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Post by Mikey » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:22 pm

proteinshake wrote: go to trends and you'll see it in the chart under the Section Performance graph
Oh there we go, thanks!!!

So, the LG section was level 5/5 difficulty. Ok, that makes me feel better knowing that I didn't get wrecked by a level 2 difficulty section ;D Either way, I'm not thinking straight today, but tomorrow is a brand new day!

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Post by 34iplaw » Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:12 pm

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jagerbom79 wrote: Hmm yeah I agree. And honestly man, It could have just been an off-day for you. It happens!! When you review the games are you like "Wow I am an idiot" or do you struggle to see the inferences adn logic made to get them correct?
I don't review LG tbh, I just never have. The only way I would, is if I circled an A/C that I know is right, but I'd like to go more in depth with it after, which doesn't really happen much. Idk, I don't feel the need to BR the games, it just seems weird to me, haha. But usually I can make inferences upfront basically every time unless it's a weird f'd up game. I hope it was just an off day, I'm not even going to score this LG section, I'll just do it again tomorrow and see what happens.
I have room to improve on games, but I don't think BR is all that helpful, as any game I can get -0 with no time constraint.

That said, I punish myself by forcing myself to prove each right and wrong answer...even if it's a fairly obvious one (i.e. J - R , Which one of the following can't be last (B) J).

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Post by ngogirl12 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:22 am

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ngogirl12 wrote:So, for LG I'm doing a new strategy:

1) I'm going to hold off on the grouping games chapter until I get to that section in the curriculum. Post lesson, I will do the chapter.
2) To keep practicing LG, I'm going to do a timed section of the 40's/50's per day (starting tomorrow).

3) It's off to RC for me!
I'm not sure which materials you are referring to, but you may want some very precursory introduction. That said, I think, by virtue of being ITT, you likely have a conceptual grasp of grouping games... so you probably don't need it. I just think that having some basis in a topic is really helpful in better understanding subsequent lessons!
True, true. I have gone through LG books (Nova and the LG Bible) a LONG time ago, so I am familiar with the grouping games, it's just that I was a bit slow on this game type and was doing trial and error. So, I decided why waste my time and end up drilling almost all these games, instead I stopped after doing 2 games. I looked at the curriculum and JY has lessons on grouping games. I thought I could go through the lessons and then hit the LG chapter after I complete the lessons.

The material I'm referring to is Cambridge LG from PT's 1-38.

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Post by ngogirl12 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:27 am

Started the Memory Method RC lesson today!

Question for those of you who use it, do you sit through JY's dissecting of the passage after doing the passage and questions on your own first? I did that on two passages and it was killing me, but in a way I think it's good to see how everything is interconnected.

Thoughts?

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:47 am

ngogirl12 wrote:Started the Memory Method RC lesson today!

Question for those of you who use it, do you sit through JY's dissecting of the passage after doing the passage and questions on your own first? I did that on two passages and it was killing me, but in a way I think it's good to see how everything is interconnected.

Thoughts?
If it's a passage that gave me a bit of trouble and even confused me the slightest bit during my first run through it (I BR passages before I watch his explanation) then I do.

But if I understand the passage and feel like I wrecked it then I don't.

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:15 am

Going to finish the last of MLR and print sets for the next while of LG, RC, and LR. LR sets will be 25/26 of 15+ questions, and 30 of 1-15 questions.

In completely unrelated news, I fucking broke my coffee machine/pot yesterday because I left in the freezer on Friday and forgot about it, and smart me was so desperate for coffee yesterday morning I stuck the frozen pot right on the coffee machine to heat it up, and, shocker, it broke. Guess it's instant coffee for me.

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:38 am

Alexandros wrote:Going to finish the last of MLR and print sets for the next while of LG, RC, and LR. LR sets will be 25/26 of 15+ questions, and 30 of 1-15 questions.

In completely unrelated news, I fucking broke my coffee machine/pot yesterday because I left in the freezer on Friday and forgot about it, and smart me was so desperate for coffee yesterday morning I stuck the frozen pot right on the coffee machine to heat it up, and, shocker, it broke. Guess it's instant coffee for me.
Damnnn, my condolences. Rip coffee pot, heading to Starbucks doe so if you want something just lemme know bruv haha

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:17 am

TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Going to finish the last of MLR and print sets for the next while of LG, RC, and LR. LR sets will be 25/26 of 15+ questions, and 30 of 1-15 questions.

In completely unrelated news, I fucking broke my coffee machine/pot yesterday because I left in the freezer on Friday and forgot about it, and smart me was so desperate for coffee yesterday morning I stuck the frozen pot right on the coffee machine to heat it up, and, shocker, it broke. Guess it's instant coffee for me.
Damnnn, my condolences. Rip coffee pot, heading to Starbucks doe so if you want something just lemme know bruv haha
Thanks - ahaha I've been rethinking whether I'm suited for law school or, like, life as an adult in the modern world. :lol: it's okay though, because this thing was crap and only held 5 cups of coffee, and what kind of weak nerd only needs 5 cups of coffee a day.

