The Official June 2016 Study Group Forum

[20170322]

PT results:

PT 62, December 2010:
RC: -6
LR1: -2
LG: -2
LR2: -2

Total: -12
Raw Score: 90
Scaled Score: 172


This curve was hella generous, but I'm still pleased with the results, sans RC. Need to get that down to at least -3 if I'm not going to retake.

[abcdefg1234567]

I'd like to hop onto this thread

Took in December but am retaking following everyone's advice. 3.61 LSDAS GPA and averaging 164 after 14 PT's.

Trying hard to get my LR down to -4 to -6 total. LG is pretty consistent at -0 -1, and I'm working on getting RC down from -7 average.

Side note...

I took a PT last Saturday and today following some, well, quality time at my local bar. 170 and 171 respectively...6-7 point increase??
I think I've uncovered the real secret to the LSAT, and it comes in a pint glass....

Has this happened to anyone else!?

[ayylmao]

I'd like to hop onto this thread

Took in December but am retaking following everyone's advice. 3.61 LSDAS GPA and averaging 164 after 14 PT's.

Trying hard to get my LR down to -4 to -6 total. LG is pretty consistent at -0 -1, and I'm working on getting RC down from -7 average.

Side note...

I took a PT last Saturday and today following some, well, quality time at my local bar. 170 and 171 respectively...6-7 point increase??
I think I've uncovered the real secret to the LSAT, and it comes in a pint glass....

Has this happened to anyone else!?

Maybe you were just more relaxed.

[mukol]

.

[carasrook]

I've been super discouraged with my PT scores lately, so I've been lacking in posts... I think the problem is I went from taking really old tests to jumping forward to really new tests. I hope I can adjust quickly - also I saw a ten point jump from PT and blind review....which is very frustrating... but also good to see I'm not missing out on the fundamentals.

Hope everyone's prep is progressing well!

[Mikey]

I've been super discouraged with my PT scores lately, so I've been lacking in posts... I think the problem is I went from taking really old tests to jumping forward to really new tests. I hope I can adjust quickly - also I saw a ten point jump from PT and blind review....which is very frustrating... but also good to see I'm not missing out on the fundamentals.

Hope everyone's prep is progressing well!

I think you'll adjust. I'm slowly but surely seeing some LR improvement, LG is pretty good unless I see a game that's circular or a pattern game, etc. RC is just a complete mess for me, I insanely fluctuate in RC but I'm hoping I can get it down soon!

[mukol]

.

[carasrook]

I've been super discouraged with my PT scores lately, so I've been lacking in posts... I think the problem is I went from taking really old tests to jumping forward to really new tests. I hope I can adjust quickly - also I saw a ten point jump from PT and blind review....which is very frustrating... but also good to see I'm not missing out on the fundamentals.

Hope everyone's prep is progressing well!

I think you'll adjust. I'm slowly but surely seeing some LR improvement, LG is pretty good unless I see a game that's circular or a pattern game, etc. RC is just a complete mess for me, I insanely fluctuate in RC but I'm hoping I can get it down soon!

Ugh same - like for example, I went -7 in RC and then when I BRed I went -1... I think it's a problem of focusing on the passages

[mukol]

.

[ayylmao]

Finally got some exercise today at am doing better with logic games. Coincidence? Probably.

[YupSports]

Hopping back in this thread after a self-imposed 3 day ban from all things LSAT.

Drilling a few RC and taking PT 66 Wednesday.

[appind]

did pt-16 over the weekend.

lg -4
lr1 -0
lr2 -2
rc-0

177

took too long on g3 (about 5 mins over the 7sage target time) and couldn't get to the last 3 q in lg. One lr mistake was unnecessary as i had marked it and then didn't go back to the q. got it right away when reviewing. RC was definitely easier than new rc, but finished close to the time buzzer.
i completed the test by taking sections individually under timed test conditions and not in one go, so not fully representative.

[dodint]

I'm still around. Actually just put my $175 down for the exam so that should help keep me motivated. With the time dwindling down and resources getting tight I'm going to jump ahead to some of the newer exams. I've been doing the LG sections out of the older exams from the early 90s but I'm going to shift to using materials past PT-50 after reading the thread. If I really get hard up for material after having gone through everything from PT50 on I'm sure I'll ace the test anyway.

[20170322]

PT 69

Raw Score: -10
Scaled Score: 171

LR: -1
LG: -5 (woof)
RC: -2
LR2: -2


Pretty pleased with the result, especially in terms of RC, but pissed that I could've gotten a 176 if I hadn't messed up logic games. Ran out of time, had to guess on 2 of the questions. It seems like every time I put out a fire in one section (RC), a fire starts in another (LG).

[Mikey]

PT 69

Raw Score: -10
Scaled Score: 171

LR: -1
LG: -5 (woof)
RC: -2
LR2: -2


Pretty pleased with the result, especially in terms of RC, but pissed that I could've gotten a 176 if I hadn't messed up logic games. Ran out of time, had to guess on 2 of the questions. It seems like every time I put out a fire in one section (RC), a fire starts in another (LG).

