The Official September 2017 Study Group Forum

[CottonHarvest]

I have been on an overall downward trend after PTing above 175. My last five have been 171-173. Today I started at 7:30 am, which is way early than any other PTs I've taken. Somehow I managed to pull a 179 on PT 76.
RC -2
LR -1/-0
LG -0

[Anon-e-miss]

PT 75

95/100 for a 176
Didn't do anything LSAT-related from Friday-Sunday, so I'm glad the reprieve paid off

LR1: -1
RC: -3
LR2: -1
LG: -0 (my first perfect LG section!)

I hope this test wasn't a fluke because I'm very excited to have tied my best score as well as having my best score on a test in the 60-80 range.
Don't give up hope y'all; the late stage gains are possible!

PT 79 today

90/101
170

LR1: -3
RC: -4
LG: -2 (-1 on virus game and -1 on a question from Game 3 that I didn't have time to go back to)
LR2: -2

Ugh, I basically just got smacked down by the LSAT just when I thought I had made a breakthrough!

[Mikey]

Ugh, I basically just got smacked down by the LSAT just when I thought I had made a breakthrough!

that test was a tough one. I took it on actual test day and it was a mess lol.

[Anon-e-miss]

Ugh, I basically just got smacked down by the LSAT just when I thought I had made a breakthrough!

that test was a tough one. I took it on actual test day and it was a mess lol.

That's probably true, but I still am resistant to the idea of calling this PT (or almost any other PT) harder or easier, especially since that should be reflected in the test's scale. It gives the test too much agency and removed my own culpability for being too inconsistent, lol

[ScamMan101]

I'm tilted.

My scores keep jumping like crazy all of a sudden

In early August I got 163 on test 64.

Then did a bunch of tests in the middle of August getting 169-173.

Did test 79 today and got a 162?????

Seriously pissed

(this is timed, fully proctored, with bubble sheet)

[Anon-e-miss]

I'm tilted.

My scores keep jumping like crazy all of a sudden

In early August I got 163 on test 64.

Then did a bunch of tests in the middle of August getting 169-173.

Did test 79 today and got a 162?????

Seriously pissed

(this is timed, fully proctored, with bubble sheet)

I also took PT 79 today. What was your section breakdown?

[abujabal]

PT 74 just man handled me

The RC on that test is especially difficult based on my experience. And I know that you hate RC

I hate RC, but what I'm most concerned about right now is the 2nd LR

I completely bombed the 2nd LR, RC kicked my ass too but I'm used to that

PT74

166

RC: -7
LG: -0 (3rd game was annoying af)
LR: -2 and -8 (?????????????????????????????????????????????? )

Currently reviewing my RC from that test RN. Whole thing really just made me want to buy a ton of perfume...

[carmtastic]

I'm tilted.

My scores keep jumping like crazy all of a sudden

In early August I got 163 on test 64.

Then did a bunch of tests in the middle of August getting 169-173.

Did test 79 today and got a 162?????

Seriously pissed

(this is timed, fully proctored, with bubble sheet)

Test 79 was rough. I did it test day and was just like lol. I didn't find the games section hard, though many people were thrown off by the virus game. But iirc there was also some really difficult RC passages thrown in.

[Mikey]

Currently reviewing my RC from that test RN. Whole thing really just made me want to buy a ton of perfume...

I actually didn't think he perfume passage was that bad. The passage was dense af, and I barely knew what was going on. But the questions were pretty easy, imo. I got 1 wrong in that passage and it was the only one I circled as being iffy.

[calmike]

I'm bringing a back up just in case. But yea, I'll be super upset if someone decides to be extra. The type of watch shouldn't be this big of a deal

Are we allowed to have a backup watch? I would really like to use the watch I have been prepping with/already took the lsat with but a backup watch does seem like a good way to avoid disaster.

At the June test, I took a loud ticking watch. I think I lost a point for being so embarrassed by it lol

[abujabal]

Currently reviewing my RC from that test RN. Whole thing really just made me want to buy a ton of perfume...

