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LSAT Formulation

Post by LeVara2575 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:24 am

In efforts to seek a greater understanding of how the LSAT is formulated. I understand there's an unpredictable experiment section in each test form, and generally speaking, each test form can have a variance in how the sections appear, (Test taker A, could have 2, LR sections, 2 LG sections and 1 RC, while test taker B, has 2 RC, 1 LG and 2 LR). However, I am assuming, the overall content is the same (questions and answer choices)? Is this assumption correct or incorrect?

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by Rigo » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:14 am

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by LeVara2575 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:36 pm

...and test content is the same for each calendar year ? For example: Test content is the same for June 2010, Oct 2010 and Dec 2010 testing cycle? Content changes ever year. Is that correct?

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by Rigo » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:38 pm

huh? What do you mean

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by cbbinnyc » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:44 pm

LeVara2575 wrote:...and test content is the same for each calendar year ? For example: Test content is the same for June 2010, Oct 2010 and Dec 2010 testing cycle? Content changes ever year. Is that correct?
If I understand you correctly, the answer is 'no'. Each administration has a completely different test. And, I believe, a different version of the test is administered internationally.

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by Rigo » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:47 pm

Don't try to figure out the experimental. Treat each section like it's scored.

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by LeVara2575 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:16 pm

I guess I am confused then:
There are 4 scored sections and one experimental section
Of the 4 scored sections, there are 2 Logic Reasoning, 1 Reading Comp and 1 Logic Games.
The experimental section can be one of the above mentioned sections, but is not scored.

Each test taker will have various administrations of the test form, however the overall content is the same (questions and answer choices) thats why its forbidden to share or distributed any test content, for that very reason.

The "core" test content is the same for each cycle in each calendar year. Meaning, the core content is the same for all testing cycles, however theres a variation of how its administered.

What is incorrect about the understanding of this LSAT formulation?

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by LeVara2575 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:17 pm

Rigo wrote:Don't try to figure out the experimental. Treat each section like it's scored.
Nice assumption, but as mentioned in the original post, I am looking to understand the testing formulation and how its administered across the board.

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by Rigo » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:34 pm

What do you mean by core content?
Each LR section is going to have weaken, NA, SA, etc. no matter if it's June, Sept/Oct, December, or February. Those questions aren't going to be the same though. You wouldn't see the same question ever. You will see the same types of questions, however. I take it that's what you mean by "core content."

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Post by cbbinnyc » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:52 pm

It seems like you've got it right, though I'm not sure what you mean by "cycle". The test evolves slightly over time (certain game types can go in and out of style or, for example, several years ago they added a double-passage in RC) but I don't think that "cycles" or calendar years have anything to do with test content.

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by LeVara2575 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:54 pm

Rigo wrote:What do you mean by core content?
Each LR section is going to have weaken, NA, SA, etc. no matter if it's June, Sept/Oct, December, or February. Those questions aren't going to be the same though. You wouldn't see the same question ever. You will see the same types of questions, however. I take it that's what you mean by "core content."
Yes, I understand that.

What I mean by "core" content is, the questions and answer choices. Are they the same each calendar year? or do they vary from cycle to cycle or year to year?

It just doesnt make sense to me if the LSAT is administered differently with different questions/answer choices, every year and every cycle, why is it forbidden for content to be leaked? I assume, the questions and answer choices are the same each calendar year, and the same each cycle. The core content meaning, there will be 2 LR sections, 1 RC and 1 LG, and every test taker will have the same questions in each designated section. Is that clear what I am asking?

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by LeVara2575 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:56 pm

cbbinnyc wrote:It seems like you've got it right, though I'm not sure what you mean by "cycle". The test evolves slightly over time (certain game types can go in and out of style or, for example, several years ago they added a double-passage in RC) but I don't think that "cycles" or calendar years have anything to do with test content.
When I reference "cycle" I mean -- Feb, June, Oct and Dec

When I reference calendar year I mean --
Feb 2010, June 2010, Oct 2010 and Dec 2010
Feb 2011, June 2011, Oct 2011 and Dec 2011

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by Rigo » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:58 pm

Calendar year is irrelevant.

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by Rigo » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:59 pm

LeVara2575 wrote:I assume, the questions and answer choices are the same each calendar year, and the same each cycle.
No. Each administration has all new questions and answers.

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by LeVara2575 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:59 pm

Rigo wrote:Calendar year is irrelevant.
Ok, so explain, why is it irrelevant ?

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by justakicker » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:02 pm

LeVara2575 wrote:I guess I am confused then:
There are 4 scored sections and one experimental section
Of the 4 scored sections, there are 2 Logic Reasoning, 1 Reading Comp and 1 Logic Games.
The experimental section can be one of the above mentioned sections, but is not scored.

Each test taker will have various administrations of the test form, however the overall content is the same (questions and answer choices) thats why its forbidden to share or distributed any test content, for that very reason.

The "core" test content is the same for each cycle in each calendar year. Meaning, the core content is the same for all testing cycles, however theres a variation of how its administered.

What is incorrect about the understanding of this LSAT formulation?
The questions from February are completely different from the questions from June which are completely different from the questions in September/October. They are three completely different tests.

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Re: LSAT Formulation

Post by Rigo » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:08 pm

LeVara2575 wrote:
Rigo wrote:Calendar year is irrelevant.
Ok, so explain, why is it irrelevant ?
Law school admissions operates on a cycle schedule, starting with the June test through the February test. Even that doesn't matter in regards to your question though because the tests in a given cycle don't have the same questions or answer choices.

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Post by ihenry » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:14 pm

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