More BigLaw TikTok drama! Forum

[basketofbread]

I think she has a point about being more valuable as partner material if she builds a robust profile outside of the firm. I feel like the people who make partner (at least in my lit group where almost nobody makes partner) have some special star quality or outside experience. They don’t achieve it by keeping their heads down and being great workers - those people become perma-counsel.

This is probably not the best example but look at a guy like Alex Spiro. Independently got famous by defending high profile clients, then leveraged that into a partnership at Quinn. He is retained in seemingly every criminal case in the news and that’s because he’s a rare famous lawyer.

I think she has a point. Whether or not she can achieve notoriety that will end up being useful is a question, but it’s hard to predict how fame works out. If it was easy everyone would do it.

Honestly, I'm not so sure that her habitual carelessness and intern-level errors (and lack of shame, as evidenced by her posting them for the internet to see) would inspire me to retain her as counsel.

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 0176232751

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 3644995886

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 4282901807

Yeah that’s pretty dumb.

[Anonymous User]

I think she has a point about being more valuable as partner material if she builds a robust profile outside of the firm. I feel like the people who make partner (at least in my lit group where almost nobody makes partner) have some special star quality or outside experience. They don’t achieve it by keeping their heads down and being great workers - those people become perma-counsel.

This is probably not the best example but look at a guy like Alex Spiro. Independently got famous by defending high profile clients, then leveraged that into a partnership at Quinn. He is retained in seemingly every criminal case in the news and that’s because he’s a rare famous lawyer.

I think she has a point. Whether or not she can achieve notoriety that will end up being useful is a question, but it’s hard to predict how fame works out. If it was easy everyone would do it.

Honestly, I'm not so sure that her habitual carelessness and intern-level errors (and lack of shame, as evidenced by her posting them for the internet to see) would inspire me to retain her as counsel.

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 0176232751

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 3644995886

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 4282901807

Yeah that’s pretty dumb.

Are you sure you all aren’t old fogies who find the reels / tiktok video format itself unprofessional in the same way boomers think or thought about insta?

Where are the posts about unprofessional LinkedIn / Facebook / insta accounts? TikTok seems to be the only target.

[Anonymous User]

I think she has a point about being more valuable as partner material if she builds a robust profile outside of the firm. I feel like the people who make partner (at least in my lit group where almost nobody makes partner) have some special star quality or outside experience. They don’t achieve it by keeping their heads down and being great workers - those people become perma-counsel.

This is probably not the best example but look at a guy like Alex Spiro. Independently got famous by defending high profile clients, then leveraged that into a partnership at Quinn. He is retained in seemingly every criminal case in the news and that’s because he’s a rare famous lawyer.

I think she has a point. Whether or not she can achieve notoriety that will end up being useful is a question, but it’s hard to predict how fame works out. If it was easy everyone would do it.

Honestly, I'm not so sure that her habitual carelessness and intern-level errors (and lack of shame, as evidenced by her posting them for the internet to see) would inspire me to retain her as counsel.

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 0176232751

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 3644995886

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 4282901807

Yeah that’s pretty dumb.

Are you sure you all aren’t old fogies who find the reels / tiktok video format itself unprofessional in the same way boomers think or thought about insta?

Where are the posts about unprofessional LinkedIn / Facebook / insta accounts? TikTok seems to be the only target.

TikTok is a social media platform that most easily permits stupid content to be viewed publicly by a large number of people. Hardly anyone posts animated content on LinkedIn. Young people are hardly on Facebook anymore. And Instagram's interface is just too weird to view without an Instagram account. It comes down to the fact that TikTok draws in more Gen Z folks and folks who are old but act like Gen Z (like above).

[Anonymous User]

I think she has a point about being more valuable as partner material if she builds a robust profile outside of the firm. I feel like the people who make partner (at least in my lit group where almost nobody makes partner) have some special star quality or outside experience. They don’t achieve it by keeping their heads down and being great workers - those people become perma-counsel.

This is probably not the best example but look at a guy like Alex Spiro. Independently got famous by defending high profile clients, then leveraged that into a partnership at Quinn. He is retained in seemingly every criminal case in the news and that’s because he’s a rare famous lawyer.

I think she has a point. Whether or not she can achieve notoriety that will end up being useful is a question, but it’s hard to predict how fame works out. If it was easy everyone would do it.