I actually didn't think he perfume passage was that bad. The passage was dense af, and I barely knew what was going on. But the questions were pretty easy, imo. I got 1 wrong in that passage and it was the only one I circled as being iffy.

I enjoyed that one - interestingly my errors were one on each passage which is...annoying. That said, I always find that my mood about the section as a whole depends on which passage comes first. Difficult science first is always best. A softball history, and it's time to stress.

[Mikey]

Currently reviewing my RC from that test RN. Whole thing really just made me want to buy a ton of perfume...

I actually didn't think he perfume passage was that bad. The passage was dense af, and I barely knew what was going on. But the questions were pretty easy, imo. I got 1 wrong in that passage and it was the only one I circled as being iffy.

I enjoyed that one - interestingly my errors were one on each passage which is...annoying. That said, I always find that my mood about the section as a whole depends on which passage comes first. Difficult science first is always best. A softball history, and it's time to stress.

haha. the last passage, despite being confident with it, is where I got wrecked on this test. the thunder passage was a bit tough as well, but the structure was simple

[Rupert Pupkin]

Ugh, I basically just got smacked down by the LSAT just when I thought I had made a breakthrough!

that test was a tough one. I took it on actual test day and it was a mess lol.

That's probably true, but I still am resistant to the idea of calling this PT (or almost any other PT) harder or easier, especially since that should be reflected in the test's scale. It gives the test too much agency and removed my own culpability for being too inconsistent, lol

Couldnt have said it better myself ;

def want to retake this one and see how i fare. Havent looked at it since and dont remember much except two passage themes and the virus game (as a theme)

[Gluteus]

Anyone else find timing on LR to be really easy?

I regularly re-read portions of the stimulus
For a few questions each test I will re-read the entire stimulus, occasionally more than once.
For 1-2 questions per test I will spend what feels like forever re-reading parts of the stimulus and going over the question choices multiple times

Despite this, I still end each LR section with around a minute to spare.

[sabraph]

Anyone else find timing on LR to be really easy?

I regularly re-read portions of the stimulus
For a few questions each test I will re-read the entire stimulus, occasionally more than once.
For 1-2 questions per test I will spend what feels like forever re-reading parts of the stimulus and going over the question choices multiple times

Despite this, I still end each LR section with around a minute to spare.

This is the same for me. But I still net anywhere from 0-6 wrong depending on my focus on a LR section. Do you mind me asking your LR average? I think my issue is question type/second guessing my instincts but would like to confirm. If you're doing solid LR with the same timing patterns that rules out not spending enough time on questions.

[Mikey]

Anyone else find timing on LR to be really easy?

I regularly re-read portions of the stimulus
For a few questions each test I will re-read the entire stimulus, occasionally more than once.
For 1-2 questions per test I will spend what feels like forever re-reading parts of the stimulus and going over the question choices multiple times

Despite this, I still end each LR section with around a minute to spare.

Yeah, timing is never an issue for me in LR. I usually have 5 mins to spare by the time I get to every question. Usually just go over some of the ones I'm iffy on though.

[sev]

PT 74 just man handled me

The RC on that test is especially difficult based on my experience. And I know that you hate RC

I hate RC, but what I'm most concerned about right now is the 2nd LR

I completely bombed the 2nd LR, RC kicked my ass too but I'm used to that

Here to join the PT 74 bandwagon of despair. Just took it last night--165. Haven't scored that low since last year when I halfheartedly took a PT in a bar over some pints.

Gonna try to take 75 tomorrow morning to give myself assurance that it was because of [insert excuse here] rather than reflective of test day.

[sev]

Anyone else find timing on LR to be really easy?

I regularly re-read portions of the stimulus
For a few questions each test I will re-read the entire stimulus, occasionally more than once.
For 1-2 questions per test I will spend what feels like forever re-reading parts of the stimulus and going over the question choices multiple times

Despite this, I still end each LR section with around a minute to spare.

