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justadude55 wrote:Bringing this forum back from the dead.
I am a 167 RETAKE in OCTOBER. I was getting 170-172 on my practice tests the month of the 167. Based on my performance on a prep test today, I decided to retake the exam.
I've been doing sporadic sections whenever I have free time since when I took the LSAT last December, and decided to take a full length test today. I got a 178 with getting 4 things wrong. I got -1 in the two LR and -3 in RC [and this was with being lucky enough to get the 4th passage all right in 5 minutes.]
Disclaimer: All 3 q's I got wrong in RC were in the science passage, and I spent a disproportionate 11 1/2 minutes on this passage.
I'm not going to be studying intensely, just one full test and a few sections a week, but do need some aid on how to improve my RC. I'm not a great reader, but I am able to get -0 in LR, which means I could hypothetically do the same in RC. Lastly, I am not so hot under pressure and on October's test, odds are the curve won't make -4 a 178.
1. Please don't bump 4 1/2 year-old threads.justadude55 wrote:Bringing this forum back from the dead.
I am a 167 RETAKE in OCTOBER. I was getting 170-172 on my practice tests the month of the 167.
I've been doing sporadic sections whenever I have free time since when I took the LSAT last December, and decided to take a full length test today. I got a 178 with getting 4 things wrong. I got -1 in the two LR and -3 in RC [and this was with being lucky enough to get the 4th passage all right in 5 minutes.]
Disclaimer: All 3 q's I got wrong in RC were in the science passage, and I spent a disproportionate 11 1/2 minutes on this passage.
I'm not going to be studying intensely, just one full test and a few sections a week, but do need some aid on how to improve my RC. I'm not a great reader, but I am able to get -0 in LR, which means I could hypothetically do the same in RC. Lastly, I am not so hot under pressure and on October's test, odds are the curve won't make -4 a 178.
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yeah, i read this book. it is very helpful, but not perfect. i feel like getting your score to -0 in a section largely comes through utilizing approaches you yourself make up in self study. i came up with my own approaches for assumption type q's -- assumptions, s/w, flaws and principles in LR to get down to -0 in a section, and take a game by game approach to just setting up what is smartest for a given LG game and get -0's in these sections. I just don't have the same level of mastery so other people's pointers are much appreciated.2014 wrote:I've actually found the RC Bible to be extremely helpful. A lot of what they teach is common sense, but if you are the type of person who appreciates the structure and order of having a book guide, I would recommend it. I have no idea why it got a bad rap from TLS. It definitely is my worst section though too. Gone from -8 or so average on it to -4, and all of the -4 are legitimately stupid mistakes such as missing the "What is the main point" question.
If you don't mind me asking, what is your approach for assumptions and flaws? I struggle with those sometimes and would be interested to learn a different approach other than Kaplan's.i came up with my own approaches for assumption type q's -- assumptions, s/w, flaws and principles in LR to get down to -0 in a section
equivocation of words with accepting the wording in the evidence as 100% valid.flgator10 wrote:If you don't mind me asking, what is your approach for assumptions and flaws? I struggle with those sometimes and would be interested to learn a different approach other than Kaplan's.i came up with my own approaches for assumption type q's -- assumptions, s/w, flaws and principles in LR to get down to -0 in a section
Thanks. That helps a lot. I will definitely start using that technique.justadude55 wrote:equivocation of words with accepting the wording in the evidence as 100% valid.flgator10 wrote:If you don't mind me asking, what is your approach for assumptions and flaws? I struggle with those sometimes and would be interested to learn a different approach other than Kaplan's.i came up with my own approaches for assumption type q's -- assumptions, s/w, flaws and principles in LR to get down to -0 in a section
eg:
residents should not consider the loss of the countryside a tragedy, because the job market has improved tremendously.
not being a tragedy is equivocated with the job market improving. the assumption would be if job market up ---> no tragedy.
anything additional fact making this equivocation less likely would weaken it. any fact doing the opposite would strengthen it. it is a can't fail technique if you're madddd observant. i can literally normally tear apart the assumption in <30 seconds, even on a question 15-22.
another thing i do is always scan for the conclusion, and read it first so i keep it in mind as i read the passage. it seems harder than it is, but if you don't see a conclusion word in the last sentence or an opinion in the first sentence, it'll normally be the contrast word in the middle. after you get that, you're already on the hunt for the word you know they're gonna be equivocating the evidence with.
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Finally someone that has used the RC Bible. The LG has been great so if you say this one is good, I am going for it. Thanks.2014 wrote:I've actually found the RC Bible to be extremely helpful. A lot of what they teach is common sense, but if you are the type of person who appreciates the structure and order of having a book guide, I would recommend it. I have no idea why it got a bad rap from TLS. It definitely is my worst section though too. Gone from -8 or so average on it to -4, and all of the -4 are legitimately stupid mistakes such as missing the "What is the main point" question.
1.) take ATLAS, VOYAGERs RC strategy and read them until you're blue in the face. Take detailed notes.
2.) Turn these notes into a condensed notecard that you put next to you every time you're about to do a RC passage. Do a RC passage untimed, making sure that you're applying all the techniques.
3.) see what works for you and what doesn't.
4.) Repeat over and over and over, slowly beginning to time until you REALLY start understanding how RC passages are structured. Just like LR, there are about 8-10 templates/passage types. After a while, when you're reading, you'll read a sentence and think "A-ha! this will definitely be asked about"!
don't bust your learning nut by compulsively checking the answers as soon as you finish passage. NO. stop, and review each question that gave you problems, re-read the passage and try and realize what mental lapses you tend to fall into. This is especially pertinent in LR, but this is the #1 way to improve - to really identify trends through tons of repitition and coming up with a strategy for yourself.
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