Feel like the point about building a personal brand helping with partnership would be a lot more credible if she was at a firm that didn't rely entirely on maintaining existing institutional relationships for work.

[SGTslaughter]

Didn't realize you could look like that and be an influencer TBH

EH HEEH HEEH--

[Anonymous User]

I think she has a point about being more valuable as partner material if she builds a robust profile outside of the firm. I feel like the people who make partner (at least in my lit group where almost nobody makes partner) have some special star quality or outside experience. They don’t achieve it by keeping their heads down and being great workers - those people become perma-counsel.

This is probably not the best example but look at a guy like Alex Spiro. Independently got famous by defending high profile clients, then leveraged that into a partnership at Quinn. He is retained in seemingly every criminal case in the news and that’s because he’s a rare famous lawyer.

I think she has a point. Whether or not she can achieve notoriety that will end up being useful is a question, but it’s hard to predict how fame works out. If it was easy everyone would do it.

Feel like the point about building a personal brand helping with partnership would be a lot more credible if she was at a firm that didn't rely entirely on maintaining existing institutional relationships for work.

No serious company would want their counsel to be someone who *publicly* makes, for example, videos about how she often sends the wrong documents to clients

[Anonymous User]

I don’t watch Tiktok for security reasons, but if she actually referenced an anti-moonlighting policy as comparable to slavery, she should be immediately terminated.

She did. She said it on TikTok and, at least, purports to have said it to those at her firm as well.

Let's just remember that STB is a firm that's a bit more tolerant of associate (and partner) missteps than others, especially if they're in groups that are buried in work (which this tiktoker's generally is). See, e.g., https://abovethelaw.com/2018/12/probabl ... four-acts/. (The associate in that email chain is still employed, based on the firm's website.)

Are you personally familiar with this situation or is the name of the associate mentioned somewhere in the article? Didn't see it but given ATL's terrible formatting it's possible I missed it.

Personal familiarity. It was pretty well-known by people who knew people at STB back then.

[basketofbread]

I think she has a point about being more valuable as partner material if she builds a robust profile outside of the firm. I feel like the people who make partner (at least in my lit group where almost nobody makes partner) have some special star quality or outside experience. They don’t achieve it by keeping their heads down and being great workers - those people become perma-counsel.

This is probably not the best example but look at a guy like Alex Spiro. Independently got famous by defending high profile clients, then leveraged that into a partnership at Quinn. He is retained in seemingly every criminal case in the news and that’s because he’s a rare famous lawyer.

I think she has a point. Whether or not she can achieve notoriety that will end up being useful is a question, but it’s hard to predict how fame works out. If it was easy everyone would do it.

Honestly, I'm not so sure that her habitual carelessness and intern-level errors (and lack of shame, as evidenced by her posting them for the internet to see) would inspire me to retain her as counsel.

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 0176232751

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 3644995886

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 4282901807

Yeah that’s pretty dumb.

Are you sure you all aren’t old fogies who find the reels / tiktok video format itself unprofessional in the same way boomers think or thought about insta?

Where are the posts about unprofessional LinkedIn / Facebook / insta accounts? TikTok seems to be the only target.

I was reacting to the post about sending the client the wrong doc. That’s not good big law propaganda. She should have said the client messaged her how good of a job she did on the doc or something like that.

The firm is not going to be onboard with broadcasting legitimate careless mistakes no matter how small. If she wants the firm’s approval, she should make a video about how she made the “mistake” of accidentally doing three days worth of diligence in one afternoon or something like that.

[thisismytlsuername]

Optics of firing a black female associate over something like this = not great. Not convinced she'll get fired. Might get a "warning".

What does her race or gender have to do with her potential violation of firm policies and publicly demeaning her firm and her firm's leadership?

I think she has a point about being more valuable as partner material if she builds a robust profile outside of the firm. I feel like the people who make partner (at least in my lit group where almost nobody makes partner) have some special star quality or outside experience. They don’t achieve it by keeping their heads down and being great workers - those people become perma-counsel.

This is probably not the best example but look at a guy like Alex Spiro. Independently got famous by defending high profile clients, then leveraged that into a partnership at Quinn. He is retained in seemingly every criminal case in the news and that’s because he’s a rare famous lawyer.

