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Should you retake? I made a graph
I was bored at work and calculated the t14 admissions probabilities according to my GPA range of 3.8-3.9 and LSAT scores from 170-180. It's basically a visualization of mylsn data from the past 5 years (so sample sizes are relatively small, but still instructive) over a greater number of scores than mylsn allows at a time. Thought it might be interesting to others.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... nteractive
My main takeaways:
At HYS, intuitively, the higher score is generally better, with greatest returns after 172.
178-179 is a weird score, probably owing to the relatively low incidences. It's just like an odd no-man's-land between a great score and a perfect one, and the mean acceptance is slightly lower for these scores than a 177 or a 180.
I thought this point was most interesting: at just about every t14 other than HYS, there is almost no percentage difference between a 172 and a 176 in terms of admission probability. At UVA, Mich, and Penn you're statistically worse off. I haven't looked at scholarships (that's probably where the bigger difference is), but you're no more likely to get in with a 3.85/172 than a 3.85/176, at least broadly speaking according to this data.
Anyways, hope this is helpful! These are fun so if there's a demand for more using different ranges let me know.
And here's a graph for the 3.6-3.7 range.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... nteractive
The higher ranges should be taken with a pound of salt because sample sizes over the past 5 years are generally <20 for each school between 177 and 180.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... nteractive
My main takeaways:
At HYS, intuitively, the higher score is generally better, with greatest returns after 172.
178-179 is a weird score, probably owing to the relatively low incidences. It's just like an odd no-man's-land between a great score and a perfect one, and the mean acceptance is slightly lower for these scores than a 177 or a 180.
I thought this point was most interesting: at just about every t14 other than HYS, there is almost no percentage difference between a 172 and a 176 in terms of admission probability. At UVA, Mich, and Penn you're statistically worse off. I haven't looked at scholarships (that's probably where the bigger difference is), but you're no more likely to get in with a 3.85/172 than a 3.85/176, at least broadly speaking according to this data.
Anyways, hope this is helpful! These are fun so if there's a demand for more using different ranges let me know.
And here's a graph for the 3.6-3.7 range.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... nteractive
The higher ranges should be taken with a pound of salt because sample sizes over the past 5 years are generally <20 for each school between 177 and 180.
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Re: Should you retake? I made a graph
This is helpful, thanks! Any interest in doing one for a 3.6-3.7 GPA?
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Re: Should you retake? I made a graph
I second this!simplypara588 wrote:This is helpful, thanks! Any interest in doing one for a 3.6-3.7 GPA?
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Re: Should you retake? I made a graph
Absolutely! I'll update the OP with the link.TheMikey wrote:I second this!simplypara588 wrote:This is helpful, thanks! Any interest in doing one for a 3.6-3.7 GPA?
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Thanks! This is actually very helpfulforum_user wrote:Absolutely! I'll update the OP with the link.TheMikey wrote:I second this!simplypara588 wrote:This is helpful, thanks! Any interest in doing one for a 3.6-3.7 GPA?
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Re: Should you retake? I made a graph
This is a hall of fame thread
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Re: Should you retake? I made a graph
The first graph (3.8-3.9) is locked for me...says I need permission?
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Re: Should you retake? I made a graph
Did you mean to write there is no difference between a 3.85/172 and a 3.85/176? Confused as to your intended meaning. Hope you can clarify this for me OP.forum_user wrote: I thought this point was most interesting: at just about every t14 other than HYS, there is almost no percentage difference between a 172 and a 176 in terms of admission probability. At UVA, Mich, and Penn you're statistically worse off. I haven't looked at scholarships (that's probably where the bigger difference is), but you're no more likely to get in with a 3.85/172 than a 3.85/172,
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Re: Should you retake? I made a graph
Cheers!RamTitan wrote:This is a hall of fame thread
That's weird--did the same for me and I made the damn thing. Let me try to fix that.HYSplease wrote:The first graph (3.8-3.9) is locked for me...says I need permission?
EDIT: Okay try now? I think something weird happened when I published the second graph, but it looks like both links are working for me now.
That's right, sorry about that--I updated the OP to fix the typo.KunAgnis wrote:Did you mean to write there is no difference between a 3.85/172 and a 3.85/176? Confused as to your intended meaning. Hope you can clarify this for me OP.forum_user wrote: I thought this point was most interesting: at just about every t14 other than HYS, there is almost no percentage difference between a 172 and a 176 in terms of admission probability. At UVA, Mich, and Penn you're statistically worse off. I haven't looked at scholarships (that's probably where the bigger difference is), but you're no more likely to get in with a 3.85/172 than a 3.85/172,