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Re: Struggling with LG, doing well on other sections
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Re: Struggling with LG, doing well on other sections
I'm back, and with good news!
I'm going nearly perfect now (sometimes I will not finish within 35 minutes, but only by a couple of minutes), and I almost always get 100%.
Hah, I think by the February sitting this might become my favourite section. I'm not sure how much of my improvement has come from myself though and how much from possibly easier games (including the possibility that they all seem perhaps more similar than the games in older PT's)? I'm on the PT 50 section and I'm finding them a lot easier than the older ones I was doing, but I suppose I also had a lot of trouble on the later ones I had earlier tried (although I hadn't attempted a lot of them).
The biggest reasons for my improvement that I can think of, are:
Going very slow while learning (one of the BIGGEST THINGS along with longer time spent on set up), even if you're going way beyond how long the game would ideally take you on the real test. Previously I would get frustrated if I would eclipse my self imposed "real test condition" time limits, and I would just speed up, not making inferences, and essentially not learning much if anything. I stupidly figured that if I could not finish it within this time limit, that I had to speed up, because clearly this would not work on the test. I basically did this for nearly 3 months, and now in a week or two I've made far more progress than I previously have.
Previously I was spending maybe 20% of my time on the set up, now I spend almost all of my time on the set up (at least 50% probably, it seems like often much more than that).
I've swapped a lot of my PS Bible techniques for 7Sage techniques, and I watch his videos even on the games I did well (I'm now watching them in their entirety!).
I try to do almost everything like 7Sage does.
Writing the rules one by one, underneath each other, and not side by side really helps.
The idea of "invalidating" rules is also useful I find. It helps to go from rule to rule knowing you've cleared one out, rather than looking around the page in a panic, going from rule to rule not really in a systematic way.
I like 7Sage's line system and not the greater, smaller than symbol for sequencing.
I have no problems now setting up gameboards, but inferences are still somewhat of a problem, and so is the way that I answer questions sometimes (efficiency wise, I'm not always sure what is the most efficient route is. For example, do I go through the answer choices looking for the obviously correct answer, only somewhat processing the other answer choices (this seems to be the best so far), and then thoroughly going through them if no obviously correct answer choice is found, or do I first thoroughly eliminate incorrect answer choices?) I'm referring to questions where you can't instantly go through and eliminate incorrect answer choices, but are required to spend time drawing hypotheticals. Maybe someone can provide more advice on this?
Anyway, I feel like the past 3 months have been a very inefficient use of time, as I've hardly spent any time on the other sections, and really have not learned much overall, but I'm finally at a comfortable place I think.
I can now at least answer all of the questions if given enough time (and not more than a few minutes over 35 min). Previously that was either impossible or would literally take a bunch of trial and error (not even hypothetical approach).
Thanks for all your advice guys, it was VERY helpful.
I'm going nearly perfect now (sometimes I will not finish within 35 minutes, but only by a couple of minutes), and I almost always get 100%.
Hah, I think by the February sitting this might become my favourite section. I'm not sure how much of my improvement has come from myself though and how much from possibly easier games (including the possibility that they all seem perhaps more similar than the games in older PT's)? I'm on the PT 50 section and I'm finding them a lot easier than the older ones I was doing, but I suppose I also had a lot of trouble on the later ones I had earlier tried (although I hadn't attempted a lot of them).
The biggest reasons for my improvement that I can think of, are:
Going very slow while learning (one of the BIGGEST THINGS along with longer time spent on set up), even if you're going way beyond how long the game would ideally take you on the real test. Previously I would get frustrated if I would eclipse my self imposed "real test condition" time limits, and I would just speed up, not making inferences, and essentially not learning much if anything. I stupidly figured that if I could not finish it within this time limit, that I had to speed up, because clearly this would not work on the test. I basically did this for nearly 3 months, and now in a week or two I've made far more progress than I previously have.
Previously I was spending maybe 20% of my time on the set up, now I spend almost all of my time on the set up (at least 50% probably, it seems like often much more than that).
I've swapped a lot of my PS Bible techniques for 7Sage techniques, and I watch his videos even on the games I did well (I'm now watching them in their entirety!).
I try to do almost everything like 7Sage does.
Writing the rules one by one, underneath each other, and not side by side really helps.
The idea of "invalidating" rules is also useful I find. It helps to go from rule to rule knowing you've cleared one out, rather than looking around the page in a panic, going from rule to rule not really in a systematic way.
I like 7Sage's line system and not the greater, smaller than symbol for sequencing.
I have no problems now setting up gameboards, but inferences are still somewhat of a problem, and so is the way that I answer questions sometimes (efficiency wise, I'm not always sure what is the most efficient route is. For example, do I go through the answer choices looking for the obviously correct answer, only somewhat processing the other answer choices (this seems to be the best so far), and then thoroughly going through them if no obviously correct answer choice is found, or do I first thoroughly eliminate incorrect answer choices?) I'm referring to questions where you can't instantly go through and eliminate incorrect answer choices, but are required to spend time drawing hypotheticals. Maybe someone can provide more advice on this?
Anyway, I feel like the past 3 months have been a very inefficient use of time, as I've hardly spent any time on the other sections, and really have not learned much overall, but I'm finally at a comfortable place I think.
I can now at least answer all of the questions if given enough time (and not more than a few minutes over 35 min). Previously that was either impossible or would literally take a bunch of trial and error (not even hypothetical approach).
Thanks for all your advice guys, it was VERY helpful.
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