Yep. LR is my fav--I'm really impressed with LSAC's ability to consistently deliver 26ish questions that happen to be doable in almost exactly 35 minutes. It just feels natural.

[Mikey]

PT 74 just man handled me

The RC on that test is especially difficult based on my experience. And I know that you hate RC

I hate RC, but what I'm most concerned about right now is the 2nd LR

I completely bombed the 2nd LR, RC kicked my ass too but I'm used to that

Here to join the PT 74 bandwagon of despair. Just took it last night--165. Haven't scored that low since last year when I halfheartedly took a PT in a bar over some pints.

Gonna try to take 75 tomorrow morning to give myself assurance that it was because of [insert excuse here] rather than reflective of test day.

Damn.

Yeah.. I may do another PT tomorrow, but I reviewed that shit earlier and I'm pretty damn sure that I was just having an off day today, or at least during that section of LR 2. RC is always a hit or miss for me, so I'm not even too concerned I went -7 on it. but that -2 on LR1 and then -8 on LR2 just didn't make sense to me lol. when I reviewed, I understood every question I got wrong besides 1. I wasn't too focused during that section timed, so I guess it's whatever, I'm over it now

[squarerootofi]

Hey guys, first time poster! Bit late to the game due to a crazy work schedule but I've been scoring in the 169-172 range on the few PTs I've started on. Usually end up with -0 to -3 on RC and LR, but my LG scores fluctuate like crazy (anywhere from -3 to -7). Already planning on getting a bunch of reps in over the next few weeks but wanted to see if anyone had advice on best resources to go to for specific strategies that could be helpful. Thanks and good luck everyone!

[sev]

Hey guys, first time poster! Bit late to the game due to a crazy work schedule but I've been scoring in the 169-172 range on the few PTs I've started on. Usually end up with -0 to -3 on RC and LR, but my LG scores fluctuate like crazy (anywhere from -3 to -7). Already planning on getting a bunch of reps in over the next few weeks but wanted to see if anyone had advice on best resources to go to for specific strategies that could be helpful. Thanks and good luck everyone!

Welcome! I'm assuming the LG variance is due to running short on time (as opposed to answering all of the questions and getting 3-7 of them wrong)? Does your score vary on the types of games you see (i.e. sequencing good, grouping bad?)?

[Mikey]

to PT or to not PT today

aka, to give a shit or to not give a shit today

[Gluteus]

Anyone else find timing on LR to be really easy?

I regularly re-read portions of the stimulus
For a few questions each test I will re-read the entire stimulus, occasionally more than once.
For 1-2 questions per test I will spend what feels like forever re-reading parts of the stimulus and going over the question choices multiple times

Despite this, I still end each LR section with around a minute to spare.

This is the same for me. But I still net anywhere from 0-6 wrong depending on my focus on a LR section. Do you mind me asking your LR average? I think my issue is question type/second guessing my instincts but would like to confirm. If you're doing solid LR with the same timing patterns that rules out not spending enough time on questions.

I'm usually -2 to -3 per LR section.

There doesn't seem to be a major pattern to my wrong answers. There's not even much of a difference in accuracy between easy questions and hard questions. I've gotten 3 wrong in the first 10 before and swept the remainder.

I'm cutting out every LR question I get wrong and taping it to the wall to be reviewed daily until the LSAT. Hopefully this will allow me to extract the useful information every wrong answer provides and, if nothing else, establish a strong score floor for the real thing.

[littlewing67]

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[Anon-e-miss]

Just finished BR for PT 68

RC -7 (BR -4)
LR -4 (BR -2)
EXP LR -4
LR -1 (BR -0)
LG -4 (BR -2)
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167 (BR 174)

There is usually a high disparity between my actual score and BR score. Any advice as to why, and how to close this gap?

This is super general, but you may want to work at increasing speed on the easier questions as much as possible so that you have more time to go over the more difficult questions. Lack of adequate time for tough questions due to sinking an extra 10-20 seconds on easier questions may be contributing to the disparity.