The Official September 2017 Study Group Forum

[twiix]

After the June test concluded, this thread got about 25 new people. Crazy how busy it has been in here.. and even more crazy how it is all seemingly on topic

[creed]

Just finished three weeks of going through the LGB and LRB cover to cover and decided to take my first PT today (didn't take a diagnostic).

PT 1
166
RC: -7 (didn't prep for RC at all)
LG: -4 (ran out of time, got every other question)
LR: -3
LR: -5

I went in thinking I'd be happy with a 165 come September, so this was a pleasant surprise. Hopefully it wasn't a fluke. I just have a couple questions...

- How am I looking for a 170 come September? A 167+ should put me in a solid spot given my GPA, so I'm hoping for that at least. I am also prepared to retake in December if necessary.

- Where to go from here? Am I good to start drilling/PTing or would I stand to benefit from some more prep material? I have been considering LSAT Trainer and 7Sage - leaning towards the latter because the video format would be a welcome change of pace and I have heard good things about his LG methods (a bit iffy on how LGB taught grouping/sequencing games).

- Suggestions on prep materials/methods for RC prepping? Is the RCB worth going through?

- How do you guys select which PTs to drill/take in full? I know the general advice of saving the most recent PTs in full for closer to exam day, but I also don't see many people talking about older PTs (e.g. from the single digits), are they not worthwhile or something?

Well done! A few pieces of advice.

Check out this study guide: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... =6&t=41657

It's a three-month guide, so you'd need to shorten a bit to cover fully, but you've already read through the bibles, which is great. To get your time down on LG, I would highly recommend this bit:

"You will need to divide LG into specific types (Grouping, Linear, and various subtypes) and work on them one after another in order to master the game type.
1) Make 3 photocopies of every LG
2) Separate them using the classification method of choice - Blueprint, Kaplan, etc. will all work but I prefer PowerScore
3) Do each LGB section in order and work on the respective game types as you progress. For this I usually do 2-3 new games and 3 repeats every day, but it doesn't matter as long as you get it done. Try to keep some separation (24 hours+) between the first and second time you attempt a game."

The types of games can be found here: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... e#p1042536

Your LR scores are solid. Review your test heavily and see what questions are tripping you up.

I'm not using the RC Bible ATM, so I can't speak to it, but the conventional wisdom is that it's not super helpful. I'd suggest just hitting an RC section every other day from earlier tests and reviewing the days in between.

To your other questions:

-- A 4 point jump (170+) in 10 weeks is well within your reach. For one, most folks on this thread are able to get LG down to -0 or -1. Two, if you can bring that RC score up a few points, you're golden. As for your GPA-- where are you looking?

-- I would suggest taking the SuperPrep PT's and saving the last 25 or so PT's for your final month of studying.

[littlewing67]

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[sodomojo]

To your other questions:

-- A 4 point jump (170+) in 10 weeks is well within your reach. For one, most folks on this thread are able to get LG down to -0 or -1. Two, if you can bring that RC score up a few points, you're golden. As for your GPA-- where are you looking?

Hey thanks so much for your reply! I will be sure to follow the advice.

I'm shooting for Berkeley, but Stanford would be the dream school. I'm in a bit of an odd situation right now where I recently graduated and will actually be going into the military in a couple months (ROTC). So I'm sort of taking the LSAT for the hell of it.

In the event that I do get out within 5 years and will be able to put the LSAT score to use, I would have the GI Bill covering my tuition. So worst case scenario, I figure a 3.9/165 and ED at UVA/NU or the like should put me in an alright spot. With that said, something in the 168-172 range would be ideal.

[CottonHarvest]

Weaken questions are the BANE of my existence ..........................

[littlewing67]

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[chargers21]

Gray day for June today. Be prepared for some newcomers

[Rupert Pupkin]

Gray day for June today. Be prepared for some newcomers

WINTER IS HERE

[jthel08]

Just checking in, was curious what or if any prep courses anybody here is using and if any why they are using what they are. Thanks in advance!

[MediocreAtBest]

Hey guys. First June idiot checking in.

[saltshaker]

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[Mikey]

Hey guys. First June idiot checking in.

sorry to hear

[MediocreAtBest]

Hey guys. First June idiot checking in.

sorry to hear

underperforming is a b

[Mikey]

Hey guys. First June idiot checking in.

sorry to hear

underperforming is a b

it's all good, it happens sometimes buddy.

you'll get em in September though!

[creed]

To your other questions:

-- A 4 point jump (170+) in 10 weeks is well within your reach. For one, most folks on this thread are able to get LG down to -0 or -1. Two, if you can bring that RC score up a few points, you're golden. As for your GPA-- where are you looking?

Hey thanks so much for your reply! I will be sure to follow the advice.

I'm shooting for Berkeley, but Stanford would be the dream school. I'm in a bit of an odd situation right now where I recently graduated and will actually be going into the military in a couple months (ROTC). So I'm sort of taking the LSAT for the hell of it.

In the event that I do get out within 5 years and will be able to put the LSAT score to use, I would have the GI Bill covering my tuition. So worst case scenario, I figure a 3.9/165 and ED at UVA/NU or the like should put me in an alright spot. With that said, something in the 168-172 range would be ideal.

Same dream here, bud. Are you from NorCal?

Best of luck on the test, and thank you for your service.

With a 3.9, you really should be aiming 170+. But either way, you'll go to a great school. Well done.

[Alexandros]

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[tuna_wasabi]

Likely retaker checking in

[Mikey]

Hey guys. First June idiot checking in.

sorry to hear

underperforming is a b

You still did amazingly well. Have a drink and be proud of yourself. You'll kill September.

missed it in the other thread as to how mediocre did, but shit, great score or not, you made it and everyone there deserves a drink!

[creed]

Welcome June friends!

I just knocked on wood before saying this-- but the possible good news is that, since '05, we haven't had any single digit curve years in a row. https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/co ... rgeted.cfm (i just knocked on wood again)

Other side of that coin is that high curve = tough test. But from what I'm reading, June was an easy LG/hard RC which is... like the shortest stick you could draw.

[Impressionist]

June group didn't sacrifice enough goats. I've already sac'ed 38... this week! Between drilling LR and LG that is.

As for curves, bless us with a -13 to make up for this -9 atrocity oh great LSAC gods!

[AmbitiousSoul]

Checking in!

Also, this is my first post! Hey, everyone!

[Walliums]

As I said in the June waiters thread, choo choo all aboard the retake train of despair!

[Walliums]

Welcome June friends!

I just knocked on wood before saying this-- but the possible good news is that, since '05, we haven't had any single digit curve years in a row. https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/co ... rgeted.cfm (i just knocked on wood again)

Other side of that coin is that high curve = tough test. But from what I'm reading, June was an easy LG/hard RC which is... like the shortest stick you could draw.

I did really good on both LG and RC and just failed at LR. lolololol

[saf18hornet]

Officially got my June score, less than a 173 so here I am. My mission over the next 9 weeks is to do every RC section ever released in order of difficulty. It's the one thing keeping me from a 175+

[Barry grandpapy]

Seeing the lurkers come out today makes me realize how much shitposting potential is still out there. Guys, think of the possibilities.