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What are my chances of realistically being able to up my score to 168+?
I just finished my sophomore year of college, and I have a 3.51 GPA. I'm hoping to graduate with around a 3.6 or maybe close to a 3.7 if I do very well.
Because my GPA isn't stellar, I know I need to do quite well on the LSAT, probably a 168 or better I'm guessing to have a chance to crack the top 14.
I just took my first LSAT ever, I am familiar with the test and have looked over some sections, but I haven't done any studying at all.
I scored a 155 all set and done. I got -3 and -5 in both LR sections, I got -5 in RC, and -20 in logic games.
Honestly, for the logic games, I made it through the first game and got it right, but the others I had no idea what to do on so I just gave up and assumed I would get all of them wrong. I have heard that this is the most learnable section on the test, but is it reasonable to expect myself to go from getting -19 to -0-2 even with a lot of preparation?
With a diagnostic like mine, is there hope to score a 168 or above, or maybe even a 170?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
Because my GPA isn't stellar, I know I need to do quite well on the LSAT, probably a 168 or better I'm guessing to have a chance to crack the top 14.
I just took my first LSAT ever, I am familiar with the test and have looked over some sections, but I haven't done any studying at all.
I scored a 155 all set and done. I got -3 and -5 in both LR sections, I got -5 in RC, and -20 in logic games.
Honestly, for the logic games, I made it through the first game and got it right, but the others I had no idea what to do on so I just gave up and assumed I would get all of them wrong. I have heard that this is the most learnable section on the test, but is it reasonable to expect myself to go from getting -19 to -0-2 even with a lot of preparation?
With a diagnostic like mine, is there hope to score a 168 or above, or maybe even a 170?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
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Re: What are my chances of realistically being able to up my score to 168+?
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Re: What are my chances of realistically being able to up my score to 168+?
1) When are you taking the official LSAT? This is assuming you have even chosen a date, and its perfectly fine if you haven't.
I suppose from what I know it is best to give yourself somewhere around 4 months. 3 is doable, but may be on the lean side time wise.
2) Get yourself some great prep materials. I personally recommend The LSAT Trainer, The Powerscore Bible set, and Manhattan LR. Also ever official LSAT. I am using the first 30 PTs tests for drilling, and the rest for taking full-time practice tests and reviewing. Take under time conditions and it will allow you to access your weaknesses better and keep you honest.
3) There's some amazing studying guides right here on this forum. I am using a mix of a How to get a 180 schedule I found on here and Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer 16 week. You can sort of customize to work with your schedule. I am working Full time and it sucks, but if you put in 2-3 hours on weekdays and 4-5 on the weekends, it is certainly doable.
And you are right, the logic games is where I am seeing the most tangible improvement. When I first started studying about 3 weeks ago I could barely finish one. Now I am at least 10x better and feel that I can essentially do any question, but now its a matter of timing and avoiding dumb mistake (i.e. reading carefully)
In sum, I believe with a 155 diagnostic you should be able to gain the 13 points you need. I'm confident because you seemed to have missed most of an entire section. Once you get that down you'll easily be in the low 160s. From there getting the 5-8 extra points will come from pattern recognition, drilling, and just having the skill set to beat this very learnable test.
Good luck OP
ETA: I think you have a good chance to achieve a 168+ with 3-4 months of studying, proper prep materials, and consistency.
I suppose from what I know it is best to give yourself somewhere around 4 months. 3 is doable, but may be on the lean side time wise.
2) Get yourself some great prep materials. I personally recommend The LSAT Trainer, The Powerscore Bible set, and Manhattan LR. Also ever official LSAT. I am using the first 30 PTs tests for drilling, and the rest for taking full-time practice tests and reviewing. Take under time conditions and it will allow you to access your weaknesses better and keep you honest.
3) There's some amazing studying guides right here on this forum. I am using a mix of a How to get a 180 schedule I found on here and Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer 16 week. You can sort of customize to work with your schedule. I am working Full time and it sucks, but if you put in 2-3 hours on weekdays and 4-5 on the weekends, it is certainly doable.
And you are right, the logic games is where I am seeing the most tangible improvement. When I first started studying about 3 weeks ago I could barely finish one. Now I am at least 10x better and feel that I can essentially do any question, but now its a matter of timing and avoiding dumb mistake (i.e. reading carefully)
In sum, I believe with a 155 diagnostic you should be able to gain the 13 points you need. I'm confident because you seemed to have missed most of an entire section. Once you get that down you'll easily be in the low 160s. From there getting the 5-8 extra points will come from pattern recognition, drilling, and just having the skill set to beat this very learnable test.
Good luck OP
ETA: I think you have a good chance to achieve a 168+ with 3-4 months of studying, proper prep materials, and consistency.
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Re: What are my chances of realistically being able to up my score to 168+?
I'd say pretty realistic. I haven't taken the test yet (I take in two weeks!), but I'm PTing in the low 170s currently and I started with a 154 diagnostic. Good luck!
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Re: What are my chances of realistically being able to up my score to 168+?
nis73 wrote:I just finished my sophomore year of college, and I have a 3.51 GPA. I'm hoping to graduate with around a 3.6 or maybe close to a 3.7 if I do very well.
Because my GPA isn't stellar, I know I need to do quite well on the LSAT, probably a 168 or better I'm guessing to have a chance to crack the top 14.
I just took my first LSAT ever, I am familiar with the test and have looked over some sections, but I haven't done any studying at all.
I scored a 155 all set and done. I got -3 and -5 in both LR sections, I got -5 in RC, and -20 in logic games.
Honestly, for the logic games, I made it through the first game and got it right, but the others I had no idea what to do on so I just gave up and assumed I would get all of them wrong. I have heard that this is the most learnable section on the test, but is it reasonable to expect myself to go from getting -19 to -0-2 even with a lot of preparation?
With a diagnostic like mine, is there hope to score a 168 or above, or maybe even a 170?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
You definitely have a shot at a 170+. A 155 is a strong diagnostic, and you lost most of your points on logic games. Yes, it's the most learnable section, and if you apply yourself, you can definitely get it down to a near perfect score. Losing only ~4 points on each LR section is an especially good sign, as that section is the most important and takes the longest to learn.
You've still got two years of college left, though, so I'd focus on keeping your grades up. If you want to devote a few months to studying so you can crank out the test and be done with it, then hey, go for it. Your score will be valid for 5 years. But are you really sure that you want to be a lawyer? Make sure you do your research, and try to get some work experience to get a feel for it.
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Re: What are my chances of realistically being able to up my score to 168+?
My diagnostic was 149 and was -18 or so in LG and I worked my ass off and scored a 174. No fluke either I was Pting in 170's