Nice LR

[20170322]

PT 69

Raw Score: -10
Scaled Score: 171

LR: -1
LG: -5 (woof)
RC: -2
LR2: -2


Pretty pleased with the result, especially in terms of RC, but pissed that I could've gotten a 176 if I hadn't messed up logic games. Ran out of time, had to guess on 2 of the questions. It seems like every time I put out a fire in one section (RC), a fire starts in another (LG).

Nice LR

Haha, 8 years of debate experience will do that. Now, I wish I had done more Sudoko's for the past 8 years instead to fix LG

[20170322]

PT 69

Raw Score: -10
Scaled Score: 171

LR: -1
LG: -5 (woof)
RC: -2
LR2: -2


Pretty pleased with the result, especially in terms of RC, but pissed that I could've gotten a 176 if I hadn't messed up logic games. Ran out of time, had to guess on 2 of the questions. It seems like every time I put out a fire in one section (RC), a fire starts in another (LG).

Nice LR

Haha, 8 years of debate experience will do that. Now, I wish I had done more Sudoko's for the past 8 years instead to fix LG

WOW. Just looked at the specific questions I missed. All 5 missed LG questions were from the EXACT SAME GAME. Wow. Haven't landed on my face that hard since I first started studying.

[appind]

PT 69

Raw Score: -10
Scaled Score: 171

LR: -1
LG: -5 (woof)
RC: -2
LR2: -2


Pretty pleased with the result, especially in terms of RC, but pissed that I could've gotten a 176 if I hadn't messed up logic games. Ran out of time, had to guess on 2 of the questions. It seems like every time I put out a fire in one section (RC), a fire starts in another (LG).

Lg is very improvable so it's a good sign if you're missing most on it.

[R. Jeeves]

PT 69

Raw Score: -10
Scaled Score: 171

LR: -1
LG: -5 (woof)
RC: -2
LR2: -2


Pretty pleased with the result, especially in terms of RC, but pissed that I could've gotten a 176 if I hadn't messed up logic games. Ran out of time, had to guess on 2 of the questions. It seems like every time I put out a fire in one section (RC), a fire starts in another (LG).

Nice LR

Haha, 8 years of debate experience will do that. Now, I wish I had done more Sudoko's for the past 8 years instead to fix LG

WOW. Just looked at the specific questions I missed. All 5 missed LG questions were from the EXACT SAME GAME. Wow. Haven't landed on my face that hard since I first started studying.

This is probably better than having your 5 wrong answers spread out over all four games; im guessing you just missed or made a mistaken inference on that one game?

[dietcoke1]

Been scoring pretty high lately through PT 58. I know this has been covered but couldn't seem to find it. At what point are the PTs considered modern? 2010? 2012?

[Mikey]

PT 69

Raw Score: -10
Scaled Score: 171

LR: -1
LG: -5 (woof)
RC: -2
LR2: -2


Pretty pleased with the result, especially in terms of RC, but pissed that I could've gotten a 176 if I hadn't messed up logic games. Ran out of time, had to guess on 2 of the questions. It seems like every time I put out a fire in one section (RC), a fire starts in another (LG).

Nice LR

Haha, 8 years of debate experience will do that. Now, I wish I had done more Sudoko's for the past 8 years instead to fix LG

Haha that's good. I'm still in undergrad and I've spoken to a few people who say to take a modern logic class under the philosophy department. Honestly, I've thought about it but meh, I'd rather learn the LSAT through the LSAT itself and not external factors, even though SOME stuff from the class may be helpful.

[CPAlawHopefu]

Been scoring pretty high lately through PT 58. I know this has been covered but couldn't seem to find it. At what point are the PTs considered modern? 2010? 2012?

Theoretically, PT1 is when the LSAT became "modern".

PT52 is when comparative reading came in, and has not changed since.

I would warn you though, LSAT becomes much more "creative" with the tricks starting mid-60's in all aspects. I was scoring in 171-175 range up until PT 64 but ever since PT 65 my score range sunk to 168-171 range. RC especially becomes denser with challenging Q's. LG isn't that bad but it becomes much more inference-driven (rather than rule-driven). LSAC puts some nasty twist to LR that will keep you on your toes.

[Mikey]

Sigh, had my LR down to -1 to -3 and now I'm back at -5 to -7. Time to put more effort into RC and then come back to LR!

[20170322]

Sigh, had my LR down to -1 to -3 and now I'm back at -5 to -7. Time to put more effort into RC and then come back to LR!

Be careful not to overthink it. Sometimes when I'm getting bogged down, I have to step back and ask "What are they claiming, and why?" Seems dumb, but often helpful.

[R. Jeeves]

Been scoring pretty high lately through PT 58. I know this has been covered but couldn't seem to find it. At what point are the PTs considered modern? 2010? 2012?

Theoretically, PT1 is when the LSAT became "modern".

PT52 is when comparative reading came in, and has not changed since.

I would warn you though, LSAT becomes much more "creative" with the tricks starting mid-60's in all aspects. I was scoring in 171-175 range up until PT 64 but ever since PT 65 my score range sunk to 168-171 range. RC especially becomes denser with challenging Q's. LG isn't that bad but it becomes much more inference-driven (rather than rule-driven). LSAC puts some nasty twist to LR that will keep you on your toes.

yeah i think somewhere between the low to mid 60s is where the switch gets flipped