The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[MAPP]

And so my watch begins.

I can tell you when I will not be studying, whenever a new episode of Game of Thrones is on

[ngogirl12]

AND I have heard that the more recent games are repeating the older LSAT's

woah! This would be awesome, where did you hear this?

like from the first wave!

As in PTs 1-38?

Yupp. I heard this from people on the forums taking the recent lsat administrations, I mean from what I read it was not the same games but a return to the same type of games, i.e. rule driven that was seen in the earlier waves. So, yeah I'm going through the LG Cambridge bundle and hoping the drilling will pay off.

Yesterday I did chapter 3 and I got most of the games correct but my timing was off, so I'm going to go to 7Sage and drill!

[ngogirl12]

And so my watch begins.

I can tell you when I will not be studying, whenever a new episode of Game of Thrones is on

Haha I got up to Season 5, I'm saving the rest to catch up with after the LSAT!

[ngogirl12]

AND I have heard that the more recent games are repeating the older LSAT's

woah! This would be awesome, where did you hear this?

like from the first wave!

As in PTs 1-38?

do you mean like pattern games? if so, then yes. the December 2015 LSAT had a VERY strange game that messed me up.

I was supposed to take that test, but I was rushing through the curriculum and my scoring went waay down in early November so after much internal debate, I decided to postpone to June (didn't get through the curriculum as quickly as I thought and here I am!) I heard the games on that test were hard! But no I read on the forums that the early 70s some of the games use analysis similar to the rule driven games of the earlier tests. I haven't seen most of the 60s or any of the 70s. I'm saving those for my PT days.

[ngogirl12]

I've looked at the LSAT Hacks site for explanations, but I don't like their explanations I find them to be a bit vague in their reasoning.

yeah, i thought it'd often gloss over some questions with legit debatable issues, as if someone looked at the answer key for the credited choice before writing to come up with reasons to justify it.

+1 a lot of self help books do this too, that's why I stick with the usual ones Manhattan/7 Sage/Trainer

I find when I spend a lot of time on a particular question type MSS/Weaken I start to see patterns within the question type. This only comes from reviewing the questions thoroughly though and through periods of frustration. My goal is to be at a very secure place by the time I start PTing lol.

anything that doesn't make one just accept the explanation for credited choice as if it's a presumptive choice can likely be useful in reviewing. I found mlsat forum to be a bit of use this respect.

+1 Manhattan LSAT forum helped me see a lot of patterns in the question types: MSS (which I really struggled with) and Weaken just by reviewing a lot of the questions.

[MAPP]

And so my watch begins.

I can tell you when I will not be studying, whenever a new episode of Game of Thrones is on

Haha I got up to Season 5, I'm saving the rest to catch up with after the LSAT!

Well you have better self-control than me!

[jeremydc]

Dang, I've been so busy focusing on my MA comprehensive final and publishing an article. Hopefully I'll get through half of the LR Bundle next week.

[PT2011]

for those using the trainer along with the Bibles and Manhattan, are you drilling with the Trainer? I figure I'd do light drilling with the trainer and get more intense when I use the Bibles and Manhattan.

That's what I'm doing. Just some easy ones with the trainer, then with manhattan and the bibles i'll do the ore difficult problems.

[ngogirl12]

I spent all of yesterday and today reviewing Strengthen questions. I'm not only reviewing questions I got wrong but also ones I wasn't sure of the reasoning of one of the answer choices. Still, didn't think it would take THIS long.. Siiigh.

[cgra1916]

I spent all of yesterday and today reviewing Strengthen questions. I'm not only reviewing questions I got wrong but also ones I wasn't sure of the reasoning of one of the answer choices. Still, didn't think it would take THIS long.. Siiigh.

Man, I really need to get on your level of studying consistency and dedication... Seems like you're on the ball with studying!I hope to achieve this in the summer, teaching full-time has got me studying about 2 hours each day and about 3-4 hours one day on the weekends :/

[MAPP]

I spent all of yesterday and today reviewing Strengthen questions. I'm not only reviewing questions I got wrong but also ones I wasn't sure of the reasoning of one of the answer choices. Still, didn't think it would take THIS long.. Siiigh.

Are you going to have much material to study over the summer?

[ngogirl12]

I spent all of yesterday and today reviewing Strengthen questions. I'm not only reviewing questions I got wrong but also ones I wasn't sure of the reasoning of one of the answer choices. Still, didn't think it would take THIS long.. Siiigh.

Man, I really need to get on your level of studying consistency and dedication... Seems like you're on the ball with studying!I hope to achieve this in the summer, teaching full-time has got me studying about 2 hours each day and about 3-4 hours one day on the weekends :/

Thanks, but just reviewing the questions alone is really frustrating because I didn't think it would take this long! I just want to move on with the material!! It's been all LR and I want to hit RC and LG too and also the other question types.. Sigh.

Just maximize the time you do have and as long as your concentration is 100% you should be fine. Hopefully. What do I know? I think though if your consistent and focused you should be fine.

