not privy to any additional info. I am going in right from law school and predict I'll probably be going in the Feb. class, but perhaps people w/law degree and bar acceptance could go earlier, and I guess it's possible we could go in July '14 as well. Surely, nothing is certain at this point. I will try to continue providing little updates as the info trickles in.

Do you happen to know how many people were included on the e-mail from JARO or how many will be in your class?

[abogadesq]

Does anyone know how many selection boards the Army has every year and when they are held?

[Jagjen82]

I'll just post for the reference of future people perusing this website. I am AD Army selectee from Dec. I posted earlier about the snail mail regarding our intent to accept or reject our commission. Of course I opted to accept. Today we got email correspondence requesting information they need for the scrolling of our names for Congressional approval of our commissions. The person in charge of dealing with us is currently placing us in classes and we will start dealing with medical stuff in March.

What do you mean being place in classes? Shouldn't all Dec. applicants be in the same class (i.e., 192nd) in ~February 2014?

Are there some that could be in the 193rd in ~July 2014?

Here is an exact quote from the email "I am currently placing you in classes and do not have a list yet. I will have your class assignments ready for dissemination by mid-March." Beyond that, I am not privy to any additional info. I am going in right from law school and predict I'll probably be going in the Feb. class, but perhaps people w/law degree and bar acceptance could go earlier, and I guess it's possible we could go in July '14 as well. Surely, nothing is certain at this point. I will try to continue providing little updates as the info trickles in.

Do you happen to know how many people were included on the e-mail from JARO or how many will be in your class?

I can speak for the Army. I'm currently at the JAOBC (190th), and there are 87 of us. The Army has three classes a year - February, July and October. Expect a wait before beginning - I was selected in January 2012 and started in February of 2013.

[Trout et al]

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[shir9650]

I can speak for the Army. I'm currently at the JAOBC (190th), and there are 87 of us. The Army has three classes a year - February, July and October. Expect a wait before beginning - I was selected in January 2012 and started in February of 2013.

Do you know the make up of the class, active duty v. reserves/NG?

[erik_1717]

Army 2L Summer interns, has anybody heard anything regarding base assignments and things like that? I was only picked as an alternate, but was thinking we would find stuff out this week.

[DannyBoy31]

Haven't heard of any GLP/OYCP calls going out yet. I guess next week it is.

[adonai]

Haven't heard of any GLP/OYCP calls going out yet. I guess next week it is.

My SJA told me if I didn't get a call that means a rejection.

[DannyBoy31]

Haven't heard of any GLP/OYCP calls going out yet. I guess next week it is.

My SJA told me if I didn't get a call that means a rejection.

I've also heard that but in order to know you didn't get the call you would have to find out some other way that the calls already went out...or wait the extra week or so until the rejection letter comes in the mail.

[f_atc]

Just got a call from my local SJA. I got in! AF GLP

[adonai]

Just got a call from my local SJA. I got in! AF GLP

Hey congrats! I guess that means the results are out and I'm guessing the rest of us who didn't get a call today didn't get in.

[DannyBoy31]

Just got a call from my local SJA. I got in! AF GLP

Wow this late in the afternoon? I'm guessing your on the west coast? I'm not giving up hope quite yet.

[f_atc]

I got the call at around 1700 central time.

[DannyBoy31]

I got the call at around 1700 central time.

Interesting...ok thanks a lot for the update.

[Needajob1]

What year in Law School were you applying to the AF GLP? I was planning on doing that too, but am going back and forth on the best timing? So many options here...

[f_atc]

What year in Law School were you applying to the AF GLP? I was planning on doing that too, but am going back and forth on the best timing? So many options here...

I'm a 1L.

[Needajob1]

That's when I was planning on applying. I wasn't really thinking of an AF internship though. I figured I would get enough of that once I am in AF.

[f_atc]

That's when I was planning on applying. I wasn't really thinking of an AF internship though. I figured I would get enough of that once I am in AF.

Yeah. I wasn't interested in the summer internship. If I didn't get accepted into the 1L program I was going to apply to the 2L program and so on until accepted.