Sbux is a great idea. Should head there once I've finished this cup from the sketchy coffee vending machine thing in the library. :)

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Post by proteinshake » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:38 am

Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Going to finish the last of MLR and print sets for the next while of LG, RC, and LR. LR sets will be 25/26 of 15+ questions, and 30 of 1-15 questions.

In completely unrelated news, I fucking broke my coffee machine/pot yesterday because I left in the freezer on Friday and forgot about it, and smart me was so desperate for coffee yesterday morning I stuck the frozen pot right on the coffee machine to heat it up, and, shocker, it broke. Guess it's instant coffee for me.
Damnnn, my condolences. Rip coffee pot, heading to Starbucks doe so if you want something just lemme know bruv haha
Thanks - ahaha I've been rethinking whether I'm suited for law school or, like, life as an adult in the modern world. :lol: it's okay though, because this thing was crap and only held 5 cups of coffee, and what kind of weak nerd only needs 5 cups of coffee a day.

Sbux is a great idea. Should head there once I've finished this cup from the sketchy coffee vending machine thing in the library. :)
I don't even know how to make coffee (even using a coffee machine), I've never done it! (not a coffee drinker)

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:39 am

Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Going to finish the last of MLR and print sets for the next while of LG, RC, and LR. LR sets will be 25/26 of 15+ questions, and 30 of 1-15 questions.

In completely unrelated news, I fucking broke my coffee machine/pot yesterday because I left in the freezer on Friday and forgot about it, and smart me was so desperate for coffee yesterday morning I stuck the frozen pot right on the coffee machine to heat it up, and, shocker, it broke. Guess it's instant coffee for me.
Damnnn, my condolences. Rip coffee pot, heading to Starbucks doe so if you want something just lemme know bruv haha
Thanks - ahaha I've been rethinking whether I'm suited for law school or, like, life as an adult in the modern world. :lol: it's okay though, because this thing was crap and only held 5 cups of coffee, and what kind of weak nerd only needs 5 cups of coffee a day.

Sbux is a great idea. Should head there once I've finished this cup from the sketchy coffee vending machine thing in the library. :)
Whether you go to law school or not, adulthood in today's society will catch you. So I mean, there's no running from it lmao.

Go get some starbucks! I got myself a breakfast sandwich as well, which i rarely ever do but it's pretty good. Is that vending machine coffee at least good though? I know what machine you're talking about.. lol

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:41 am

proteinshake wrote: I don't even know how to make coffee (even using a coffee machine), I've never done it! (not a coffee drinker)
I have a coffee maker and a dunkin donuts blend, but honestly I barely use it. I usually tend to just roll with the instant coffee if I make some at home, it's so much less time consuming and still tastes good

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Post by 20170322 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:20 am

So, after some experimentation, I have advice for everyone regarding RC.


Pick your favorite periodical. NYT, WSJ, Economist, hell, even the Washington Times if you hate yourself.

Then, do 7sage's memory drills with it (sans questions, obviously). In my experience, the news passages are harder, so this will make the actual LSAT RC seem much easier.

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Post by 34iplaw » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:27 am

Wow, I have not slept in that late in a long time. Kind of feels amazing...probably because yesterday was a little too long.

Going to do more methods of reasoning questions at home after having some soup and then head to the library.

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:42 am

SweetTort wrote:So, after some experimentation, I have advice for everyone regarding RC.


Pick your favorite periodical. NYT, WSJ, Economist, hell, even the Washington Times if you hate yourself.

Then, do 7sage's memory drills with it (sans questions, obviously). In my experience, the news passages are harder, so this will make the actual LSAT RC seem much easier.
Will do! Might try it out with the NY law journal seeing as I get one everytime I show up to my internship. I also have a shit ton downstairs in a stack from last year haha.

Also a piece of advice in general, I recommend meditation. Even if it's just 5-10 mins a day, it should help clear your mind a bit. I meditated on Friday and ended up doing well with prep, didn't meditate yesterday and did shitty with prep, meditated this morning and just zoomed through 2 RC passages and getting ready to attack an LG section that screwed me yesterday. Although this correlation might just be a coincidence, I still think it can help you focus more even if the meditation isn't the primary influence of it, the thought is what counts!

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:54 am

Finished how ever many LR questions that was (40-ish?) -1 -_- The LR love/hate relationship is strong rn.
Looked at the PT from yesterday - the 1 mark off LR was a bubbling error, so I feel a bit better about that at least (maybe a sign of actual LR improvement, at long last? or, you know, luck.), but the -2 RC were legit. So at least I can console myself that I would've made target had I bubbled correctly.

Time to start putting together packs. 8)
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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:58 am

TheMikey wrote:
proteinshake wrote: I don't even know how to make coffee (even using a coffee machine), I've never done it! (not a coffee drinker)
I have a coffee maker and a dunkin donuts blend, but honestly I barely use it. I usually tend to just roll with the instant coffee if I make some at home, it's so much less time consuming and still tastes good
@ both of you
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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:01 pm

TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Going to finish the last of MLR and print sets for the next while of LG, RC, and LR. LR sets will be 25/26 of 15+ questions, and 30 of 1-15 questions.