[ngogirl12]

I spent all of yesterday and today reviewing Strengthen questions. I'm not only reviewing questions I got wrong but also ones I wasn't sure of the reasoning of one of the answer choices. Still, didn't think it would take THIS long.. Siiigh.

Are you going to have much material to study over the summer?

I'm hoping to finish going through material by June and then from June-August I'll just do PT's and work on problem areas.

[proteinshake]

Retakers: did you take a "diagnostic" PT again? if so, was it helpful?

[Doubting Law]

Took a Kaplan course two years ago during my sophomore year of undergrad. Diagnostic was a dismal 149, can't remember what my new score after the course was. Not sure if I would recommend taking the Kaplan course again. Does anyone have any experience with other prep companies like Powerscore or Princeton Review? I'm going to be studying all summer and was looking for suggestions/reviews.

[Mikey]

Took a Kaplan course two years ago during my sophomore year of undergrad. Diagnostic was a dismal 149, can't remember what my new score after the course was. Not sure if I would recommend taking the Kaplan course again. Does anyone have any experience with other prep companies like Powerscore or Princeton Review? I'm going to be studying all summer and was looking for suggestions/reviews.

Save your money and self study. There's tons of books, videos, and materials that you can use along with the help of people on here! I contemplated on taking a course but instead went the self study route and don't regret it.

[Doubting Law]

Took a Kaplan course two years ago during my sophomore year of undergrad. Diagnostic was a dismal 149, can't remember what my new score after the course was. Not sure if I would recommend taking the Kaplan course again. Does anyone have any experience with other prep companies like Powerscore or Princeton Review? I'm going to be studying all summer and was looking for suggestions/reviews.

Save your money and self study. There's tons of books, videos, and materials that you can use along with the help of people on here! I contemplated on taking a course but instead went the self study route and don't regret it.

Yea I still have my work books from the Kaplan course and I bought the Powerscore Logic Games bible (that's the section I did most poorly on in the diagnostic) and it seems to be really helpful so far... The one thing I like about the live courses though is they hold you more accountable and keep you on a schedule. Also is anyone in this group planning on applying in fall '17?

[twiix]

Took a Kaplan course two years ago during my sophomore year of undergrad. Diagnostic was a dismal 149, can't remember what my new score after the course was. Not sure if I would recommend taking the Kaplan course again. Does anyone have any experience with other prep companies like Powerscore or Princeton Review? I'm going to be studying all summer and was looking for suggestions/reviews.

Save your money and self study. There's tons of books, videos, and materials that you can use along with the help of people on here! I contemplated on taking a course but instead went the self study route and don't regret it.

Yea I still have my work books from the Kaplan course and I bought the Powerscore Logic Games bible (that's the section I did most poorly on in the diagnostic) and it seems to be really helpful so far... The one thing I like about the live courses though is they hold you more accountable and keep you on a schedule. Also is anyone in this group planning on applying in fall '17?

The accountability factor is definitely a big one. I thought long and hard about it, but realized that if I can't hold myself accountable to my own future, it probably isn't something I should be pursuing. The courses can still be a good kick start but I wanted to do it on my own, and it has made the self studying way more productive because I have a desire to keep up with it and I constantly strive to do better.

And onto the second question - I plan on applying in the fall of '16 in order to attend in 2017 I think that's what you meant at least?

[Doubting Law]

Took a Kaplan course two years ago during my sophomore year of undergrad. Diagnostic was a dismal 149, can't remember what my new score after the course was. Not sure if I would recommend taking the Kaplan course again. Does anyone have any experience with other prep companies like Powerscore or Princeton Review? I'm going to be studying all summer and was looking for suggestions/reviews.

Save your money and self study. There's tons of books, videos, and materials that you can use along with the help of people on here! I contemplated on taking a course but instead went the self study route and don't regret it.

Yea I still have my work books from the Kaplan course and I bought the Powerscore Logic Games bible (that's the section I did most poorly on in the diagnostic) and it seems to be really helpful so far... The one thing I like about the live courses though is they hold you more accountable and keep you on a schedule. Also is anyone in this group planning on applying in fall '17?

The accountability factor is definitely a big one. I thought long and hard about it, but realized that if I can't hold myself accountable to my own future, it probably isn't something I should be pursuing. The courses can still be a good kick start but I wanted to do it on my own, and it has made the self studying way more productive because I have a desire to keep up with it and I constantly strive to do better.

And onto the second question - I plan on applying in the fall of '16 in order to attend in 2017 I think that's what you meant at least?

That's a good point. And yes, that's what I meant haha.

[cgra1916]

Took a Kaplan course two years ago during my sophomore year of undergrad. Diagnostic was a dismal 149, can't remember what my new score after the course was. Not sure if I would recommend taking the Kaplan course again. Does anyone have any experience with other prep companies like Powerscore or Princeton Review? I'm going to be studying all summer and was looking for suggestions/reviews.

Save your money and self study. There's tons of books, videos, and materials that you can use along with the help of people on here! I contemplated on taking a course but instead went the self study route and don't regret it.