I think she has a point. Whether or not she can achieve notoriety that will end up being useful is a question, but it’s hard to predict how fame works out. If it was easy everyone would do it.

This is pretty hilarious. Spiro became famous for his performance as a lawyer. Doing GRWMs and vacation highlights on Tiktok is a little different. Even if she were to build a "robust profile" on Tiktok, those aren't relationships with decision-makers at potential clients of STB or evidence that she can perform as lawyer.

[Anonymous User]

Does anybody at STB know her? I would feel awkward pretending not to know she posts videos proclaiming her “richness” on a day-to-day basis.

[dyemond]

I think she has a point about being more valuable as partner material if she builds a robust profile outside of the firm. I feel like the people who make partner (at least in my lit group where almost nobody makes partner) have some special star quality or outside experience. They don’t achieve it by keeping their heads down and being great workers - those people become perma-counsel.

This is probably not the best example but look at a guy like Alex Spiro. Independently got famous by defending high profile clients, then leveraged that into a partnership at Quinn. He is retained in seemingly every criminal case in the news and that’s because he’s a rare famous lawyer.

I think she has a point. Whether or not she can achieve notoriety that will end up being useful is a question, but it’s hard to predict how fame works out. If it was easy everyone would do it.

Honestly, I'm not so sure that her habitual carelessness and intern-level errors (and lack of shame, as evidenced by her posting them for the internet to see) would inspire me to retain her as counsel.

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 0176232751

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 3644995886

https://www.tiktok.com/@legallypriscill ... 4282901807

Yeah that’s pretty dumb.

Are you sure you all aren’t old fogies who find the reels / tiktok video format itself unprofessional in the same way boomers think or thought about insta?

Where are the posts about unprofessional LinkedIn / Facebook / insta accounts? TikTok seems to be the only target.

This shit is wildly unprofessional, regardless of the platform or medium.

Candidly, I can't say I've ever seen anything from a legal influencer that has made me remotely positive on them.

[Anonymous User]

Good faith question. How does a 2nd-3rd year big law associate take so many vacations? We're not talking Sedona here. 3 to 4 international destinations within the span of 3 months? Is this the funds associate experience?

[Anonymous User]

I think she has a point about being more valuable as partner material if she builds a robust profile outside of the firm. I feel like the people who make partner (at least in my lit group where almost nobody makes partner) have some special star quality or outside experience. They don’t achieve it by keeping their heads down and being great workers - those people become perma-counsel.

a 'robust profile' built through shein sponsorships

I can't tell if you're trolling or just desperate to put a positive spin on this TikToker's entitled take. Either way, ridiculous post.

[Anonymous User]

Good faith question. How does a 2nd-3rd year big law associate take so many vacations? We're not talking Sedona here. 3 to 4 international destinations within the span of 3 months? Is this the funds associate experience?

Yeah, I’d like to solve the puzzle, Pat.

[basketofbread]

I think she has a point about being more valuable as partner material if she builds a robust profile outside of the firm. I feel like the people who make partner (at least in my lit group where almost nobody makes partner) have some special star quality or outside experience. They don’t achieve it by keeping their heads down and being great workers - those people become perma-counsel.

a 'robust profile' built through shein sponsorships

I can't tell if you're trolling or just desperate to put a positive spin on this TikToker's entitled take. Either way, ridiculous post.

Not trolling, but I understand why you think it's ridiculous. It's just not unthinkable today, and in the next ten years, that a Tiktok famous lawyer would be a hot acquisition for a firm.

[Anonymous User]

Maybe I'm a boomer who doesn't understand the kid but these TikTok videos just seem to put her and her firm in really bad light. I don't understand why anyone would think the firm would be OK with this.

At least the cravath kid was keeping her lives separate (other than having the same face) and just posting about beauty tips. But posting about attaching the wrong document and when emails come in? Basic common sense not to do that in a way that's so easily traceable to your employer.

[Anonymous User]

Good faith question. How does a 2nd-3rd year big law associate take so many vacations? We're not talking Sedona here. 3 to 4 international destinations within the span of 3 months? Is this the funds associate experience?