In completely unrelated news, I fucking broke my coffee machine/pot yesterday because I left in the freezer on Friday and forgot about it, and smart me was so desperate for coffee yesterday morning I stuck the frozen pot right on the coffee machine to heat it up, and, shocker, it broke. Guess it's instant coffee for me.
Damnnn, my condolences. Rip coffee pot, heading to Starbucks doe so if you want something just lemme know bruv haha
Thanks - ahaha I've been rethinking whether I'm suited for law school or, like, life as an adult in the modern world. :lol: it's okay though, because this thing was crap and only held 5 cups of coffee, and what kind of weak nerd only needs 5 cups of coffee a day.

Sbux is a great idea. Should head there once I've finished this cup from the sketchy coffee vending machine thing in the library. :)
Whether you go to law school or not, adulthood in today's society will catch you. So I mean, there's no running from it lmao.

Go get some starbucks! I got myself a breakfast sandwich as well, which i rarely ever do but it's pretty good. Is that vending machine coffee at least good though? I know what machine you're talking about.. lol
An unfortunate truth. /sigh

Like, it's coffee? I don't want to speculate how long it's been since they changed the coffee grinds / water / whatever else is in that machine.

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Post by ngogirl12 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:09 pm

TheMikey wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:Started the Memory Method RC lesson today!

Question for those of you who use it, do you sit through JY's dissecting of the passage after doing the passage and questions on your own first? I did that on two passages and it was killing me, but in a way I think it's good to see how everything is interconnected.

Thoughts?
If it's a passage that gave me a bit of trouble and even confused me the slightest bit during my first run through it (I BR passages before I watch his explanation) then I do.

But if I understand the passage and feel like I wrecked it then I don't.
Oh perfect. Thanks!! I was timing myself according to the Memory Method but doing it untimed seems so much better!

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Post by 20170322 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:11 pm

There is no worse feeling than missing a question you got correct on a previous test.

Any tips for cutting down on stupid LG mistakes? Really need to go -0.

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Post by ngogirl12 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:12 pm

proteinshake wrote: I don't even know how to make coffee (even using a coffee machine), I've never done it! (not a coffee drinker)
Me neither. I don't like coffee I prefer herbal and green tea :).

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Post by ngogirl12 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:16 pm

SweetTort wrote:There is no worse feeling than missing a question you got correct on a previous test.

Any tips for cutting down on stupid LG mistakes? Really need to go -0.
Oh rats that really sucks! Do you think your rushing through the games your doing? Other than drilling the only advice I can give is:

1) pause and confirm you wrote the rules correctly on your game
2) for each question look at the information they give you whether it's rule driven or inducing hypotheticals and confirm your reasoning is correct

Try the game again in a few days see if you go -0.

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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:20 pm

Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Going to finish the last of MLR and print sets for the next while of LG, RC, and LR. LR sets will be 25/26 of 15+ questions, and 30 of 1-15 questions.

In completely unrelated news, I fucking broke my coffee machine/pot yesterday because I left in the freezer on Friday and forgot about it, and smart me was so desperate for coffee yesterday morning I stuck the frozen pot right on the coffee machine to heat it up, and, shocker, it broke. Guess it's instant coffee for me.
Damnnn, my condolences. Rip coffee pot, heading to Starbucks doe so if you want something just lemme know bruv haha
Thanks - ahaha I've been rethinking whether I'm suited for law school or, like, life as an adult in the modern world. :lol: it's okay though, because this thing was crap and only held 5 cups of coffee, and what kind of weak nerd only needs 5 cups of coffee a day.

Sbux is a great idea. Should head there once I've finished this cup from the sketchy coffee vending machine thing in the library. :)
I used to do it the "Old school" way and I gotta tell you..a Keurig is totally worth the investment!

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Post by ngogirl12 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:24 pm

So now after having a hearty breakfast (TJ pancakes and lemon water), I'm going to do some dense reading before hitting up LSAT prep.

My agenda for today is:
1) Finish the memory method lesson + RC drilling
2) LR (harder MBT/MBF questions) lesson and drilling

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Post by LawTweet » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:39 pm

Well clearly my 173 from yesterday was a true fluke. Took another practice test in identical conditions this morning. It felt equally hard. I got 165.

-4 LR
-2 LR
-3 RC
-8 LG LOL

So far my PTs have been 163, 173, 165.

Hoping I can break into consistent 170s before the September test. Sigh.

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Post by proteinshake » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:41 pm

ngogirl12 wrote:
proteinshake wrote: I don't even know how to make coffee (even using a coffee machine), I've never done it! (not a coffee drinker)
Me neither. I don't like coffee I prefer herbal and green tea :).
same! I have a bunch of Twinnings green, black, and jasmine green tea.

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