Yea I still have my work books from the Kaplan course and I bought the Powerscore Logic Games bible (that's the section I did most poorly on in the diagnostic) and it seems to be really helpful so far... The one thing I like about the live courses though is they hold you more accountable and keep you on a schedule. Also is anyone in this group planning on applying in fall '17?

The accountability factor is definitely a big one. I thought long and hard about it, but realized that if I can't hold myself accountable to my own future, it probably isn't something I should be pursuing. The courses can still be a good kick start but I wanted to do it on my own, and it has made the self studying way more productive because I have a desire to keep up with it and I constantly strive to do better.

And onto the second question - I plan on applying in the fall of '16 in order to attend in 2017 I think that's what you meant at least?

That's a good point. And yes, that's what I meant haha.

Despite what everyone has suggested, I still registered for the Kaplan course. I feel like even though it may not be as helpful as others have said, I think I'd regret not taking the course if I end up getting a bad score haha.

+1 on applying Fall '16, I'd assume everyone on here is on the same boat applying Fall '16 to be enrolled Fall '17.

[twiix]

Took a Kaplan course two years ago during my sophomore year of undergrad. Diagnostic was a dismal 149, can't remember what my new score after the course was. Not sure if I would recommend taking the Kaplan course again. Does anyone have any experience with other prep companies like Powerscore or Princeton Review? I'm going to be studying all summer and was looking for suggestions/reviews.

Save your money and self study. There's tons of books, videos, and materials that you can use along with the help of people on here! I contemplated on taking a course but instead went the self study route and don't regret it.

Yea I still have my work books from the Kaplan course and I bought the Powerscore Logic Games bible (that's the section I did most poorly on in the diagnostic) and it seems to be really helpful so far... The one thing I like about the live courses though is they hold you more accountable and keep you on a schedule. Also is anyone in this group planning on applying in fall '17?

The accountability factor is definitely a big one. I thought long and hard about it, but realized that if I can't hold myself accountable to my own future, it probably isn't something I should be pursuing. The courses can still be a good kick start but I wanted to do it on my own, and it has made the self studying way more productive because I have a desire to keep up with it and I constantly strive to do better.

And onto the second question - I plan on applying in the fall of '16 in order to attend in 2017 I think that's what you meant at least?

That's a good point. And yes, that's what I meant haha.

Despite what everyone has suggested, I still registered for the Kaplan course. I feel like even though it may not be as helpful as others have said, I think I'd regret not taking the course if I end up getting a bad score haha.

+1 on applying Fall '16, I'd assume everyone on here is on the same boat applying Fall '16 to be enrolled Fall '17.

Yeah definitely do whatever fits your personal preferences and study habits best. I think people say it's not necessary just so people don't think in order to do well on this test, you HAVE to dump copious amounts of money into material and guidance. Best of luck

[ngogirl12]

SO.. I didn't get much studying done yesterday, aside of two games I did last night. Both were perfect scores one took waay too long 11 minutes, but that includes my mom and sister talking to me while I did the game, so I'm hoping that was a factor. Going to redo that game today or tomorrow, the other one I was perfect with timing.

Today my plan is to finish reviewing LR and then finish the last 20 questions.. I'm hoping that this past weekend including Friday of doing nothing but reviewing strengthen questions will have a positive factor in these last 20 questions.

[calmike]

How fast should I complete the LSAT trainer to be able to read the Powerscore or Manhattan LSAT books and then still have time to do as many PTS as possible?

[hinton2014]

Took a Kaplan course two years ago during my sophomore year of undergrad. Diagnostic was a dismal 149, can't remember what my new score after the course was. Not sure if I would recommend taking the Kaplan course again. Does anyone have any experience with other prep companies like Powerscore or Princeton Review? I'm going to be studying all summer and was looking for suggestions/reviews.

Save your money and self study. There's tons of books, videos, and materials that you can use along with the help of people on here! I contemplated on taking a course but instead went the self study route and don't regret it.

Yea I still have my work books from the Kaplan course and I bought the Powerscore Logic Games bible (that's the section I did most poorly on in the diagnostic) and it seems to be really helpful so far... The one thing I like about the live courses though is they hold you more accountable and keep you on a schedule. Also is anyone in this group planning on applying in fall '17?

The accountability factor is definitely a big one. I thought long and hard about it, but realized that if I can't hold myself accountable to my own future, it probably isn't something I should be pursuing. The courses can still be a good kick start but I wanted to do it on my own, and it has made the self studying way more productive because I have a desire to keep up with it and I constantly strive to do better.

And onto the second question - I plan on applying in the fall of '16 in order to attend in 2017 I think that's what you meant at least?

That's a good point. And yes, that's what I meant haha.

Despite what everyone has suggested, I still registered for the Kaplan course. I feel like even though it may not be as helpful as others have said, I think I'd regret not taking the course if I end up getting a bad score haha.

+1 on applying Fall '16, I'd assume everyone on here is on the same boat applying Fall '16 to be enrolled Fall '17.

Applying Fall 17' to be enrolled Fall 18'... Lol

[twiix]

Just want to drop in and bitch for a few seconds.. I've gotten absolutely nothing accomplished this week. Cheers to working 12+ hour days and having commitments outside of studying -.-