I’m wondering too whether she hits her hours while making all of these videos and going on these vacations

[Anonymous User]

Good faith question. How does a 2nd-3rd year big law associate take so many vacations? We're not talking Sedona here. 3 to 4 international destinations within the span of 3 months? Is this the funds associate experience?

I’m wondering too whether she hits her hours while making all of these videos and going on these vacations

She used to be at Fried Frank NY before lateraling to STB (if it matters, this is publicly available information) and was taking a large number of vacations during her time there. So, maybe she was pushed out for not meeting her hours? I don't see how else it is possible to go on vacation internationally every other weekend, especially in a corporate practice group.

lol same practice group/firm as this person, did not know about this because I am old and lame

What is your take on this person's tiktok persona? I would imagine and would hope that this persona does not carry into practice and that she shows more professionalism in dealing with clients and colleagues. However, her judgment seems to be questionable as she, with a straight face, invoked the word 'slavery' to firm management/HR while complaining about not being able to pursue brand deals. Makes me wonder how this type of a personality conducts themselves in the workplace.

I also want to note before the allegations of this being a pile on make their way here, this person is a social media influencer and their success in such an endeavor depends on others sharing and discussing their content. I'm simply curious here and agree with many of the commenters suggesting this is a bad look for clients. She has videos of her dancing on a stripper pole. On one hand, I am of the belief that concerns over such activities are antiquated and have no place in such corporate settings as long as this is being done in her personal life. On the other, the success model in big law necessitates a reliance on client satisfaction.

She's a mid-level on track to being even more senior. It's not unlikely that clients come across her page (which uses her name as part of the handle) and think "you are not serious people".

[Anonymous User]

I also want to note before the allegations of this being a pile on make their way here, this person is a social media influencer and their success in such an endeavor depends on others sharing and discussing their content.

A limited purpose public figure who assumed the risk in the language of Gertz...

[Anonymous User]

Optics of firing a black female associate over something like this = not great. Not convinced she'll get fired. Might get a "warning".

What does her race or gender have to do with her potential violation of firm policies and publicly demeaning her firm and her firm's leadership?

I think she has a point about being more valuable as partner material if she builds a robust profile outside of the firm. I feel like the people who make partner (at least in my lit group where almost nobody makes partner) have some special star quality or outside experience. They don’t achieve it by keeping their heads down and being great workers - those people become perma-counsel.

This is probably not the best example but look at a guy like Alex Spiro. Independently got famous by defending high profile clients, then leveraged that into a partnership at Quinn. He is retained in seemingly every criminal case in the news and that’s because he’s a rare famous lawyer.

I think she has a point. Whether or not she can achieve notoriety that will end up being useful is a question, but it’s hard to predict how fame works out. If it was easy everyone would do it.

This is pretty hilarious. Spiro became famous for his performance as a lawyer. Doing GRWMs and vacation highlights on Tiktok is a little different. Even if she were to build a "robust profile" on Tiktok, those aren't relationships with decision-makers at potential clients of STB or evidence that she can perform as lawyer.

Unfortunately race and gender matters quite a bit when firms decide on whether they should dole out punishment—even to these extremes.

[Anonymous User]

Good faith question. How does a 2nd-3rd year big law associate take so many vacations? We're not talking Sedona here. 3 to 4 international destinations within the span of 3 months? Is this the funds associate experience?

You already know the answer here. Look deep inside.

[Anonymous User]

Good faith question. How does a 2nd-3rd year big law associate take so many vacations? We're not talking Sedona here. 3 to 4 international destinations within the span of 3 months? Is this the funds associate experience?

I’m wondering too whether she hits her hours while making all of these videos and going on these vacations

STB doesn't have an hours requirement.

[Anonymous User]

How do tiktok big law attorneys have the time or energy to create so much content?

[Anonymous User]

Good faith question. How does a 2nd-3rd year big law associate take so many vacations? We're not talking Sedona here. 3 to 4 international destinations within the span of 3 months? Is this the funds associate experience?

I’m wondering too whether she hits her hours while making all of these videos and going on these vacations

STB doesn't have an hours requirement.

Everyone knows that firms without hours requirements still won't pay a third year to sit around all day and take vacations. "No hours requirement" doesn't entail "can do half the work of their peers."

[hekisan656]

This kind of content is a professional Rorschach test. I'm a fan of TikTok, but I can't even begin to understand people who think its professionally acceptable.