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WeightliftingThinker

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Sufficiency and Necessity in Conditional Statements

Post by WeightliftingThinker » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:49 am

Is the sufficient condition always after the "If" and the necessary condition always after the "then?"

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Re: Sufficiency and Necessity in Conditional Statements

Post by ponderingmeerkat » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:44 pm

WeightliftingThinker wrote:Is the sufficient condition always after the "If" and the necessary condition always after the "then?"
If a statement is formatted in the "if-then" format, then the "if" phrase denotes the sufficient condition and the "then" phrase denotes the necessary condition. (See what I did there...)

You will never see "if" denote a necessary condition because, by definition, necessary conditions MUST happen if the sufficient condition is met (see again, what I did there...)

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Re: Sufficiency and Necessity in Conditional Statements

Post by Phil Brooks » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:04 pm

ponderingmeerkat wrote:
WeightliftingThinker wrote:Is the sufficient condition always after the "If" and the necessary condition always after the "then?"
If a statement is formatted in the "if-then" format, then the "if" phrase denotes the sufficient condition and the "then" phrase denotes the necessary condition. (See what I did there...)

You will never see "if" denote a necessary condition because, by definition, necessary conditions MUST happen if the sufficient condition is met (see again, what I did there...)
This is wrong. "Only if" precedes a necessary condition.

Stop thinking formulaically and looking for magic words like "if". That is a recipe for falling for the tricks the test-writers will put on there. Instead, remember the conceptual distinction: a necessary condition is something that MUST happen (so anything denoting necessity--"only if", "must", "had to", "provided that", "on the condition that" etc.), while a sufficient condition is something that, if known, automatically tells you something else ("All boys are tall", "if x then y", "once you go here, I will go there", etc.).

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Re: Sufficiency and Necessity in Conditional Statements

Post by ponderingmeerkat » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:22 am

Phil Brooks wrote:
ponderingmeerkat wrote:
WeightliftingThinker wrote:Is the sufficient condition always after the "If" and the necessary condition always after the "then?"
If a statement is formatted in the "if-then" format, then the "if" phrase denotes the sufficient condition and the "then" phrase denotes the necessary condition. (See what I did there...)

You will never see "if" denote a necessary condition because, by definition, necessary conditions MUST happen if the sufficient condition is met (see again, what I did there...)
This is wrong. "Only if" precedes a necessary condition.

Stop thinking formulaically and looking for magic words like "if". That is a recipe for falling for the tricks the test-writers will put on there. Instead, remember the conceptual distinction: a necessary condition is something that MUST happen (so anything denoting necessity--"only if", "must", "had to", "provided that", "on the condition that" etc.), while a sufficient condition is something that, if known, automatically tells you something else ("All boys are tall", "if x then y", "once you go here, I will go there", etc.).
Good feedback. "Only if" denotes a necessary condition. "If" denotes a sufficient condition.

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